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Topic: Wiccans - part 2
Krimsa's photo
Thu 11/13/08 04:14 AM
Edited by Krimsa on Thu 11/13/08 04:14 AM
Ive said this a couple times before yet its true so I will say it again.

When was the last time you were woken up at 9am on a Saturday morning by a bunch of proselytizing Pagans?

That alone makes it an inviting choice of spiritual path. :tongue: happy

Ruth34611's photo
Thu 11/13/08 05:37 AM
Sometimes we get loud at parties though.

Krimsa's photo
Thu 11/13/08 06:38 AM

Sometimes we get loud at parties though.


Well yeah thats true. Rituals can even get chaotic and loud. That might be part of the reason no one is up early to go around the neighborhood proselytizing. laugh :wink: happy

Just kidding.

Ruth34611's photo
Thu 11/13/08 06:42 AM


Sometimes we get loud at parties though.


Well yeah thats true. Rituals can even get chaotic and loud. That might be part of the reason no one is up early to go around the neighborhood proselytizing. laugh :wink: happy

Just kidding.


I think we don't proselytize because we want to keep all the fun for ourselves. laugh

Abracadabra's photo
Thu 11/13/08 10:41 AM

I think we don't proselytize because we want to keep all the fun for ourselves. laugh


Exactly.

My cousin is a devout Catholic and thinks my interest in witchcraft is absurd.

That's fine with me. I didn't even argue with him in the slightest.

If he wants to wallow in his hell that's his choice. And trust me, the man is not happy, that's crystal clear.

Sure, I know that he would be much happier if could truly understand what he's missing, but it's not my job to make him happy. That's his job. I can only offer to him that I'm happy in what I do.

I'm not going to proselytize to him.

His misery is in own choice. And like I say, his misery is crystal clear. He becomes frustrated and upset over every little superficial thing. People who are truly happy just don't do that.

Of course, I can't contribute my coolness to witcthcraft. shades

But I can contribute it to breaking free of that godforsaken Mediterranean crap.

There's no question about that. That religion is just hard on the soul, period. It's a guilt-trip ridden nightmare. Even making perfectly decent well-meaning people feeling that they are unworthy of the love of their creator. whoa

And there's no question about it because this is the premise of that religion. All men are pathetic failures and sinners who have fallen from grace from God and who have only been saved by grace which they DON'T DERSERVE!

How can anyone claim that's not a guilt-trip religion? It fundamentally brainwashes people to believe that they are unworthy of God.

Wicca, and all forms of witchcraft that I have read about are totally LOVING relationships with God, spirit, or however the witch desires to view the powers that be.

It's all about love, and harming none.

It's not about making people feel unworthy of God's love. That's just sick pure and simple. sick

But hey, if people want to chose to torture themselves by placing their faith in such a horrific picture of God that's their choice.

Who am I to proselytize otherwise?

Let him wallow in his hell. It's his choice.

no photo
Thu 11/13/08 11:06 AM
Of course, I can't contribute my coolness to witcthcraft.--shades



bigsmile --Neither can I. -- smokin

Krimsa's photo
Thu 11/13/08 11:33 AM
I think if you are truly happy about living, you worry a lot less about death because you are preoccupied with life. There is also no room for sin in that equation. :tongue:

BrandiBreakdownx's photo
Thu 11/13/08 12:11 PM
I'm wiccan.

(: & I love ittt.

Abracadabra's photo
Thu 11/13/08 12:19 PM

I'm wiccan.

(: & I love ittt.


May I ask if you were raised in Wicca, or is this something you chose yourself as an adult?

Just curious. flowers

BrandiBreakdownx's photo
Thu 11/13/08 12:25 PM


I'm wiccan.

(: & I love ittt.


May I ask if you were raised in Wicca, or is this something you chose yourself as an adult?

Just curious. flowers


I was actually raised since I was about 6.
My uncle introduced it to me, and my family.
And my cousin when I was 14 got me somewhat into
Tarot and such. Then when I was 16, I was
officially initiated as a Wiccan. (:

Ruth34611's photo
Thu 11/13/08 12:27 PM

I'm wiccan.

(: & I love ittt.


Welcome!

Abracadabra's photo
Thu 11/13/08 12:45 PM



I'm wiccan.

(: & I love ittt.


May I ask if you were raised in Wicca, or is this something you chose yourself as an adult?

Just curious. flowers


I was actually raised since I was about 6.
My uncle introduced it to me, and my family.
And my cousin when I was 14 got me somewhat into
Tarot and such. Then when I was 16, I was
officially initiated as a Wiccan. (:


You were very lucky indeed. flowerforyou

I was born into a family of air-head idiots. Actually they were pretty smart in the technical sense but they seemed to be completely clueless spiritually, they had all been brainwashed to believe they were unworthy of God's love and all that was left to do was beg for mercy and pray.

It was truly a nightmare, trust me. ohwell




BrandiBreakdownx's photo
Thu 11/13/08 12:56 PM




I'm wiccan.

(: & I love ittt.


May I ask if you were raised in Wicca, or is this something you chose yourself as an adult?

Just curious. flowers


I was actually raised since I was about 6.
My uncle introduced it to me, and my family.
And my cousin when I was 14 got me somewhat into
Tarot and such. Then when I was 16, I was
officially initiated as a Wiccan. (:


You were very lucky indeed. flowerforyou

I was born into a family of air-head idiots. Actually they were pretty smart in the technical sense but they seemed to be completely clueless spiritually, they had all been brainwashed to believe they were unworthy of God's love and all that was left to do was beg for mercy and pray.

It was truly a nightmare, trust me. ohwell






Awh, that's no good. Well besides my uncle and cousin,
and a few selective few.. my family belongs in a crazy
house. XD hahah

Krimsa's photo
Thu 11/13/08 10:07 PM
Edited by Krimsa on Thu 11/13/08 10:10 PM
I kind of wish I had discovered Wicca or Paganism at a younger age. I probably would have been very interested in it then and may have even pursued it. I pretty much came from a secular background and for that Im grateful. No one really cared much about religion or felt it necessary to convert anyone. Children dont have any choice in the matter and they tend to just go along with whatever adults tell them they should put their faith in and blindly accept.

Children want to please and appease adults in some respect.

I think a better role for parents to take is a back seat one. This is what religion is about and its up to you if you want to get involved. Let it go at that and this will support them in their investigation if they are so inclined but wont force one spirituality or another on them.

SkyHook5652's photo
Fri 11/14/08 12:50 AM
Edited by SkyHook5652 on Fri 11/14/08 12:51 AM
Krimsa said:
I think if you are truly happy about living, you worry a lot less about death because you are preoccupied with life. There is also no room for sin in that equation. :tongue:
That is truly inspiring, if not profound. flowers

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 11/14/08 05:38 AM
In my opinion, death is just a part of the cycle and we never really leave anyone behind. At least not forever. We are always coming back together with the ones we loved before.

inkraven86's photo
Fri 11/14/08 07:29 AM

… So if I want a used broom I either need to cleanse it before I use it, or take it to a seasoned witch who can determine whether the spiritual energies within it is good or bad.

This brings me back to the Wal-mart brooms. They too could be spiritually cleansed to remove any hostile or negative vibrations they might have acquired from the many different workers who may have had a part in their manufacture.

None the less, since I live in a quaint cottage with a quaint décor I'm still drawn toward purchasing a quaint broom. bigsmile

In fact, the more I connect with it on a spiritual level, the more spiritually attuned I will be with it.
OK, I’m gonna ask this and hope it’s not completely absurd because I have virtually zero knowledge of Wicca...

Wouldn’t making your own broom be the ideal? Wouldn’t you be naturally more attuned to a tool you had made yourself than one which had been assembled in an impersonal manufacturing process?

When I was working as a machinist I had a few tools that I had made myself for specific purposes and which I felt were better and more efficient for their specific purpose than any prefabricated tool I had ever been able to find. Whether that was actually true or not, I don’t know. But I know that I did feel more “comfortable” using them than the prefabricated tools and I think that “emotional attachment” to them would necessarily translate into, at least, more confidence in what I was doing.

Does any of that make sense in relation to your broom? I don’t know if it is required to be an efficient tool for actually sweeping dirt and debris on a floor or not.



I agree on the comment made on the making of the broom, completely. smiles

inkraven86's photo
Fri 11/14/08 07:37 AM
Ok, tell me what you think of this, every psychic or half psychic and even my mother who had the gift, who read my palm said they could not tell me what they saw, and even more so when I pressed my mother on the issue, all she would say is, I would live a very hard life. So what is up with that? I have to laugh at this, because things are what they are and I do my best not to take too much of it seriously because at too many times in my life, I took my life much too seriously and it did no real benefit other than to destroy my life. So any comments on this would be appreciated.

Krimsa's photo
Fri 11/14/08 07:38 AM
It seems that there is much more active participation after having moved this thread to "Other Religions". Maybe that was a good idea and it was getting lost in "general." huh bigsmile

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 11/14/08 07:41 AM

Ok, tell me what you think of this, every psychic or half psychic and even my mother who had the gift, who read my palm said they could not tell me what they saw, and even more so when I pressed my mother on the issue, all she would say is, I would live a very hard life. So what is up with that? I have to laugh at this, because things are what they are and I do my best not to take too much of it seriously because at too many times in my life, I took my life much too seriously and it did no real benefit other than to destroy my life. So any comments on this would be appreciated.


Perhaps your outlook on life and your attitude have made things much easier. Those things count for more than most people think.

And, welcome to the thread. flowerforyou

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