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Well, I caught her red-handed, on this thread poking fun, and on another thread, so sweetly saying how she doesnt like it when people do that. It's getting ridiculous. Just end it already. Moving on. Tina  ....busted !!...
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Well, I caught her red-handed, on this thread poking fun, and on another thread, so sweetly saying how she doesnt like it when people do that. It's getting ridiculous. Just end it already. Moving on. Tina Poking fun?! I made a silly joke about Temps word, crap. You need to so get over yourself. |
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Well, I caught her red-handed, on this thread poking fun, and on another thread, so sweetly saying how she doesnt like it when people do that. It's getting ridiculous. Just end it already. Moving on. Tina ....busted !!...
No, not busted. I said on another thread that I thought it was sad when people act condescending to others or put others down or call them names. As you know, I don't like those things. |
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this isn't really about the Redistribution of Wealth anymore is it
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this isn't really about the Redistribution of Wealth anymore is it No, it's about her bothering me on two threads and misquoting me on another and copying and posting what I say. |
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Well, I caught her red-handed, on this thread poking fun, and on another thread, so sweetly saying how she doesnt like it when people do that. It's getting ridiculous. Just end it already. Moving on. Tina ....busted !!...
No, not busted. I said on another thread that I thought it was sad when people act condescending to others or put others down or call them names. As you know, I don't like those things. was your hand in that cookie jar again ?...  ...
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Well, I caught her red-handed, on this thread poking fun, and on another thread, so sweetly saying how she doesnt like it when people do that. It's getting ridiculous. Just end it already. Moving on. Tina ....busted !!...
No, not busted. I said on another thread that I thought it was sad when people act condescending to others or put others down or call them names. As you know, I don't like those things. was your hand in that cookie jar again ?... ...
Nope. I rarely eat cookies. |
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Well, I caught her red-handed, on this thread poking fun, and on another thread, so sweetly saying how she doesnt like it when people do that. It's getting ridiculous. Just end it already. Moving on. Tina ....busted !!...
No, not busted. I said on another thread that I thought it was sad when people act condescending to others or put others down or call them names. As you know, I don't like those things. was your hand in that cookie jar again ?... ...
Nope. I rarely eat cookies. well maybe you were nabbed on that rare occasion...lol...actually...who am I crappin'...I rarely eat them either...see...we do agree on something...  
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TINA: See? No matter what you do, say or the facts you provide....things just are not comprehensible by many....SIGH.... I do not make much money, I do the best with the skills I have, I live modestly and am content with what I have. I am basically a HAPPY PUPPY! I am all for programs to assist those in need....reaching out & HELPING (NOT SUPPORTING)........ BUT I and the rest of the citizenship of the USA are NOT obligated to provide for others. Those who are financially wealthy got there through hard work, tons of stress & lots of determination & self sacrifice.......To have the AUDACITY to say these individuals are obligated to "COUGH UP" their hard earned money is mind boggeling.... 
Sure, it would be nice to have the skills to EARN (I stress the word EARN)and/or make more money....but I do not, THEREFORE, I make the best of what I have, live sensibly & modestly and am grateful for the wealthy BECAUSE it is THEY, the dastardly, how dare they be "rich", who provide the millions of jobs for others to EARN a living.....and pay the millions of dollars in taxes to keep the USA going..... Do people REALLY think the minuscule amount paid in taxes by the mid to low class wage earners & the non-tax paying wage earners - keeps things running in the USA? The words "COMMON SENSE" seem to be missing in this thread.  
Lindyy 
AND THESE, are the people that the wealthy WANT to help. People who think that they are somehow OWED something because they are poor (or as the uneducated say 'po') are not the people that deserve any more support. Tina Typical. People like you need to see what its like being on the other side and not having anything. I am poor as hell, work a crappy job to make ends meet and yes I get help from the government. It's enough to keep me and my son afloat. We aren't living the lap of luxury. I despise people like you. You have no idea what it's like for people like me. I work my arse off everyday and I still feel like no matter what I do, it will not get better. I'm educated and sometimes people get in a crunch. Get over yourself. Go back and see what I have said previously. I HAVE had it rough - WITH CHILDREN to care for at the same time. Dont give me all this "get over yourself" until you know the whole story. Before you say all the nasty things you have just said to me - TELL ME that YOU have been through the horrors I have seen! Then YOU get over YOURSELF! Tina Sure there are people out there that just want a handout, but not everyone does. If you have really had it rough you would understand that suff happens to average people sometimes too. |
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Maybe this can make a little more sense to all of you that can't think past the scope of a childhood education.
Tina Tina, you make very valid arguments. But then you proceed to lessen those points by making snide little comments such as the one I am quoting. I understand that it can be frustrating at times to feel that you are the only one who " sees the light " so to speak. Resorting to insulting someone's intelligence, however, is not the most effective way of making your point. If people don't listen to those points, that is their own choice. Oh I'm reading them but they don't go with my life experience and the tone of this whole thread is if you are poor you must be either stupid or lazy.I am neither .I'm just a single parent struggling to get by and even I will drop a few coins in a less fortunate persons cup because thats called empathy and community.Sometimes people forget their roots and what it's like to struggle.sad. You DO know, though, that it IS possible for you to do better for you and your family. No one is saying that just because you are poor you are stupid. I am saying that there are so many resources out there for single parents to make a better life for themselves, and the argument before (WINX, I think said) that people that are older with children will never make any better of a life for themselves or their families other than minimum wage and that minimum wage should be increased. You can look back and see that conversation. You can also see in other threads where I have told my story, and argued that many people are perfectly happy with making a lower income. They are happy to spend more time with their families and would opt to not work so hard in their life. What I am saying is, that's fine, but I don't want them to whine and say that somehow because I HAVE worked hard to earn good money, I owe them by paying more than 1/3 of what I earn to them. Hope that clarifies. Tina I did not say that they will never make a better life for themselves!! I said that it was more difficult. You said exactly, Winx: "But..you were young when this happened. These people are older and have children. Minimum wage cannot support a family. It's even difficult for a single adult to live on that income." Throughout the entire conversation, you had stuck to this and how "difficult" it was to a point that it was implied as nearly impossible. And in another quote, an implication: Winx: "Not to mention the psychological issues they have from living like that all of their lives and having no hope or good role models." I am just arguing the point that it IS possible. And, if one jumps on the ball early enough in the year FASFA funds will be available for them. There are also State Need Grants for EVERYTHING from excess tuition fees, class fees, books, extra cost of living, DAYCARE, etc. AND on top of that comes a subsidised loan, and if all else fails, an un-subsidised loan. Tina Not if you work. |
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Maybe this can make a little more sense to all of you that can't think past the scope of a childhood education.
Tina Tina, you make very valid arguments. But then you proceed to lessen those points by making snide little comments such as the one I am quoting. I understand that it can be frustrating at times to feel that you are the only one who " sees the light " so to speak. Resorting to insulting someone's intelligence, however, is not the most effective way of making your point. If people don't listen to those points, that is their own choice. Oh I'm reading them but they don't go with my life experience and the tone of this whole thread is if you are poor you must be either stupid or lazy.I am neither .I'm just a single parent struggling to get by and even I will drop a few coins in a less fortunate persons cup because thats called empathy and community.Sometimes people forget their roots and what it's like to struggle.sad. You DO know, though, that it IS possible for you to do better for you and your family. No one is saying that just because you are poor you are stupid. I am saying that there are so many resources out there for single parents to make a better life for themselves, and the argument before (WINX, I think said) that people that are older with children will never make any better of a life for themselves or their families other than minimum wage and that minimum wage should be increased. You can look back and see that conversation. You can also see in other threads where I have told my story, and argued that many people are perfectly happy with making a lower income. They are happy to spend more time with their families and would opt to not work so hard in their life. What I am saying is, that's fine, but I don't want them to whine and say that somehow because I HAVE worked hard to earn good money, I owe them by paying more than 1/3 of what I earn to them. Hope that clarifies. Tina I did not say that they will never make a better life for themselves!! I said that it was more difficult. You said exactly, Winx: "But..you were young when this happened. These people are older and have children. Minimum wage cannot support a family. It's even difficult for a single adult to live on that income." Throughout the entire conversation, you had stuck to this and how "difficult" it was to a point that it was implied as nearly impossible. And in another quote, an implication: Winx: "Not to mention the psychological issues they have from living like that all of their lives and having no hope or good role models." I am just arguing the point that it IS possible. And, if one jumps on the ball early enough in the year FASFA funds will be available for them. There are also State Need Grants for EVERYTHING from excess tuition fees, class fees, books, extra cost of living, DAYCARE, etc. AND on top of that comes a subsidised loan, and if all else fails, an un-subsidised loan. Tina Not if you work. Oh, well, I must not have done it while I worked a full-time job and had 3 children to care for at the same time either. Tina |
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Maybe this can make a little more sense to all of you that can't think past the scope of a childhood education.
Tina Tina, you make very valid arguments. But then you proceed to lessen those points by making snide little comments such as the one I am quoting. I understand that it can be frustrating at times to feel that you are the only one who " sees the light " so to speak. Resorting to insulting someone's intelligence, however, is not the most effective way of making your point. If people don't listen to those points, that is their own choice. Oh I'm reading them but they don't go with my life experience and the tone of this whole thread is if you are poor you must be either stupid or lazy.I am neither .I'm just a single parent struggling to get by and even I will drop a few coins in a less fortunate persons cup because thats called empathy and community.Sometimes people forget their roots and what it's like to struggle.sad. You DO know, though, that it IS possible for you to do better for you and your family. No one is saying that just because you are poor you are stupid. I am saying that there are so many resources out there for single parents to make a better life for themselves, and the argument before (WINX, I think said) that people that are older with children will never make any better of a life for themselves or their families other than minimum wage and that minimum wage should be increased. You can look back and see that conversation. You can also see in other threads where I have told my story, and argued that many people are perfectly happy with making a lower income. They are happy to spend more time with their families and would opt to not work so hard in their life. What I am saying is, that's fine, but I don't want them to whine and say that somehow because I HAVE worked hard to earn good money, I owe them by paying more than 1/3 of what I earn to them. Hope that clarifies. Tina I did not say that they will never make a better life for themselves!! I said that it was more difficult. You said exactly, Winx: "But..you were young when this happened. These people are older and have children. Minimum wage cannot support a family. It's even difficult for a single adult to live on that income." Throughout the entire conversation, you had stuck to this and how "difficult" it was to a point that it was implied as nearly impossible. And in another quote, an implication: Winx: "Not to mention the psychological issues they have from living like that all of their lives and having no hope or good role models." I am just arguing the point that it IS possible. And, if one jumps on the ball early enough in the year FASFA funds will be available for them. There are also State Need Grants for EVERYTHING from excess tuition fees, class fees, books, extra cost of living, DAYCARE, etc. AND on top of that comes a subsidised loan, and if all else fails, an un-subsidised loan. Tina Not if you work. Oh, well, I must not have done it while I worked a full-time job and had 3 children to care for at the same time either. Tina 
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Maybe this can make a little more sense to all of you that can't think past the scope of a childhood education.
Tina Tina, you make very valid arguments. But then you proceed to lessen those points by making snide little comments such as the one I am quoting. I understand that it can be frustrating at times to feel that you are the only one who " sees the light " so to speak. Resorting to insulting someone's intelligence, however, is not the most effective way of making your point. If people don't listen to those points, that is their own choice. Oh I'm reading them but they don't go with my life experience and the tone of this whole thread is if you are poor you must be either stupid or lazy.I am neither .I'm just a single parent struggling to get by and even I will drop a few coins in a less fortunate persons cup because thats called empathy and community.Sometimes people forget their roots and what it's like to struggle.sad. You DO know, though, that it IS possible for you to do better for you and your family. No one is saying that just because you are poor you are stupid. I am saying that there are so many resources out there for single parents to make a better life for themselves, and the argument before (WINX, I think said) that people that are older with children will never make any better of a life for themselves or their families other than minimum wage and that minimum wage should be increased. You can look back and see that conversation. You can also see in other threads where I have told my story, and argued that many people are perfectly happy with making a lower income. They are happy to spend more time with their families and would opt to not work so hard in their life. What I am saying is, that's fine, but I don't want them to whine and say that somehow because I HAVE worked hard to earn good money, I owe them by paying more than 1/3 of what I earn to them. Hope that clarifies. Tina I did not say that they will never make a better life for themselves!! I said that it was more difficult. You said exactly, Winx: "But..you were young when this happened. These people are older and have children. Minimum wage cannot support a family. It's even difficult for a single adult to live on that income." Throughout the entire conversation, you had stuck to this and how "difficult" it was to a point that it was implied as nearly impossible. And in another quote, an implication: Winx: "Not to mention the psychological issues they have from living like that all of their lives and having no hope or good role models." I am just arguing the point that it IS possible. And, if one jumps on the ball early enough in the year FASFA funds will be available for them. There are also State Need Grants for EVERYTHING from excess tuition fees, class fees, books, extra cost of living, DAYCARE, etc. AND on top of that comes a subsidised loan, and if all else fails, an un-subsidised loan. Tina Not if you work. Oh, well, I must not have done it while I worked a full-time job and had 3 children to care for at the same time either. Tina What applied for Grants,spent my tax money or turned into an elitist. |
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What applied for Grants,spent my tax money or turned into an elitist. It's a shame that just because you dont have the willpower to make more of yourself, you put me down for sucking it up and doing it. |
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He!! no!!! I run out of the room!!!!
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I think it would be nice if we could all agree that everyone should be doing what they can to help themselves, and only seeking out government help from others when they can't.
Nobody should be allowed to abuse the system for their own lazy purposes. It would also be nice if those who have made it, or those who were fortunate enough to be born in wealth would be willing to pass either some of their blessings or wisdom to those who do not see better things financially in their future. And it shouldn't be based on the idea of an investment--ie. to get something in return from it. It should be based on being a decent human being and caring about your fellow man. That's all I'm saying. Besides, while there are some people who milk the government for money, I would say that most people would rather be making it on their own. |
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What applied for Grants,spent my tax money or turned into an elitist. It's a shame that just because you dont have the willpower to make more of yourself, you put me down for sucking it up and doing it. Excuse me?I have more willpower then you know.I have pulled myself out of homelessness,abuse and mental illness so talk trash to someone else.My day will come but right now my youngest needs me.I'm the only parent he has in his life right now.I'm done with your condescending ,snotty remarks.First you insult my intelligence,now my drive.Like I said,elitist. |
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I think it would be nice if we could all agree that everyone should be doing what they can to help themselves, and only seeking out government help from others when they can't. Nobody should be allowed to abuse the system for their own lazy purposes. It would also be nice if those who have made it, or those who were fortunate enough to be born in wealth would be willing to pass either some of their blessings or wisdom to those who do not see better things financially in their future. And it shouldn't be based on the idea of an investment--ie. to get something in return from it. It should be based on being a decent human being and caring about your fellow man. That's all I'm saying. Besides, while there are some people who milk the government for money, I would say that most people would rather be making it on their own. I absolutely know that most would like to make it on their own. Again, I could help anyone who really wants it, and that really is an offer I would love to make. If anyone really wants to know, email me, and I will show you and talk to you and work things through with you. Tina |
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What applied for Grants,spent my tax money or turned into an elitist. It's a shame that just because you dont have the willpower to make more of yourself, you put me down for sucking it up and doing it. Excuse me?I have more willpower then you know.I have pulled myself out of homelessness,abuse and mental illness so talk trash to someone else.My day will come but right now my youngest needs me.I'm the only parent he has in his life right now.I'm done with your condescending ,snotty remarks.First you insult my intelligence,now my drive.Like I said,elitist. And about YOUR condescending, snotty remarks, are they just supposed to be overlooked? |
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Excuse me?I have more willpower then you know.I have pulled myself out of homelessness,abuse and mental illness so talk trash to someone else.My day will come but right now my youngest needs me.I'm the only parent he has in his life right now.I'm done with your condescending ,snotty remarks.First you insult my intelligence,now my drive.Like I said,elitist. Good for you! More power to you! I am always amazed to see people resisting the temptation go give up. I think it shows great strength of character and I just wish you the very best and a fruitful future! God Bless! 
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