more bible stuff:

And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.--Revelation 17:16

Nice!

If this were a dream then Colin Farrell would be in my kitchen, naked, washing the dishes.

What I meant was, it seemed that you were saying it was possible to dream when you're dead, which is not possible from materialist viewpoint. So did I misunderstand?

Very interesting. That is something that never occurred to me. I can honestly say that that has never happened to me - at least that I recall. I can recall being in a dream and realizing I was in a dream and thus being able to consciously controll what happened in the dream. But I don't recall ever thinking I had awakened and then realizing I was still dreaming. Thanksfor that new insight.

Really? You have never had that happen? Hmm. I cant say its happened very often to me. Maybe only once or twice. Like I thought I had actually risen and gone into the bathroom. Like I say, I attribute it to being under stress like at work or in my personal life. The couple times I remember it happening was during those periods.

My father has Alzheimer's. He was sleeping in his recliner the other day and he woke up and told us that he thought he had gotten up and walked into his bedroom and gone to bed. He had dreamed it. He was surprised to find himself in his chair because he thought he had gone to the bed.

Once he seemed to have seen something happen 10 minutes into the future.

We had taken him to a doctor's appointment and we were in the waiting room. He asked, "Well we may as well go home now, what are we sitting here for?" Then he explained that the nurse had just come in and told us that the doctor would not be in today that he had an emergency."

We told him that did not happen, but he insisted it had just happened a few minutes ago. We just thought he was having a senior event with Alzheimer's. He kept insisting.

Just about five minutes later a nurse did come into the room and told us that very thing almost in the same words Dad said she had.

My mom did not even blink or give it a second thought. I guess she chalked it up as "coincidence."

I was amazed. From then on I began to pay more attention to my father's ramblings. LOL

It's also something they seem to depict in horror films very often where a person thinks they have woken up but have not. Its a pretty common way to scare an audience. The "Freddy Kruger" films come to mind. He was a dream type villain I think but he could actually attack you in dreams. There is also that whole thing about if you see yourself die in a dream, will it actually give you a heart attack and kill you. I remember having feelings of falling but it awakens me before impact. But it definitely felt like falling and not flight.

Once I was dreaming and I actually dreamed that I woke up FIVE TIMES before I finally reached this current dream reality.

I took that dream to mean that this too must be a dream!

After waking up for the fifth time, I looked around and thought to myself,

"Oh NOW I am finally really awake."

But a little voice inside of me asked, ".....or am I?"

I said: "This is reality.....

...or is it?"

Because we dream when we sleep.When we wake up we are no longer dreaming.If we were living in a dream world we could do those crazy things like we do in dreams.You can also fall off things and die in dreams but in real life you just die.

When I am in a dream and find myself able to do physical feats I'd never thought possibile (like flying, moving through barbed wired fences or ricocheting from tree to tree), my witnessing self ALWAYS says something like: "Wow! I could do this all along!?" The answer to my own question is always: "Yes! I KNEW I could do this!"

After I wake up, I'm left with this sense that I AM capable of doing these things and that, at some point, I will. Perhaps not in this current body. Who's to say for sure, really?