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if he had a NEED to heal the blind there would be no blind people. "Tribo" don't you mean God hasn't a need to heal amputees...because he doesn't you said that you have no need for your sight ...everyone know that is a lie |
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God created us with Free Will... when we discovered sin we found the difficulties of sinfulness... covetousness and emptiness...want and need. We are always looking for something else, something new, something better because we can't really find anything imperfect that fills the God-shaped void in us. Want and need is limited to finite man..... God is WAYYY Higher Than Our Finite Ways.. God is a God of LOVE.... The Highest Love of All. With that kind of Love , God has No Wants or Needs... God Just IS. Love Just IS. While we were yet in our sins, God Loved Us.... with an Unconditional Love... with an Everlasting Love. .......  Love Without End........
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Sorry. But you are still making assumptions which you have no evidence of. Now I think you're just making things up....  no evidence? .."ljcc" ..is the bible full of assumption because according to the bible it took God "six days" to create the universe and "forty days" to drown all life on Earth except what was on Noah's ark ...and Jesus as God had human characteristics ..which mean this non-human entity called God clearly became human and therefore human factors can be applied to him .. don't they teach this stuff in sunday school anymore So are you telling me that even though you told tribo he could not "run to the bible" earlier...that now it is OK for you to do that very thing? Whether the Bible is full of assumptions or not has no bearing on the issue being discussed. You are claiming to have God figured out....a very egotistical and prideful thing indeed. And yet you can produce no evidence whatsoever in that regard. I'm still waiting..... |
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tribo
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if he had a NEED to heal the blind there would be no blind people. "Tribo" don't you mean God hasn't a need to heal amputees...because he doesn't you said that you have no need for your sight ...everyone know that is a lie tell that to those blind from birth, how bout helen keller - jose feliciano, stevie wonder etc.. i'm sure they would like to see - but it is not a need. |
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God CREATED with a PLAN and PURPOSE . When you create something Funch, do you create aimlessly....with no purpose in mind, or do you create with a plan and purpose in mind.... With NO Plan or Purpose, there would ONLY be CHAOS...NO ORDER in the Universe.... But since the Universe has ORDER, God Obviously Knows what He is doing.... God has PLAN and PURPOSE in Mind in All that He does....Including His Creation. "MorningSong" of course God's plan and purpose came as instructions for his creations but that still doesn't explain his need to create these creations |
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God CREATED with a PLAN and PURPOSE . When you create something Funch, do you create aimlessly....with no purpose in mind, or do you create with a plan and purpose in mind.... With NO Plan or Purpose, there would ONLY be CHAOS...NO ORDER in the Universe.... But since the Universe has ORDER, God Obviously Knows what He is doing.... God has PLAN and PURPOSE in Mind in All that He does....Including His Creation. "MorningSong" of course God's plan and purpose came as instructions for his creations but that still doesn't explain his need to create these creations What need? |
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Maybe because God is so good that they wanted all creation to share in their glory.  Quikstepper ...remember nothing was created before God had the need to create it which means there was nothing that existed to share it with but God himself So what? God can do whatever He wants & if He chooses to create so be it. Right? God lives & has His being in all of creation. We are His prized possessions...His children. "Quikstepper" if a God lacks for nothing then why does God need prized possessions |
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Maybe because God is so good that they wanted all creation to share in their glory. Quikstepper ...remember nothing was created before God had the need to create it which means there was nothing that existed to share it with but God himself So what? God can do whatever He wants & if He chooses to create so be it. Right? God lives & has His being in all of creation. We are His prized possessions...His children. "Quikstepper" if a God lacks for nothing then why does God need prized possessions What need? |
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Need is a man thing.....God created out of Love.....He created us in his image just for that...love
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So are you telling me that even though you told tribo he could not "run to the bible" earlier...that now it is OK for you to do that very thing? Whether the Bible is full of assumptions or not has no bearing on the issue being discussed. You are claiming to have God figured out....a very egotistical and prideful thing indeed. And yet you can produce no evidence whatsoever in that regard. I'm still waiting..... "ljcc" .."Tribo" asked me where in the bible does it say that God has needs and I told that they bible doesn't supply the answer to everything that he couldn't use the parrot this time to talk for him and you said that I couldn't apply human characteristics to a non-human entity and I explain how the bible states differently when God allowed himself to become Jesus a human |
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So are you telling me that even though you told tribo he could not "run to the bible" earlier...that now it is OK for you to do that very thing? Whether the Bible is full of assumptions or not has no bearing on the issue being discussed. You are claiming to have God figured out....a very egotistical and prideful thing indeed. And yet you can produce no evidence whatsoever in that regard. I'm still waiting..... "ljcc" .."Tribo" asked me where in the bible does it say that God has needs and I told that they bible doesn't supply the answer to everything that he couldn't use the parrot this time to talk for him and you said that I couldn't apply human characteristics to a non-human entity and I explain how the bible states differently when God allowed himself to become Jesus a human Sorry. Still doesn't prove the existence of any need to be explained. |
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if he had a NEED to heal the blind there would be no blind people. "Tribo" don't you mean God hasn't a need to heal amputees...because he doesn't you said that you have no need for your sight ...everyone know that is a lie tell that to those blind from birth, how bout helen keller - jose feliciano, stevie wonder etc.. i'm sure they would like to see - but it is not a need. "Tribo" you clearly said that you yourself didn't need your sight ..which is clearly a lie ... |
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God CREATED with a PLAN and PURPOSE . When you create something Funch, do you create aimlessly....with no purpose in mind, or do you create with a plan and purpose in mind.... With NO Plan or Purpose, there would ONLY be CHAOS...NO ORDER in the Universe.... But since the Universe has ORDER, God Obviously Knows what He is doing.... God has PLAN and PURPOSE in Mind in All that He does....Including His Creation. "MorningSong" of course God's plan and purpose came as instructions for his creations but that still doesn't explain his need to create these creations What need? "ljcc"...the need to create |
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God CREATED with a PLAN and PURPOSE . When you create something Funch, do you create aimlessly....with no purpose in mind, or do you create with a plan and purpose in mind.... With NO Plan or Purpose, there would ONLY be CHAOS...NO ORDER in the Universe.... But since the Universe has ORDER, God Obviously Knows what He is doing.... God has PLAN and PURPOSE in Mind in All that He does....Including His Creation. "MorningSong" of course God's plan and purpose came as instructions for his creations but that still doesn't explain his need to create these creations What need? "ljcc"...the need to create Yeah...I know...the need you can't prove exists. Bored now....have fun with your circular logic. I enjoyed this thread!....well...up until now. Hope you see you all later in threadsville!! |
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Need is a man thing.....God created out of Love.....He created us in his image just for that...love "feralcatlady" that's why he drown everyone but Noah and crew and said that he made a mistake when he created Man ...is this what you refer to as Love ...imagine if people showed this type of love to their children also since God is supposely everything the only love he was showing was to himself...which still doesn't explain why he had a need to do so |
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if he had a NEED to heal the blind there would be no blind people. "Tribo" don't you mean God hasn't a need to heal amputees...because he doesn't you said that you have no need for your sight ...everyone know that is a lie tell that to those blind from birth, how bout helen keller - jose feliciano, stevie wonder etc.. i'm sure they would like to see - but it is not a need. "Tribo" you clearly said that you yourself didn't need your sight ..which is clearly a lie ... to survive or be happy or just live? no, i dont NEED my sight!! I like having my sight a whole lot!! but i dont need it. |
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So are you telling me that even though you told tribo he could not "run to the bible" earlier...that now it is OK for you to do that very thing? Whether the Bible is full of assumptions or not has no bearing on the issue being discussed. You are claiming to have God figured out....a very egotistical and prideful thing indeed. And yet you can produce no evidence whatsoever in that regard. I'm still waiting..... "ljcc" .."Tribo" asked me where in the bible does it say that God has needs and I told that they bible doesn't supply the answer to everything that he couldn't use the parrot this time to talk for him and you said that I couldn't apply human characteristics to a non-human entity and I explain how the bible states differently when God allowed himself to become Jesus a human Sorry. Still doesn't prove the existence of any need to be explained. "ljcc" ..the bible doesn't prove the existence of God ..but I didn't let that little detail get in the way ...like I stated.. creation requires need and it applies to Jesus and therefore applies to God |
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if he had a NEED to heal the blind there would be no blind people. "Tribo" don't you mean God hasn't a need to heal amputees...because he doesn't you said that you have no need for your sight ...everyone know that is a lie tell that to those blind from birth, how bout helen keller - jose feliciano, stevie wonder etc.. i'm sure they would like to see - but it is not a need. "Tribo" you clearly said that you yourself didn't need your sight ..which is clearly a lie ... to survive or be happy or just live? no, i dont NEED my sight!! I like having my sight a whole lot!! but i dont need it. "Tribo" that you like having your sight "a whole lot" contradicts what you are saying ...place you in a jungle situation and your tune would change ...your lieing to no one but yourself ... |
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if he had a NEED to heal the blind there would be no blind people. "Tribo" don't you mean God hasn't a need to heal amputees...because he doesn't you said that you have no need for your sight ...everyone know that is a lie tell that to those blind from birth, how bout helen keller - jose feliciano, stevie wonder etc.. i'm sure they would like to see - but it is not a need. "Tribo" you clearly said that you yourself didn't need your sight ..which is clearly a lie ... to survive or be happy or just live? no, i dont NEED my sight!! I like having my sight a whole lot!! but i dont need it. "Tribo" that you like having your sight "a whole lot" contradicts what you are saying ...place you in a jungle situation and your tune would change ...your lieing to no one but yourself ... >shake's head back and forth, leaves as usual - have fun funch. there are better thing to talk of. |
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if he had a NEED to heal the blind there would be no blind people. "Tribo" don't you mean God hasn't a need to heal amputees...because he doesn't you said that you have no need for your sight ...everyone know that is a lie tell that to those blind from birth, how bout helen keller - jose feliciano, stevie wonder etc.. i'm sure they would like to see - but it is not a need. "Tribo" you clearly said that you yourself didn't need your sight ..which is clearly a lie ... to survive or be happy or just live? no, i dont NEED my sight!! I like having my sight a whole lot!! but i dont need it. "Tribo" that you like having your sight "a whole lot" contradicts what you are saying ...place you in a jungle situation and your tune would change ...your lieing to no one but yourself ... >shake's head back and forth, leaves as usual - have fun funch. there are better thing to talk of. and you also have better things to see ..so "Tribo" be thankful for your eyesight and not dismiss it as something you don't need |
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