Topic: WHAT WOULD LIFE BE LIKE WITHOUT RELIGION?
splendidlife's photo
Fri 11/07/08 06:17 PM

humanity would be hurting, art wouldn't exist. I think it would be strange not to recognize anyone or anything for every magical breath, and every thought, it's only logical to seek these things on our own, then die without it, we'll see in the hour of our death.


Yeah, but humanity is already hurting...

Do we have to have religion in order to create art, recognize anyone or anything for every magical breath, and every thought?

tribo's photo
Fri 11/07/08 07:38 PM


humanity would be hurting, art wouldn't exist. I think it would be strange not to recognize anyone or anything for every magical breath, and every thought, it's only logical to seek these things on our own, then die without it, we'll see in the hour of our death.


Yeah, but humanity is already hurting...

Do we have to have religion in order to create art, recognize anyone or anything for every magical breath, and every thought?



yes - bigsmile flowerforyou

Quikstepper's photo
Fri 11/07/08 09:01 PM
Edited by Quikstepper on Fri 11/07/08 09:05 PM





A world without would be a lost world indeedohwell


My lady, if religion or gods never existed, how would one be able to concider themselves lost?


Think of all the STUPID, BAD choices people make on a daily basis...
Most/some of those people don't care or believe in God.
Most good standing citizens are God fearing individuals. They try their best to be the best person they can be...

If we lived in a world that was run by people that had no regard for themselves or others, it would be Chaos!




I rest my case....no God heart leads to "HELL." That's what a world without God would be...HELL.


The question was:

What would life be like without religion?

Your answer makes it seem as though you actually think that God would cease to exist if there was no religion.


No God will always exist...life without HIM would be HELL!

What most don't get is the Russians tried to do away with "religion" for their self serving govt. godless society & it didn't fare well for those people because there was no moral righteousness in govt or their leaders that lead to govt. tryanny...the iron curtain and all that.

Only an honest look at some of the most corrupted human beings who took power would reveal alot about man vs. God. I like my God not only because He made America & blessed us but because He's real. I don't do religion because there is so much more to it than that.

So I guess the OP's premise is really a moot point. For some I suppose religion has no place if they never experienced the REAL thing. No matter, because of the faith of others the blessings are extended to the unbeliever as well.

Be thankful because there is coming a time when you will be crying out for that God that you so love to rebel against.

adj4u's photo
Fri 11/07/08 09:19 PM
the world would have less evil in it without religion

as we all know

organized religion = root of all evil

KoolAidWoman's photo
Fri 11/07/08 10:05 PM
I like this post darling!but without religion.
What would folks have to belive in i suppose nothing about like now.but lots of people.
Are still marrying.im glade that my kids belive.
That way! have some good days!Koolaid flowerforyou

MORBIDLYOBESEARTIST's photo
Sat 11/08/08 12:34 AM
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Yeah, but humanity is already hurting...

Do we have to have religion in order to create art, recognize anyone or anything for every magical breath, and every thought?

MORBIDLYOBESEARTIST's photo
Sat 11/08/08 12:44 AM


humanity would be hurting, art wouldn't exist. I think it would be strange not to recognize anyone or anything for every magical breath, and every thought, it's only logical to seek these things on our own, then die without it, we'll see in the hour of our death.


Yeah, but humanity is already hurting...

Do we have to have religion in order to create art, recognize anyone or anything for every magical breath, and every thought?


God is with the weak, and god is where people are sick and hurting. as long as atrocities and desease and hunger are around, religion will be. It's sad, but those things inspire art and love and a better tomarrow.

splendidlife's photo
Sat 11/08/08 07:04 AM
Edited by splendidlife on Sat 11/08/08 07:26 AM

the world would have less evil in it without religion

as we all know

organized religion = root of all evil


Religion = The Beast


tribo's photo
Sat 11/08/08 07:11 AM
Organized Religion?


what s - "Un-Organized" Religion?

splendidlife's photo
Sat 11/08/08 07:25 AM
Edited by splendidlife on Sat 11/08/08 07:46 AM






A world without would be a lost world indeedohwell


My lady, if religion or gods never existed, how would one be able to concider themselves lost?


Think of all the STUPID, BAD choices people make on a daily basis...
Most/some of those people don't care or believe in God.
Most good standing citizens are God fearing individuals. They try their best to be the best person they can be...

If we lived in a world that was run by people that had no regard for themselves or others, it would be Chaos!




I rest my case....no God heart leads to "HELL." That's what a world without God would be...HELL.


The question was:

What would life be like without religion?

Your answer makes it seem as though you actually think that God would cease to exist if there was no religion.


No God will always exist...life without HIM would be HELL!

What most don't get is the Russians tried to do away with "religion" for their self serving govt. godless society & it didn't fare well for those people because there was no moral righteousness in govt or their leaders that lead to govt. tryanny...the iron curtain and all that.

Only an honest look at some of the most corrupted human beings who took power would reveal alot about man vs. God. I like my God not only because He made America & blessed us but because He's real. I don't do religion because there is so much more to it than that.

So I guess the OP's premise is really a moot point. For some I suppose religion has no place if they never experienced the REAL thing. No matter, because of the faith of others the blessings are extended to the unbeliever as well.

Be thankful because there is coming a time when you will be crying out for that God that you so love to rebel against.


If God will always exist, there is no life without Him...

Even when "He" isn't constantly being acknowledged and exalted (your way or anyone else's way).

Religion doesn't make "him" any more real. If this was true and your Religion somehow kept God as "real", wouldn't this only further indicate your own lack of "faith" in God?

Frankly, I find this idea of Man vs. God quite sophomoric. What is this? Football?

Dude... the world doesn't rely on your religion as the only way to connect to God.

I find your undertone of threat about the coming time of my crying out for He that I so love to rebel against really ludicrous.

The only reason it looks to you as though I rebel is because I won't agree with YOUR WAY.

I rebel against YOUR WAY...

...NOT GOD

Milesoftheusa's photo
Sat 11/08/08 07:39 AM







A world without would be a lost world indeedohwell


My lady, if religion or gods never existed, how would one be able to concider themselves lost?


Think of all the STUPID, BAD choices people make on a daily basis...
Most/some of those people don't care or believe in God.
Most good standing citizens are God fearing individuals. They try their best to be the best person they can be...

If we lived in a world that was run by people that had no regard for themselves or others, it would be Chaos!




I rest my case....no God heart leads to "HELL." That's what a world without God would be...HELL.


The question was:

What would life be like without religion?

Your answer makes it seem as though you actually think that God would cease to exist if there was no religion.


No God will always exist...life without HIM would be HELL!

What most don't get is the Russians tried to do away with "religion" for their self serving govt. godless society & it didn't fare well for those people because there was no moral righteousness in govt or their leaders that lead to govt. tryanny...the iron curtain and all that.

Only an honest look at some of the most corrupted human beings who took power would reveal alot about man vs. God. I like my God not only because He made America & blessed us but because He's real. I don't do religion because there is so much more to it than that.

So I guess the OP's premise is really a moot point. For some I suppose religion has no place if they never experienced the REAL thing. No matter, because of the faith of others the blessings are extended to the unbeliever as well.

Be thankful because there is coming a time when you will be crying out for that God that you so love to rebel against.


If God will always exist, there is no life without Him...

Even when "He" isn't constantly being acknowledged and exalted (your way or anyone else's way).

Religion doesn't make him any more real. If this was true and your Religion somehow kept God as "real", wouldn't this only further indicate your own lack of "faith" in God?

Frankly, I find this idea of Man vs. God quite sophomoric. What is this? Football?

Dude... the world doesn't rely on your religion as the only way to connect to God.

I find your undertone of threat about the coming time of my crying out for He that I so love to rebel against really ludicrous.

The only reason it looks to you as though I rebel is because I won't agree with YOUR WAY.

I rebel against YOUR WAY...

...NOT GOD



I agree it is usually man who does not show an ambassorship to the people that is becoming of the Rightous. I am glad to see logic used. As the scriptures contend to a philosophy of Logic.. Shalom..Miles

splendidlife's photo
Sat 11/08/08 07:44 AM
Edited by splendidlife on Sat 11/08/08 07:49 AM

Organized Religion?


what s - "Un-Organized" Religion?


Hmmmm...

Great question...

I could say that my being habitually late could be viewed as "Un-Organized" Religion.

laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

no photo
Sat 11/08/08 08:10 AM


Organized Religion?


what s - "Un-Organized" Religion?


Hmmmm...

Great question...

I could say that my being habitually late could be viewed as "Un-Organized" Religion.

laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh


it's the lost souls that has not yet been induced into the church collective

they will be assimulated ...resistance is futile ..we are organized religion

no photo
Sat 11/08/08 08:18 AM
Without God there would be no life.No nothing.

iaman's photo
Sat 11/08/08 08:31 AM
A world with no religion at all ?.
This is the kind of world I really love and enjoy . I just follow my common sense , logic and
proof in things . The humanist philosophy is a tremendous help whereas I accept and love humans for themselves and not to get a place in heaven .
Religions created so many wars , much hatred , and lots of pain . A world with no religion is just what humanity really needs . Religion is a sad mixture of politics , business , manipulation ,hypocrisy and control .

iaman's photo
Sat 11/08/08 08:31 AM
Edited by iaman on Sat 11/08/08 08:32 AM
Sorry Folks . Double Post .

Milesoftheusa's photo
Sat 11/08/08 08:50 AM
Without Religion?

All sounds good. Love peace and Harmony.

How can this happen though?

Who is going to make up the tennents by what we live by?

We would always have a group or groups who would feel left out.

In a nation you must have laws/guidelines that the people know they must adhere to.

Our constitution has stood the test of time untill the last 40 years and is broken down in supreme court ruling continually trying to define what or how it affects a particular case.

They have much difficalty in the fase of public opinion.

Yet this was not true i do not believe before the 60's

Why?

Because we used and believed the tenets of the constitution was Elohim based from the Holy Scriptures.


Now through the justice system and this has influenced our Educational system.

We do not have harmony and peace we have the oppisite. We have disorder.

We have our legislators our city councils our powers in Gov. and judges manipulating what our founding forefathers tried thier best to put in our constitution as a failsafe measure not to happen.

Anarchy.

This is where we have gone so many different Idea's. I want things my way cry's anyone who claims they are a minority.

The civil rights act was a great act that happened.

But who knew it would become the basis for a unholy society.

Our constitution was based on the Holy Scriptures that all men are created Equal.

That all men would abide by it's tenets of conduct.

We as we become this unholy nation is falling as just has been said about the finiancial bailout Socialism.

I would suppose this is the life you want to live.

Are you ready to give up your arms in the preface of peace for all men?

Religion plays an important role. This country was founded on it for you to have peace and equality. Using it as a measureing Rod that man for his own selfish desires could not change.

But taking Religion out of the mix as has been happening the last 40 years has bred unequality and hatred not peace.

If Socialism is what you want. Then you are on the right track.. Shalom...Miles

BrandonJItaliano's photo
Sat 11/08/08 09:02 AM



Religion plays an important role. This country was founded on it for you to have peace and equality. Using it as a measureing Rod that man for his own selfish desires could not change.









But the country was founded on Hypocrisy, they were white slave owners who left England so they could be free?


Milesoftheusa's photo
Sat 11/08/08 09:22 AM




Religion plays an important role. This country was founded on it for you to have peace and equality. Using it as a measureing Rod that man for his own selfish desires could not change.









But the country was founded on Hypocrisy, they were white slave owners who left England so they could be free?





What does slave ownership heve to do with today?

We had a war between WHITE men who felt the slaves should be free.

Where do you think they got this idea of freedom from?

The same place that they made our constition from. The Holy Scriptures.

We are not free now. Do you owe money? If so in reality you are a slave. We just have the middle and lower class in debt. Now the upper class has a control over your life.

Now the Govt. has taken a step to own our finicial institutions.

Think you will declare backruptcy against the Govt.? If you fall on hard times.

Lets take April 15th. Do not make your tax payment on time .

1st you get a huge penalty.

2nd you pay 2 to 3 times the interest a bank will charge you at that time.

3rd what happens if you just do not pay your taxes?

The scriptures speak of this. Can our Govt. do this to it's people?

Does this sound like the tax man. Which thier is not even a law on the books to tax the people. It is the Govt. just telling you what you will do.


Matt 18:28-34

28 "But that servant went out and found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred denarii; and he laid hands on him and took him by the throat, saying, 'Pay me what you owe!' 29 So his fellow servant fell down at his feet and begged him, saying, 'Have patience with me, and I will pay you all.' 30 And he would not, but went and threw him into prison till he should pay the debt. 31 So when his fellow servants saw what had been done, they were very grieved, and came and told their master all that had been done. 32 Then his master, after he had called him, said to him, 'You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt because you begged me. 33 Should you not also have had compassion on your fellow servant, just as I had pity on you?' 34 And his master was angry, and delivered him to the torturers until he should pay all that was due to him.
NKJV


This is socialism at it's best.

We were wrong with slaves. But we come to a new land to make every one equal and the civil war tried to correct that. then Women voting then the civil rights act. All these based on the Tenents of the Scriptures that our constitution is based on.

We need to look foward. Looking back to the civil rights act and then seeing where things went haywire and correcting things would be a good start.

Now as it stands anyone can be declared an enemy of the state picked up and held for years. We are allowing this because we have lost our roots. and the Socialists are moving end making you believe religion is your enemy. When you should be uniteing and looking at the constitution for what it is.

A tenet of rules for the good of mankind and this nation founded on the principles of the Holy Scriptures.. Blessings...Miles

Quikstepper's photo
Sat 11/08/08 09:13 PM
Edited by Quikstepper on Sat 11/08/08 09:14 PM







A world without would be a lost world indeedohwell


My lady, if religion or gods never existed, how would one be able to concider themselves lost?


Think of all the STUPID, BAD choices people make on a daily basis...
Most/some of those people don't care or believe in God.
Most good standing citizens are God fearing individuals. They try their best to be the best person they can be...

If we lived in a world that was run by people that had no regard for themselves or others, it would be Chaos!




I rest my case....no God heart leads to "HELL." That's what a world without God would be...HELL.


The question was:

What would life be like without religion?

Your answer makes it seem as though you actually think that God would cease to exist if there was no religion.


No God will always exist...life without HIM would be HELL!

What most don't get is the Russians tried to do away with "religion" for their self serving govt. godless society & it didn't fare well for those people because there was no moral righteousness in govt or their leaders that lead to govt. tryanny...the iron curtain and all that.

Only an honest look at some of the most corrupted human beings who took power would reveal alot about man vs. God. I like my God not only because He made America & blessed us but because He's real. I don't do religion because there is so much more to it than that.

So I guess the OP's premise is really a moot point. For some I suppose religion has no place if they never experienced the REAL thing. No matter, because of the faith of others the blessings are extended to the unbeliever as well.

Be thankful because there is coming a time when you will be crying out for that God that you so love to rebel against.


If God will always exist, there is no life without Him...

Even when "He" isn't constantly being acknowledged and exalted (your way or anyone else's way).

Religion doesn't make "him" any more real. If this was true and your Religion somehow kept God as "real", wouldn't this only further indicate your own lack of "faith" in God?

Frankly, I find this idea of Man vs. God quite sophomoric. What is this? Football?

Dude... the world doesn't rely on your religion as the only way to connect to God.

I find your undertone of threat about the coming time of my crying out for He that I so love to rebel against really ludicrous.

The only reason it looks to you as though I rebel is because I won't agree with YOUR WAY.

I rebel against YOUR WAY...

...NOT GOD



What ever...you asked the question & I answered it. Sorry that you don't like the answer.

It's just too easy for some to believe in some unattainable god that they can conjure up in their minds than deal with the One who created them...huh?