Topic: What about the stimulus to stimulate the economy?
enderra's photo
Tue 11/11/08 10:25 AM
SCREW THE ECONOMY, WHAT ABOUT STIMULATING ME!!!oops oops offtopic

Giocamo's photo
Tue 11/11/08 10:28 AM
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SCREW THE ECONOMY, WHAT ABOUT STIMULATING ME!!!oops oops offtopic


boingggggggggggggggggg !!!!!

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Tue 11/11/08 10:32 AM


Did you know there is over 160 billion dollars that is unclaimed in stimulus checks and refund tax checks?

Where does it go? Why can't it go back into the government budget? It seems that would help the deficit, right?


I would love to see that money get divided amongst the people...


what people...poor, middle class....how far up the ladder would you go?

Drivinmenutz's photo
Tue 11/11/08 10:36 AM



Did you know there is over 160 billion dollars that is unclaimed in stimulus checks and refund tax checks?

Where does it go? Why can't it go back into the government budget? It seems that would help the deficit, right?


I would love to see that money get divided amongst the people...


what people...poor, middle class....how far up the ladder would you go?


I say give it to local, smaller business owners. You know, so they can build up and create jobs that aren't outsourced....

Either that, or divide it equally amongst everyone, of all classes maybe...

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Tue 11/11/08 10:38 AM




Did you know there is over 160 billion dollars that is unclaimed in stimulus checks and refund tax checks?

Where does it go? Why can't it go back into the government budget? It seems that would help the deficit, right?


I would love to see that money get divided amongst the people...


what people...poor, middle class....how far up the ladder would you go?


I say give it to local, smaller business owners. You know, so they can build up and create jobs that aren't outsourced....

Either that, or divide it equally amongst everyone, of all classes maybe...


what about putting it toward health care for people who can't get it

Drivinmenutz's photo
Tue 11/11/08 10:46 AM





Did you know there is over 160 billion dollars that is unclaimed in stimulus checks and refund tax checks?

Where does it go? Why can't it go back into the government budget? It seems that would help the deficit, right?


I would love to see that money get divided amongst the people...


what people...poor, middle class....how far up the ladder would you go?


I say give it to local, smaller business owners. You know, so they can build up and create jobs that aren't outsourced....

Either that, or divide it equally amongst everyone, of all classes maybe...


what about putting it toward health care for people who can't get it


I honestly think that throwing money at healthcare isn't the answer at all.

We have several problems in healthcare that stem from government control. According to Dr. Paul, the FDA makes noninvasive, cheap procedures illegal, not because they are unsafe, they are in fact SAFER, but because they can't be patented, and monopolized. Until this problem is addressed, we can throw trillions at it and we are only making the rich, richer.

Do away with HMO, bring the FDA into questioning. If you lower the cost of living for people (this means cutting taxes, and focusing on the value of our dollar), people could afford their own healthcare. If you reduced the cost of living by 50% (to include tax deductions), someone could afford a $100 procedure that replaced a $10,000 dollar procedure that acompanies and additional $300 a month in pills...

So no, i would not throw that money at healthcare, unless i bought myself enough votes to regulate the FDA and abolish HMO.....:wink:

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Tue 11/11/08 10:49 AM
not directly at healthcare, but somehow maybe vouchering it towards premiums for people

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Tue 11/11/08 10:50 AM
they could give some of it to those of us who don't pay taxes and thus didnt get any of it

Drivinmenutz's photo
Tue 11/11/08 10:53 AM
I Think the importan question is...

"What would Chuck Norris do?":wink:

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Tue 11/11/08 10:53 AM
eat your club sandwich robin

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Tue 11/11/08 10:54 AM

eat your club sandwich robin


rofl thats what the IRS told me too

Drivinmenutz's photo
Tue 11/11/08 10:55 AM

not directly at healthcare, but somehow maybe vouchering it towards premiums for people


I know it sounds cold, but i don't think i would, without addressing the actual cause of unafordable healthcare.

Hell, it would probably be most helpful putting it against the deficit, as you said.

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Tue 11/11/08 10:55 AM




There is no cure. But..they can be clean and/or sober for the rest of their lives.

yes they can winx.

and this NATION also could cure the ghetto..cuz face it...aint that one of OUR biggest problems???
the source????
The source!!!!!! Well that could be looked at the other way. The Ghetto, if you can make more money pushing dope than working a job the barely pays you enough to get buy. HMMMMMM Welfare could be look at the same way. If I can just enough to get by without working that job that pays not much more and I dont have the worry of health care. Hmmmmmm The cause is?



the cause perhaps...lack of ambition, feelings of failure, addiction, inability to find a decent job that is better than selling drugs and living on welfare, being pulled into a downward spiral. idk, Im just brainstorming.
I agree with them!!! We will Never eliminate any of them. We can fix some of the problems associated with them and just perhaps they will lessen. Health care is a biggie in all you have mentioned. Im just one of those crazys that think we are already paying( I will discuss my insurance cost going up and all the high cost ER visits for a low cost treatment ). But that is just my opinion..

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Tue 11/11/08 11:02 AM





There is no cure. But..they can be clean and/or sober for the rest of their lives.

yes they can winx.

and this NATION also could cure the ghetto..cuz face it...aint that one of OUR biggest problems???
the source????
The source!!!!!! Well that could be looked at the other way. The Ghetto, if you can make more money pushing dope than working a job the barely pays you enough to get buy. HMMMMMM Welfare could be look at the same way. If I can just enough to get by without working that job that pays not much more and I dont have the worry of health care. Hmmmmmm The cause is?



the cause perhaps...lack of ambition, feelings of failure, addiction, inability to find a decent job that is better than selling drugs and living on welfare, being pulled into a downward spiral. idk, Im just brainstorming.
I agree with them!!! We will Never eliminate any of them. We can fix some of the problems associated with them and just perhaps they will lessen. Health care is a biggie in all you have mentioned. Im just one of those crazys that think we are already paying( I will discuss my insurance cost going up and all the high cost ER visits for a low cost treatment ). But that is just my opinion..

my opinion?

Why do so many think that you can take something that is not real...(Money that you give value by PRINTING IT?)... and use it to fix a problem that is real?

Its like you just baked a cake... and (darn) you burned it...

Covering it with frosting still wont make it taste good.

The only way to fix it is to start over.

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Tue 11/11/08 11:08 AM
it's been printed....mailed out....returned to sender and now what? it's not like the government is going to shred it.
what happens to it now?


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Tue 11/11/08 11:24 AM





There is no cure. But..they can be clean and/or sober for the rest of their lives.

yes they can winx.

and this NATION also could cure the ghetto..cuz face it...aint that one of OUR biggest problems???
the source????
The source!!!!!! Well that could be looked at the other way. The Ghetto, if you can make more money pushing dope than working a job the barely pays you enough to get buy. HMMMMMM Welfare could be look at the same way. If I can just enough to get by without working that job that pays not much more and I dont have the worry of health care. Hmmmmmm The cause is?



the cause perhaps...lack of ambition, feelings of failure, addiction, inability to find a decent job that is better than selling drugs and living on welfare, being pulled into a downward spiral. idk, Im just brainstorming.
I agree with them!!! We will Never eliminate any of them. We can fix some of the problems associated with them and just perhaps they will lessen. Health care is a biggie in all you have mentioned. Im just one of those crazys that think we are already paying( I will discuss my insurance cost going up and all the high cost ER visits for a low cost treatment ). But that is just my opinion..


the cost of healthcare is obscene, I AGREE.
The affordability is ridiculous, and sometimes I am quite sure its a conspiracy between insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies.
I will not talk about the docs treating the patients though, because for one thing they are covering their own butt, and tests need to be done, redone, and overchecked. although sometimes when you are so busy, things get overlooked. and sometimes its much easier to just write an order for daily chest xrays. they gotta cover their azzzzzz.......becasue at this point that guy they are trying to save...sure wouldnt mind trying to find a way to get him a lawsuit going on.

but. if you want to complain about the price of healthcare, many already have free healthcare. that cost of the ER visit to get their stomach tapped to pull off some fluids. or emergent dialysis. whatever it is. they arent paying for their healthcare....so for the ones that are paying, this makes our costs higher..cuz everybodys gotta make some money somehow. Im not complaining, but I am also not suffering from a chronic disease.

how do u figure we decrease the costs of healthcare?? well, we stop needing it as much.




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Tue 11/11/08 11:29 AM






There is no cure. But..they can be clean and/or sober for the rest of their lives.

yes they can winx.

and this NATION also could cure the ghetto..cuz face it...aint that one of OUR biggest problems???
the source????
The source!!!!!! Well that could be looked at the other way. The Ghetto, if you can make more money pushing dope than working a job the barely pays you enough to get buy. HMMMMMM Welfare could be look at the same way. If I can just enough to get by without working that job that pays not much more and I dont have the worry of health care. Hmmmmmm The cause is?



the cause perhaps...lack of ambition, feelings of failure, addiction, inability to find a decent job that is better than selling drugs and living on welfare, being pulled into a downward spiral. idk, Im just brainstorming.
I agree with them!!! We will Never eliminate any of them. We can fix some of the problems associated with them and just perhaps they will lessen. Health care is a biggie in all you have mentioned. Im just one of those crazys that think we are already paying( I will discuss my insurance cost going up and all the high cost ER visits for a low cost treatment ). But that is just my opinion..

my opinion?

Why do so many think that you can take something that is not real...(Money that you give value by PRINTING IT?)... and use it to fix a problem that is real?

Its like you just baked a cake... and (darn) you burned it...

Covering it with frosting still wont make it taste good.

The only way to fix it is to start over.
Heres my problem!!! WE ALREADY ARE,ARe,Are,are...Do you propose a mortorium on health care? Thats not going to happen...How are you going to control costs? I have been hit for more cost on my policy since the 80s. Gave up wages to have it! Have to pay part of it. Look at the ERS!!!! High price solution to a low cost problem. I say IM already paying but want to do it alittle more wisly.

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Tue 11/11/08 11:37 AM






There is no cure. But..they can be clean and/or sober for the rest of their lives.

yes they can winx.

and this NATION also could cure the ghetto..cuz face it...aint that one of OUR biggest problems???
the source????
The source!!!!!! Well that could be looked at the other way. The Ghetto, if you can make more money pushing dope than working a job the barely pays you enough to get buy. HMMMMMM Welfare could be look at the same way. If I can just enough to get by without working that job that pays not much more and I dont have the worry of health care. Hmmmmmm The cause is?



the cause perhaps...lack of ambition, feelings of failure, addiction, inability to find a decent job that is better than selling drugs and living on welfare, being pulled into a downward spiral. idk, Im just brainstorming.
I agree with them!!! We will Never eliminate any of them. We can fix some of the problems associated with them and just perhaps they will lessen. Health care is a biggie in all you have mentioned. Im just one of those crazys that think we are already paying( I will discuss my insurance cost going up and all the high cost ER visits for a low cost treatment ). But that is just my opinion..


the cost of healthcare is obscene, I AGREE.
The affordability is ridiculous, and sometimes I am quite sure its a conspiracy between insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies.
I will not talk about the docs treating the patients though, because for one thing they are covering their own butt, and tests need to be done, redone, and overchecked. although sometimes when you are so busy, things get overlooked. and sometimes its much easier to just write an order for daily chest xrays. they gotta cover their azzzzzz.......becasue at this point that guy they are trying to save...sure wouldnt mind trying to find a way to get him a lawsuit going on.

but. if you want to complain about the price of healthcare, many already have free healthcare. that cost of the ER visit to get their stomach tapped to pull off some fluids. or emergent dialysis. whatever it is. they arent paying for their healthcare....so for the ones that are paying, this makes our costs higher..cuz everybodys gotta make some money somehow. Im not complaining, but I am also not suffering from a chronic disease.

how do u figure we decrease the costs of healthcare?? well, we stop needing it as much.




You lost me here....but. if you want to complain about the price of healthcare, many already have free healthcare. that cost of the ER visit to get their stomach tapped to pull off some fluids. or emergent dialysis. whatever it is.....It is not free health care. The hopitals have to recuope their loss. And how do they do that?? Charge me more!!! Something IM paying for!!!!!! Recoup 1/2 of thse high priced ER visits and What do you have...SAVINGS!!!!!!!!

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Tue 11/11/08 11:39 AM
Every adult U.S. Citizen should get a piece, right down the line and the exact same amount. It doesn't matter who needs it more when it comes to re-stimulating the economy; almost everyone will use it in some way that is beneficial to the U.S. as a whole, be it investing or simply going to the local grocery store to buy diapers.

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Tue 11/11/08 11:42 AM

Every adult U.S. Citizen should get a piece, right down the line and the exact same amount. It doesn't matter who needs it more when it comes to re-stimulating the economy; almost everyone will use it in some way that is beneficial to the U.S. as a whole, be it investing or simply going to the local grocery store to buy diapers.


but....if your address is not good it gets returned. should it be the government's responsibility to make sure you gave the right address on your taxes or change of address?

163 BILLION dollars gets returned...