I think people overlook that his Mother was white.
... having only 1 human race....forget color.

Madison,

I don't know that I've ever read a more patronizing and condescending "apology" than the one you wrote above. That you think you need to apologize for the actions of someone you dislike is beyond arrogant. That you think intelligent people of varying ethnicities need you to point out what they are fully capable of figuring out independently is just incredibly scary.

-Drew

What's with the continued division? One nation ... work together and make the rest of the world proud!

Madison,

I don't know that I've ever read a more patronizing and condescending "apology" than the one you wrote above. That you think you need to apologize for the actions of someone you dislike is beyond arrogant. That you think intelligent people of varying ethnicities need you to point out what they are fully capable of figuring out independently is just incredibly scary.

-Drew

Madison,

I don't know that I've ever read a more patronizing and condescending "apology" than the one you wrote above. That you think you need to apologize for the actions of someone you dislike is beyond arrogant. That you think intelligent people of varying ethnicities need you to point out what they are fully capable of figuring out independently is just incredibly scary.

-Drew

They so deserve to have a finger waved at them bro, and much more. They are lucky they are not being chased with a pitch fork for what they have done to our country.

You haven't had airplanes crash in you backyard the last 7 years have you?

i love this line of logic

its like saying "HEY! I havent been punched in the face! 'Cept for tha one time when i got punched really hard!"

Fact is we got punched.

let me remind you of history

Secretary Rice testifies to the 9/11 commission

"RICE: I remember very well that the president was aware that there were issues inside the United States. He talked to people about this. But I don't remember the al Qaeda cells as being something that we were told we needed to do something about.

BEN-VENISTE: Isn't it a fact, Dr. Rice, that the August 6 PDB warned against possible attacks in this country? And I ask you whether you recall the title of that PDB?

RICE: I believe the title was, "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States."

Now, the...

BEN-VENISTE: Thank you."


So yeah we havent been punched in a while but when you get a memo titled "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States." you have to ask... could we have avoided being punched in the first place???

I am so sorry that our President Elect has been left with such a terrible mess. What comes to my mind is that once again a black man has to clean up the mess created by the spoiled frat boys. It seems they had a party at the expense of the american people and will be counting their blood money untill they are dragged to hell by the grim reaper. I know Barack has the fortitude to get things right and am comforted by this.

i love this line of logic

its like saying "HEY! I havent been punched in the face! 'Cept for tha one time when i got punched really hard!"

Fact is we got punched.

let me remind you of history

Secretary Rice testifies to the 9/11 commission

"RICE: I remember very well that the president was aware that there were issues inside the United States. He talked to people about this. But I don't remember the al Qaeda cells as being something that we were told we needed to do something about.

BEN-VENISTE: Isn't it a fact, Dr. Rice, that the August 6 PDB warned against possible attacks in this country? And I ask you whether you recall the title of that PDB?

RICE: I believe the title was, "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States."

Now, the...

BEN-VENISTE: Thank you."


So yeah we havent been punched in a while but when you get a memo titled "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States." you have to ask... could we have avoided being punched in the first place???

It happened during the Clinton Administration as well. When President Elect Obama takes office here in Jan. and we go seven years with no attacks on our soil, I will commend him as well.

Bush also acted afterwards about the threat of WMD's in Iraq, now people hate his guts. Imagine what it would be like if we dropped bombs on Afghanistan with only the sneaking suspicion that they might fly planes into the World Trade Center?

I think your forgetting the Anthrax attacks shortly after 911 that scared the crap out of america and enabled the republicans to mold the public mood into a war in Iraq. What fools we were to fall for all that BS. We are now paying the price in blood and treasure and I suspect any victory will resemble defeat even though we will say "we won".

It happened during the Clinton Administration as well. When President Elect Obama takes office here in Jan. and we go seven years with no attacks on our soil, I will commend him as well.

Bush also acted afterwards about the threat of WMD's in Iraq, now people hate his guts. Imagine what it would be like if we dropped bombs on Afghanistan with only the sneaking suspicion that they might fly planes into the World Trade Center?

cut him a little slack he was simply being polite.

if anything the premise that it takes one ethnicity to clean up another's mess is insulting for all involved but that would be parsing words a bit much for someone who is obviously a supporter of the same cause.

its not patronizing it is somber and a sober realization that we as a nation have a lot to deal with.... i would add regardless of the skin of our president.

I understand the want and need to put the pieces back together again--that is not my issue. What troubled me about the apology was that it singled out "Black America" as though every policy and every practice was done with some nefarious intent specifically aimed at Black America. I reject that notion on many levels but worse still was the fact that one cannot apologize on behalf of someone to one group of people without being divisive. Blame Bush for Katrina, for the war, for global warming--hell, cast him in the role of the second shooter that day in Dallas, TX. But remember while so doing that for the past two years it has been a Democratically controlled House and Senate that has approved the funding for this war. President Bush might have the Constitutional authority to send troops into battle (though declaring war is reserved for Congress) but it was Republican and Democrat alike who have funded it. No funding = no war.

Still, thanks for the reply. I like that we can discuss things and that for the most part this group seems to do so rationally. Easy---I said for the most part. :)

-Drew

if reagan could fix carter's mess in 2 years, Obama had better be able to fix it in 4... Carter left in way worse condition than we're in now. inflation and unemploymnent was double what we're currently looking at.