Im so tired of this nice guy bullshyt.

Theres a place between being a nice guy and being a dirt bag.

Nice guys know how to treat a woman...they just dont have the testicular fortitude to stand up for themselves. From my experience, women dont want a man who's too sensitive and too easily walked all over.

You dont have to be the "nice guy' to know how to treat a woman. You just gotta learn how be that in between. You can still treat a woman with respect and without having to play the nice guy roll.

Women like to be chased....nice guys dont know how to chase a girl. They're to worried that they may look stupid or may get embarrased. Or may look like an "asshole".

If you want to get to know a girl, then go after her. Dont be afraid, or that guy that who you call an asshole, which really is only the guy that showed some balls and actually went up and talked to her, will get the number you so desperatly want.

Ladies....if im wrong, please correct me. Im just tired of this nice guy bull shyt exuse that all these men want to use in why they are single.

I just have to be myself, I'll let other people decide what they think I am.

like I said in the other thread

we don't really call em nice guys anymore. it's kinda misleading

instead we call em SNAPs (Sensitive New Age Poosies)

Lol...i like that. i didnt see it cause i was to busy writing this rant.

For one thing...that " other thread " had absolutely nothing to do with " nice guy " or not nice guy.

Well this is a totally different thread.

nice guys do suck, i like a guy who says "yeah, baby i'll call you tomorrow" and doesn't do it until the day after tomorrow.. it shows he's interested but not all psycho. nice guys are to easy to get bored with. i want a tough guy who wants to roll around on the floor and make out, nice guys don't want to "wrinkle" their jeans. or a guy who isn't afraid to tell a guy "quit looking down my girlfriend's shirt." boo at nice guys. :P

Thank you....and I like your stars.

Mayhem

..That's a great question Man. I have to agree with ya on allot of your statements! Ya know, it never makes any since does it?
I been around long enough to know what's up, And allot of these women now days are "New Age" and Damn is it tough to warm up to, Especially me. My past relationship with my Ex was 7+ years and now, It's like where in the hell do ya start ya know?

I've already did the Club/Bar thing and that only breaks your wallet anymore, And furthermore, I've went into nice places all dressed up, Looking good and "GOT NOTHING" ...Then the next evening I kept my old dirty work cloths & boots on and was hit on by every damn women in there.

I've found that keeping it real and being very bold with a touch of class gets you the "Mingle" everytime..

But never the less, It all depends on the age to, I feel!
Generally the women who have no kids that are younger, tend to be the ones that flirt their twist all the time..."Generally"
If your in shape and wanna chase them all night that's ok, But being able to be yourself without feeling like you have to change is where it's at man. The Women who do have kids and been crapped on a few times are the ones who seem to be a little more settled down ya know...
And "usually" that's my kinda style...
Not only will the Women be more mature, But the conversation too!!

I've already got a pu$$y ... I don't need another one.

I agree if you want something in this world you have to go after it....nothing ventured, nothing gained.......

nice guys are too busy trying to be somebody.....just be yourself.....

I must not be a nice guy, because I like the idea of rolling around on the floor and making out. As far is fear of telling some guy to stop staring at my girlfriend in a disrespectful way (IE Staring down her shirt) is concerned, I am not afraid to defend my love's honor at all and gladly will... provided she wouldn't want the pleasure herself, even then I could hold the guy down if she wanted.

Lady Luck is gold, She favors the bold. (To quote a song by RUSH )

I want a "nice" guy....by that I mean someone that is NOT "mean".

I also want a Real man....you know the one that can work on vehicles, fix things around the home, lift heavy objects, open the door for me if we are going out, who will stick up for you if someone is being nasty too you.

Just because someone says you are "nice" doesn't mean something bad or insulting regarding your masculanity.

People need to be more specific in their terminology, maybe!

I HAVE to be myself. Who the hell else would I BE?

I agree with you 100% man. Its all about being yourself. You sholdnt be something your not for somebody else.

I just hate hearing these guys whining about not getting theres because they are a so called "nice guy".

thank you i like them too :)

There's the "nice" guy...

There's the "a$$hole" guy...


And then there's the guy in the middle, which I like to call...


the "Great" guy.

He's the package deal. And he's the guy I want!

I don't know where calling a guy nice took over the meaning of wimp.

I don't need a guy that is too wimpy to ask me out or make a play even if it is a little awkward.

I do need a guy that is a nice guy and actually does what he says he is going to do if it is to call the next day and show he is really interested rather than play some kind of hard to get games. I need a guy that sometimes can be a teddy near behind closed doors and share a dream or too with me.

I don't need a guy who is too wimpy to feel a sense of protectiveness for my dignity that he won't stomp some guy for being crude, rude, abusive, or crazy. I don't want to feel alone and vunerable in a violent world.

I do need a guy that is nice enough to not let every contact I have with men be a competition and end up in a fist fight where I have to spend the next couple of weeks nursing battle scars and passing out sympathy ***** which is rarely any fun. I need a nice guy who when the chips are down and his back is against the wall it is me.

I don't need a wimp that puts on a costume that makes him think he is superior to the average joe just because he can throw around a platinum card and spends more time looking in the mirror than I do. I could care less about a sixpack of abs that makes me a gym widow and I sure don't want some guy that is going to ***** because I don't look like an executive Barbie doll.

I do need a nice guy that respects the fact that there is a time and place for everything. Sure he can stop by for nice cold one after work but when I make a special effort to look nice it is expected that he is going to shower, shave, and put on something more than an undershirt and dirty jeans. Making a date is more than just courtesy it is saying your time is valuable and so is mine. I need a nice guy who has a few manners and respect so I don't feel like I have to be one of the guys to get his attention. Sure I can open the car door for myself but it is a compliment to me when a few of the things that say you are special and respected are in the actions. Then it is a lot more likely I am going to feel secure that you are not a player.

I don't need a wimp that lets me use him as a door mat. Or allows me to act like a she-*****. I don't need or want someone I can treat like a child or acts like a child.

I do need a nice guy who will help out once in a while. I need a nice guy that gets that pound for pound I have to work to exhaustion to do what he can often do with ease. I need a nice guy who if he sees me melting down he steps up and shoulders some of the load but expects me to be a partner not a baby. I need a nice guy that says hey these are my methods and I might not be doing it your way but it will work and you are not my mother.

I don't need a wimp Momma's boy who has to please his parent's or get his families approval to see me.

I do need a nice guy that that respects women and shows me how he is going to treat me in the long run by being a respectful son. I need a nice guy who handles his family and respects our decisions and privacy. I won't run to my parents and need a nice guy that won't run to his every time we hit a bump.

I don't need a wimp that can't man up and make his own way in the world. Some looser that is one step ahead of the repo man, has to have a room mate to make ends meet, and still goes to the bank of Dad to get his ass out of a jam, buy a ring. or put a downpayment on a home is pitiful.

I do need a nice guy that maybe can't buy me the Sear Robuck but sees to it if I am struggleing he doesn't let me suffer so he can buy toys. If we go out on a date a nice guy has it covered and I don't have to leave the tip. If he really wants to take me to his bed a nice guy owns it, pay for the roof over it, and paid for the ring he put on my finger rather than copping a freebie so his friends and mine think I am his mistress and it keeps me up late wondering.

I don't need a wimp who can't hold a job. Or has a job he hates and whines about or has to get drunk to forget about. I don't want a guy to weak to make something out of himself and crys about how he can't get a break. I don't need a guy that isn't strong enought to sometimes say family time is a priority.

I do need a nice guy that makes love visable by living with in his means and passing on the toys/thrills that put our financial security at risk. I need a nice guy who gets that doing something well and has a since of pride in what he does so I can be proud of him too. I need a nice guy who gives me what I need and sometimes actually enjoys getting things we want together. I need a nice guy who can have enough forethought to sacrifice a little today so we can weather through the inevitable hard somedays and last for many tomorrows.

I don't need a wimp that is so self centered that he can never think about our children because he is always worrying about his queezy stomache to change a diaper or dishpan hands.

I need a nice guy who loves my kids like his own because their mine and I have made them ours. The word step-child offends him and what he provides he does so from love not accounting. When my parents are old I want a nice guy to respect that they taught me how to be the woman he loves and be gracious as I am to his.

I don't need a wimp that worries and waffles in his confidence about if I am loyal or love him. I don't need a wimp that cares more about a reputation of being a ladies man than being faithful.

I do need a nice guy that makes it easy to want to meet him at the door with a hug and a kiss. I need a guy who appreiates that women's work needs to be as appreciated as what he does. I need a nice guy who has a hunger for me but a gentle hand and knows he is the sun and the moon and the "I love you's" he tells me are the stars in the sky.

So maybe it is all symatics and we are really saying the same thing but I wish being a nice guy is what it really is and the wimps just get passed by.