Looks like it.

Thank you for welcoming me, I look forward to reading these threads and gaining a better perspective on the subject matter of wicca, as I have been obviously poorly informed of many details concerning this. smiles

Feel free to post any questions or thoughts.

I think it would be best to catch up on all the beforehand threads and than get to the questions as my questions may have been answered all ready somewhere. smiles, I'll be back around soon. Hope your day is awesome. bye for now ya'll. smiles and waves

The key to happiness is not to take life too seriously.

My older sister had lead a somewhat tragic life. Her life was like a soap opera. Honestly. It was one tragic crisis after another. She was (is still is) rather high strung and so is her family. (It must be in the genes) But they are very close and emotional.

Anyway one day she was telling me all of her problems. I started to laugh. She was confused as to why I was laughing. I told her how I saw her life as a soap opera and that if she could just write her life story with all the emotion along with it she could sell it and make millions. Then I summarized it for her to show her the story.

She was able to detach herself from the story and see it from a different point of view, as the soap opera and love tragedy of all her struggles and stories. She also started to laugh.

Today, she lives across the street from me. Her life is what she wants it and she has accomplished her dream to retire and move to Springfield next to our parents.

Don't take life too seriously. See it for the challenge and adventure it is. Follow your bliss and find joy and laughter in life.

jb

No no!

I can't do that!

I was brought up to believe that I must be somber and serious and never laugh at anything, and if I follow my bliss I'll be sent to hell for all of eternity.

God doesn't like happy people who have fun!

Shame be on them!

I must now go do confession and confess that I've talked to such a wicked person as you!

You've suggested that I should enjoy life!

How dare you!

I'm covering my eyes and ears!

I won't hear of it!

I won't hear of it!

I won't hear of it!

Go away! You're corrupting me!

You were sent by the devil to corrupt me!

You a HEATHEN!

You are already corrupted, stop whining

Come up to my place some time and I will corrupt you beyond your wildest dreams.

I know and I love it!

I'd rather feely go to hell than to have to grovel my way into heaven.

True, so am I

Hell would appear to be much more engaging anyway. I think I would prefer the actual stimulus of being poked with a pitchfork by little pan like critters with hooves and horns much more than simply sitting around up in the clouds someplace. That just seems boring and not much better than being stuck in a lay over at the airport or something.

OMG! My sides are hurting!

I could just see it now. All these people standing around in pure white robes with hymn books in their hands singing praise to a bright light in the sky. (like sun worshipers)

Over the loudspeaker you hear:

"Gate 12 now boarding for hell, for anyone who's interested".

Run, or you miss it, hurry

Damn! Did I miss that bus again???

The bus for hell!

It says "Hell" up on that little marquee thing in front.

LOL ya'll are funny, nah, I don't take life too seriously, I learned some very valuable lessons from a good friend of mine who taught me how to just go with the flow of things, has worked for me ever since too. And I did mean I would return as I have now. As far as the thing about the palm reading stuff, I just wanted to know ya'lls opinion that's all. LOL Anyways, its all good. How is everyone doing tonight? Me, just chillin after a damn long day of studies, from 6 in the morning until 20 minutes ago, I have been studying. I feel like my head is blocked up with all sorts of things. LOL

I honestly know nothing about palm reading so I can't really speak to its effectiveness. I read Tarot cards. I don't generally predict the future with Tarot cards either. I use them to find out what's going on in the present and to help me make decisions that will determine my future.

I don't think that there are too many people who can predict the future accurately.

I had my palm read when I was about 20 years old. A cousin read it for me, she's a gypsy witch quite a bit older than me.

When she read my palm a look of concern came over her face and I could tell that something was wrong.

I asked, "So what's it say? Am I going to die soon? Tell me, I can handle it, death doesn't scare me"

She said, "No. You're actually going to have a very long life and grow to be quite old"

I asked, "So what's wrong with that?"

She said, "Well, other than that there's nothing happening until quite late in your life. Then it looks like all hell breaks loose."

I asked, "What do you mean?"

She said, "Well, you're not going to meet a significant other until quite late in life. And nothing much happens until then. But then it looks like all kinds of great things are going to be happening, but its too far in the future I can't get a sense of what they might be, I only sense that they'll be great. So your life looks like it's going to end in a grand finale. But until then, it's pretty drab."

Well that was when I was 20. I didn't believe a word of it. But so far the drab part's been very true.

I never married, nor have I ever had a truly meaningful relationship. So she was right about that part!

Whether the exciting part will ever unfold I don't know. I'm 59 now and still waiting.

That life line's gonna need to extend into my 80's or beyond if anything significant is going to happen.

I wonder if she misread it?

Maybe what she saw as a 'grand finale' in this life was actually a new birth in my next reincarnation?

Of course I guess palms are supposed to tell what's happening within this lifetime.

So only time will tell now. She certainly was right about the drab stuff, and that I would never become seriously involved for the bulk of my life. And she certainly didn't get that from my attitude because even at 20 I was very marriage-minded and she knew it. That's probably why she was so stunned that I wasn't going to meet a significant other until very late in life.

I wonder though.

Most people believe that divination is not carved in stone. It's just a prediction of what will happen if you don't intentionally change your path.

But what about palm reading? That sure sounds like it would need to be carved in flesh fate.

Or do palms change with intent?

Could I have somehow change my fate of a drab life? Or was it fate?

These are interesting questions that bring up the whole "Free Will" thing.

It was certainly my "desire" to get married early in life. But maybe, in truth, it was never my "intent".

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Excuse the long ramble but I need to add a tad more.

My most favorite cliché has always been "Where there's a will, there's a way"

I've always believed that I can do anything. If I put my mind to it, look out! It's gonna happen!

I remember vividly when I was young. I used to come home after highschool dances or parties feeling somewhat defeated because I couldn't attract the attention of the girls I wanted to date. Well, let's face it, I was shy too, and a coward.

Anyway, I would come home and whine about not being able to get a date.

And my mother would say, "I thought you believed that where there's a will there's a way?"

I would say, "I do. But sometimes it doesn't always work."

Then she would say, "Well you must not have the will then".

She was right.

For some reason I probably was cowering away from commitment or something and just didn't realize it.

I had a 'desire' to become involved in a committed relationship, but in truth I didn't really have the 'will' to do it.

I guess I just wasn't ready to commit. I wanted my freedom more than a commitment.

That must have been it.

So was it fate? Destiny? Or just a man who was afraid to commit?

And how did that show up in my palm?

And would my palm have changed if I had change my attitude?

So many questions, so few dates.

I don't think that you can cheat fate

If you see life as a road, and the end of the road is what fate has in mind for you, whatever turnoff you take, and no matter how often you do that, fate will bend the road you have taken to your final destination, whether you like it or not.
It's just that the road to there will be harder and longer.

But is fate real?

I mean carved in stone?

My cousin read my palm and predicted that I would not become involed in a truly serious relationship until very late in my life.

I was 20 years old.

Was that fate carved in stone?

Did I have a choice to change it?

Where's free will in this picture?

What caused it? My karma from past lives?

Was my fate in this life, my free will choice based on past karma?

Could I have changed it when I was 20?

Was it possible for me to have married at 21 and raised a family?

Was that choice truly open to me?

It was it never really my choice at all?

This is one problem with divination.

If divination is true, where's free will?

Jeanniebean (and lots of books) say that divination is just merely what will happen IF a person remains on their present course. But they can change that course and therefore change their future.

In other words, they can actually avoid what divination predicts.

That's why I'm asking that if I had changed my attitude and intent, could I have changed my life?

And if so, then why didn't I?

Or why didn't my cousin, say, "Hey you need to change directions here!"

She acted like it was carved in stone, that's just the way things were going to be.

I didn't really believe her, but it sure seems to have turned out to be an accurate prediction. At least the first part.

Of course, if last part of my life turns out to be just as drab as the first part then she would only have been half right.