Topic: As an agnositc/atheist, how do you deal with...
Wrenches's photo
Wed 12/17/08 12:57 AM


and I always find it useful to bring up how
their loving sensitive personal god
delights in little children starving to death

what helps is when you can show 'em pictures.

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Fri 12/19/08 08:23 PM
Now, the bothersome door-knocking habit of missionaries is not that common in my whereabouts, but that does not mean you will not get your fair share of threshold-to-threshold ministry. The only time when I did get what seemed like an alien invasion was when I was staying at a friend's house in New Jersey. I would be lying if I wanted to tell you with strict precision which church they belonged to, but they did have an excellent sense of the opportunity and approached me when I was to walk my friend's dog in the morning or early evening. When intercepted, I tried hard to be polite and defer the encounter for later, the usual word I resorted to being "tomorrow". Such term bore literal interpretation value to them, so the next day I was once again questioned about my beliefs and deeds (the latter being far more interesting than the former).

Perhaps you will not be surprised if I disclosed my feeling of anxiety every time my friend's cute puppy made for the kitchen to fetch the leash. I did not take their intervention in my affairs as a game of wits or a personal offense; to me, it was just another waste of time and energy caused by wrong assumptions as regards the universe and its tenants. Intellectual sloth, at its best; intellectual irresponsibility, if bad comes to worse.

They say human beings are capable of a certain reasoning process called abduction. I did not know whether the answer I came up with to disrupt my adversaries' assets (infinite patience, endless resilience and imperviousness to rudeness -not that I tried to test this last one-) was ethically adequate, but my meager brains were not in a position to snatch a more promising option than prejudice. I had long suspected that conversion was the aim of each and every group of door-bangers, and that the capture of a non-believer's flag would be the ultimate prize. My advice to those of you still striving to be left alone is NEVER to reveal you are either atheists or agnostics. Such blunder would amount to exposing a juicy flank to their guns. Instead, I opted for an easy way out, however vile, however tricky. I just said I was Jewish (I am not, in fact). After seeing an undecipherable look (maybe a bit of a glare) mask their faces, and their faces become fast-disappearing backs under a wintry morning sun, I saw them no more. My ruse did not work just once, but twice, the second time in another country, another cultural environment, and definitely another religious denomination.

Jews are not indeed famous for proselytizing, but I wonder whether my stratagem would have succeeded the other way round.


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Mon 12/22/08 01:02 PM
Edited by kackygreen on Mon 12/22/08 01:03 PM
Same way I deal with door-to-door sales people and telemarketers... tell them "no thanks" and close the door, even if they continue to talk

Of course, if you want to have a little fun with it you could try selling them magazine subscriptions or answer the door wearing only a towel... but simple and to the point works best every time

Keep in mind, you're not going to change their beliefs any easier than they are going to change yours!

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Mon 12/29/08 08:29 AM
I have a stack of bibles and everytime I get a missionary to knock on my door I stand and smile as they try to sell their fairy tale stories to me.

As they talk I begin to light the bible slowly as it goes on fire. I love how they watch their holy book flame in pieces.

Then I say have a great day and don't forget to pray tonight for you might need it. laugh

No I don't do that. I am way to nice to do things like this, but it has crossed my mind at times.

but I have acted like a Italian man once not understanding English and speak some Italiano with them. They usually giggle and walk off.

sorry for my dry humor:smile:




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Tue 12/30/08 02:34 AM

Now, the bothersome door-knocking habit of missionaries is not that common in my whereabouts, but that does not mean you will not get your fair share of threshold-to-threshold ministry. The only time when I did get what seemed like an alien invasion was when I was staying at a friend's house in New Jersey. I would be lying if I wanted to tell you with strict precision which church they belonged to, but they did have an excellent sense of the opportunity and approached me when I was to walk my friend's dog in the morning or early evening. When intercepted, I tried hard to be polite and defer the encounter for later, the usual word I resorted to being "tomorrow". Such term bore literal interpretation value to them, so the next day I was once again questioned about my beliefs and deeds (the latter being far more interesting than the former).

Perhaps you will not be surprised if I disclosed my feeling of anxiety every time my friend's cute puppy made for the kitchen to fetch the leash. I did not take their intervention in my affairs as a game of wits or a personal offense; to me, it was just another waste of time and energy caused by wrong assumptions as regards the universe and its tenants. Intellectual sloth, at its best; intellectual irresponsibility, if bad comes to worse.

They say human beings are capable of a certain reasoning process called abduction. I did not know whether the answer I came up with to disrupt my adversaries' assets (infinite patience, endless resilience and imperviousness to rudeness -not that I tried to test this last one-) was ethically adequate, but my meager brains were not in a position to snatch a more promising option than prejudice. I had long suspected that conversion was the aim of each and every group of door-bangers, and that the capture of a non-believer's flag would be the ultimate prize. My advice to those of you still striving to be left alone is NEVER to reveal you are either atheists or agnostics. Such blunder would amount to exposing a juicy flank to their guns. Instead, I opted for an easy way out, however vile, however tricky. I just said I was Jewish (I am not, in fact). After seeing an undecipherable look (maybe a bit of a glare) mask their faces, and their faces become fast-disappearing backs under a wintry morning sun, I saw them no more. My ruse did not work just once, but twice, the second time in another country, another cultural environment, and definitely another religious denomination.

Jews are not indeed famous for proselytizing, but I wonder whether my stratagem would have succeeded the other way round.




Dont you ever out pretencious me again, ever.

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Sun 01/11/09 04:20 PM

Now, the bothersome door-knocking habit of missionaries is not that common in my whereabouts, but that does not mean you will not get your fair share of threshold-to-threshold ministry. The only time when I did get what seemed like an alien invasion was when I was staying at a friend's house in New Jersey. I would be lying if I wanted to tell you with strict precision which church they belonged to, but they did have an excellent sense of the opportunity and approached me when I was to walk my friend's dog in the morning or early evening. When intercepted, I tried hard to be polite and defer the encounter for later, the usual word I resorted to being "tomorrow". Such term bore literal interpretation value to them, so the next day I was once again questioned about my beliefs and deeds (the latter being far more interesting than the former).

Perhaps you will not be surprised if I disclosed my feeling of anxiety every time my friend's cute puppy made for the kitchen to fetch the leash. I did not take their intervention in my affairs as a game of wits or a personal offense; to me, it was just another waste of time and energy caused by wrong assumptions as regards the universe and its tenants. Intellectual sloth, at its best; intellectual irresponsibility, if bad comes to worse.

They say human beings are capable of a certain reasoning process called abduction. I did not know whether the answer I came up with to disrupt my adversaries' assets (infinite patience, endless resilience and imperviousness to rudeness -not that I tried to test this last one-) was ethically adequate, but my meager brains were not in a position to snatch a more promising option than prejudice. I had long suspected that conversion was the aim of each and every group of door-bangers, and that the capture of a non-believer's flag would be the ultimate prize. My advice to those of you still striving to be left alone is NEVER to reveal you are either atheists or agnostics. Such blunder would amount to exposing a juicy flank to their guns. Instead, I opted for an easy way out, however vile, however tricky. I just said I was Jewish (I am not, in fact). After seeing an undecipherable look (maybe a bit of a glare) mask their faces, and their faces become fast-disappearing backs under a wintry morning sun, I saw them no more. My ruse did not work just once, but twice, the second time in another country, another cultural environment, and definitely another religious denomination.

Jews are not indeed famous for proselytizing, but I wonder whether my stratagem would have succeeded the other way round.



I'm Jewish culturally but atheist, too.

Anyway, I can tell you that, in almost any part of the United States, your strategy would fall flat on its face if the hypothetical proselytizing Jews came knocking.

"You're Christian? Duh! We assumed that. Now, here's why you need to abandon the silly idea of the Messiah having already arrived..." sick

At least in my own limited experience.

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Mon 01/12/09 07:07 PM
I love to invite them in and question them until they let themselves out :]

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Fri 01/23/09 02:38 PM
I work grave yard shift at my job and I work every Sat night, so when I get home about 7:30 AM on Sunday, I like to crawl into bed and go to sleep. But for a while, almost every Sunday I had either a couple of Jahovah Witnesses or Mormons, and even a few well dressed Hispanic Missionary ladies knocking on my door trying to either convert me or just get me to attend their church on a trial basis.

Anywho, here's what I did about two months ago. Sunday morning, about 9 AM there's a knock on my front door. I answer the door in a bath robe, there are two young Jahovah Witnesses smiling. I politely invite them in, and have them sit in my living room. I ask them if I can get them anything, and so they started on with their speech or sales pitch or what have you... As I'm attentively listening to them, I slowly open the front of my robe, exposing my penis. Mind you, I'm sitting across the living room from them. And I'm seriously paying attention (or pretending to be anywho) to what they are saying. But slowly I start to touch myself and within a minute I'm fully stroking my penis. At this point, the two boys are in such shock, they are just motionless, jaws dropped, staring at me... I tell them, "oh, please go on, don't mind me... All this talk about salvation and eternal bliss is getting me real excited... Please, continue..." Within the next minute the two boys literally ran out of my house so fast that one of them even left his Bible behind.

I believe I somehow got black listed as I haven't had anyone, not even from any other church organizations bother me since. I've had peaceful rest and relaxing sleep for the last 7 Sundays and I hope it stays that way.


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Thu 01/29/09 02:50 PM
I give them a bit of my time and something to walk away thinking about. Last time they came to ask me if I thought global warming was a punishment from God. I spit a bunch of scientific theory and data at them. They looked awfully confused as they turned away.

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Mon 02/02/09 01:42 PM
lmao some of these things are hilarious. I'll be sure to try them if anyone ever comes knocking. The Bible burning one is priceless (too bad you haven't tried it). I mean, normally I wouldn't...but now I'm just too tempted...



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Fri 02/13/09 01:43 PM

I really enjoy wasting their time. So I get that real excited look and I tell them. Wow, I can't your here. PLEASE let me share my experience with you.

I begin by telling them about how church never made sense to me, as a child, and my struggle to undertand. All the churches I visited, etc. And each time them they interrupt I just say, "oh yea, and let me tell you this. I just keep building on the story, year of my life. Then when it seems Im loosing them, I tell them, oh wait, I'm just getting to the revelation.

Then I go into great, explicit detail about the epiphany I suddeny had and how the weight of the world seemed to lift from my shoulders... They usually gain a bit of interest back at that point. I spend some time building it up, till I'm about to loose them again then I spit out

It was an amazing feeling, a sense of relief to finally say out loud. Da mn I'm an athiest, that's why I can't believe this sh t, and as they're, nearly, running away, I hold up my arm and scream halleluia, I'm free, free at last from the oppression.

Then I just go inside and close the door.

It's kinda sad, becasue the last time that happened was about 5 years ago. I see them all still, going door to door, but my door is no longer pounded on....

TRUE STORY!
I am just like you Di, I LOVE missionaries. They tend to not love me so much however. I usually end up disappointed however due to the fact that I have never had any that could really make use of wit or logic to counter anything I say.

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Sat 03/21/09 02:49 PM

I live in "Mormon Country" Utah. I was raised LDS and so I do understand their perspective. They believe with their whole hearts, well, at least some of them do, that their faith is right and proper. Not only that, but when you have "the one and only true church" rammed down your throat every Sunday you really start to believe it. They're not there to annoy you and as corny as it sounds they just want to "save" you. I've come to realize that most people don't believe in their faiths because they think it's the best thing in the world, it's mostly that they're afraid to not believe. Hell is pretty big deterrent for millions. I used to be one of them.

It's a certain level of apathy I suppose, I don't care if they believe what they do, for some people, religion is a really good thing, it's how they stay together, and their faith in their God is what gives them strength. There was a time I thought I would be a jerk and come up with retorts or try to convince them why they were "wrong", but honestly, who am I to say what is right?

I'm cool with religion, I just don't want it in my life, nor do I want to talk to them about it or why I've chosen my life as it is. My general trick is to wave at the missionaries. They see me go home and because I'm being friendly I think they assume I'm already a member. Either way, they never knock on my door. I did have Relief Society come to my door once, but I told them I wasn't a member and I'd prefer them to not come back, and I haven't seen them since. Unless they're being rude people are people, I don't have a reason to be rude either. I don't believe in Christ the demi-God, but I do believe the man existed, and I think he had it right in love for everyone. We, the missionaries and I, may not see eye to eye, but I've got no hate for them, also knowing they have no hate for me.

Just some thoughts.


I think the biggest problem with religion is that each one thinks its is the "one true" one. Like you, I have no hate for anyone based upon their religious preference.

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Sun 04/19/09 12:17 AM
Them: "Have you heard the word?"
You: "Word up? Yeah, It's a cult word."
Then you close the door and turn up your stereo...

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Tue 04/21/09 07:21 PM
I love dorms, no missionaries.

It was a slap in the face when my mom got me a bible for my birthday, though.
Ouch.

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Tue 04/21/09 09:01 PM
I have had missionaries at my door many times, I listen politely, but dont invite them in, eventually they et the point and excuse themselves, I was catholic, mormon, ex wife was lutheran. I dont have a problem with people having thier religion, I have a faith in my on way, I just dont feel that your imaginary friend is better than my imaginary friend.

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Tue 04/21/09 09:11 PM
I so had this happen to me today, Freaking five in the morning some LDS freaks knocked on my door.


I opened it after like ten minutes said what can I do?

Could you spare a few minutes to talk about christ our lord and saviour?


Sure, come on in.


I was their first person new guy training with an older one

Both maybe mid twenties.


I told them to give me their spiel.

Then when they finished I said thank you, And do you have a F@#king clue what time it is? Some of us don't get paychecks signed by god some of us work for a living. Some of us have to deal with life instead of hiding behind a shield of a floating guy in the Damn sky! And then I told them if I ever had to wake up to deal with jesus freaks again I was going to personally send them to their lord and saviour. They got up said thanks for my time and walked out slowly, once out my door they ran like hell to their van and took off.

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Wed 04/22/09 11:55 PM
knock knock
"Yes?"
"Hi. We'd like to talk to you about God."
"Oh? Ok, what would you like to know?"
"Know?"
"Well yes. I presume you must be seeking information. Are you taking a poll?"
"A poll? Well no...we just wanted..."
"Yes yes I know. You want to talk to me about god. Ok then, which one would you like to talk about?"
"There's only one god."
"Really? How interesting. That'll be SOME news to a few people I know, I can tell you. So...what would you like to know about your one god?"
getting frustrated...
"NO NO! We're here to tell YOU about God."
"Oh? So....your one god wants me to know about him, does he?"
"Well yes, of course. He cares about you and loves you."
"Does he now. That's very interesting. Very interesting indeed. And what does this god person know about me anyway?"
"He knows everying about you. He knows everything about everything."
"Really? Does he know my email addy too?"
"Yes of course! He knows EVERYTHING!"
"Then get him to send some freaking emails so dumb****s like you don't have to 'spread the word' by waking up people like me!"
door SLAM
(I typically sleep in the day and don't wake up well to the clamor of fools)

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Thu 04/23/09 04:54 PM
Awesome, better than my threats of execution.

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Sat 04/25/09 02:53 PM

Awesome, better than my threats of execution.


thx. Logic and reason are a wonderful things. Too bad most people don't have an appreciation of them.

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Sat 04/25/09 02:59 PM



and I always find it useful to bring up how
their loving sensitive personal god
delights in little children starving to death

what helps is when you can show 'em pictures.


Yeah no kidding. It's also useful against rapid anti-abortionists too. It drives me crazy when they spout off about how wrong an abortion is but they'll do nothing about the 30000 or so actually born kids that die from starvation each and every day on this planet.