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Topic: GOOD AND EVIL ??
Krimsa's photo
Fri 09/12/08 10:01 PM
Okay I gotta sleep okay and my back is killing me. Goodnight.

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 09/12/08 10:07 PM

Okay I gotta sleep okay and my back is killing me. Goodnight.
laugh Same here.flowerforyou


flowers Goodnight and sweetdreamsflowers

Krimsa's photo
Sat 09/13/08 03:33 AM
Edited by Krimsa on Sat 09/13/08 03:34 AM
You could actually apply that same thought to modern culture. Like just imagine what the US could be doing now if we were not funneling millions of dollars and resources (including human lives) into Iraq. Where could that time, energy, money be going other than into that situation. I kind of hope we get out of that soon. I also worry what will happen once we leave and will it just become a massacre if all of these various factions (religious and political) move in. Im guessing the fastest we can be out would be over a 6 months period so we can slowly withdraw and leave a presence. whoa

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 09/13/08 11:22 AM

You could actually apply that same thought to modern culture. Like just imagine what the US could be doing now if we were not funneling millions of dollars and resources (including human lives) into Iraq. Where could that time, energy, money be going other than into that situation. I kind of hope we get out of that soon. I also worry what will happen once we leave and will it just become a massacre if all of these various factions (religious and political) move in. Im guessing the fastest we can be out would be over a 6 months period so we can slowly withdraw and leave a presence. whoa
:banana: good point:banana:

Plainome's photo
Sat 09/13/08 11:33 AM
If I were to use the Bible to make a point of truth.........

I would argue that outside of "man" there is no "good" or "evil". We were "made to know" good and evil, as in made to know what pain is. Pain doesn't exist outside of the body. If you want to mention mental/spiritual pain, they only exist when there is a lack of harmony or a lack of understanding.

In essence you can't know one without the other......the only way to live in "peace" imo is to cater to neither.

(I know I'm not explaing this correctly.)

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 09/13/08 01:02 PM

If I were to use the Bible to make a point of truth.........

I would argue that outside of "man" there is no "good" or "evil". We were "made to know" good and evil, as in made to know what pain is. Pain doesn't exist outside of the body. If you want to mention mental/spiritual pain, they only exist when there is a lack of harmony or a lack of understanding.

In essence you can't know one without the other......the only way to live in "peace" imo is to cater to neither.

(I know I'm not explaing this correctly.)
flowers interestingflowers

splendidlife's photo
Sun 09/14/08 09:33 AM

If I were to use the Bible to make a point of truth.........

I would argue that outside of "man" there is no "good" or "evil". We were "made to know" good and evil, as in made to know what pain is. Pain doesn't exist outside of the body. If you want to mention mental/spiritual pain, they only exist when there is a lack of harmony or a lack of understanding.

In essence you can't know one without the other......the only way to live in "peace" imo is to cater to neither.

(I know I'm not explaing this correctly.)


It seems to this reader as though you've explained quite clearly and concisely (makes complete sense here).

Does it seem "not correct" to you because you doubt your own words or does it seem so because you doubt how others will hear?

I would guess the later.

davidben1's photo
Sun 09/14/08 12:50 PM
Edited by davidben1 on Sun 09/14/08 12:55 PM

If I were to use the Bible to make a point of truth.........

I would argue that outside of "man" there is no "good" or "evil". We were "made to know" good and evil, as in made to know what pain is. Pain doesn't exist outside of the body. If you want to mention mental/spiritual pain, they only exist when there is a lack of harmony or a lack of understanding.

In essence you can't know one without the other......the only way to live in "peace" imo is to cater to neither.

(I know I'm not explaing this correctly.)


indeed wisdom of greater truth from the source that created all the universe.........

indeed the mind give all equasions, and the heart see clearly the rest of the story, and when all is as birthed, as all life and wisdom are, and hath grown into the tree of all wisdom, wisdom know the whole creation of itself, which lead to the knowing of the pure creation of all others, and even the knowing of the creation of the universe that it once completed........

for as mankind of each cycle hath created all, and mortal life hide the memory, the spark of inspiration that ignite the heart to fire of greater truth, in the time of destiny of all truth, wisdom is poured from the cup of all wisdom the heart, and released from the distant voice of memories of the heart, in the silent and still of the closets the heart, and fountains from the same place where the words of the poster come from spring forth to create the new beginning of all wisdom, that create all things anew......

and as the heart that swam the channel thru into mortality, that came hence from all bliss, and all peace, and all unity, and all perfectness, now come to the "middle", to the place called earth, the womb of all wisdom, to learn the opposite of all it once was, all it once seen, and all it once tasted, all it once felt, to create points of reference, created from feeling and living an opposite, all truths coming from and thru the ambilical cord that tie each to it's origin, that whiper how to return, and the knowing of all truth of onself, that create knowing as stones one on the other, and the keys of the piano the mind of good and bad expereince, that were once keys all things as marked with black as bad, and white as good, are turned to ivory keys, and the piano the mind of knowledge is played, no longer with bias off emotions, leading to the return of each back as a child returned to bliss, now having passed thru mortality, now becoming as an adult having wisdom, back to it's origin, and graduation into eternity thru the heart of wisdom as into the depths of sight of the heart THRU the mind, now tunnel back to it's father it's own greater creation, ITSELF........

davidben1's photo
Sun 09/14/08 01:58 PM


If I were to use the Bible to make a point of truth.........

I would argue that outside of "man" there is no "good" or "evil". We were "made to know" good and evil, as in made to know what pain is. Pain doesn't exist outside of the body. If you want to mention mental/spiritual pain, they only exist when there is a lack of harmony or a lack of understanding.

In essence you can't know one without the other......the only way to live in "peace" imo is to cater to neither.

(I know I'm not explaing this correctly.)
flowers interestingflowers


in your text "jesus" called it as "surrender"......

it is not only written in the professions of prophecy of the playbook of mankind....

tom petty called it freefallin......

robert plant called it the stairway to heaven....

pink floyd called it the comfortably numb....

peter gabriel called it steamtrain.....

paul called it a prisoner of christ....

jesus called it "not my will but yours"....

john lennon called it imagination of no heaven and no hell........

it was once interpreted thru dyanetics.....

it was once interpreted thru buddism.....

it was once interpreted thru christianity.....

it was once interpreted thru catholism......

it was once called as neither hot nor cold....

it was once called as ying and yang.....

it was once called as forsaking ones life to gain it by jesus.......

is it not all of one and one of all.....




Krimsa's photo
Sun 09/14/08 05:50 PM
Oh gosh I was under the delusion that "freefallin" was something so totally different. happy :wink:

Plainome's photo
Sun 09/14/08 06:48 PM
Edited by Plainome on Sun 09/14/08 06:49 PM


If I were to use the Bible to make a point of truth.........

I would argue that outside of "man" there is no "good" or "evil". We were "made to know" good and evil, as in made to know what pain is. Pain doesn't exist outside of the body. If you want to mention mental/spiritual pain, they only exist when there is a lack of harmony or a lack of understanding.

In essence you can't know one without the other......the only way to live in "peace" imo is to cater to neither.

(I know I'm not explaing this correctly.)


It seems to this reader as though you've explained quite clearly and concisely (makes complete sense here).

Does it seem "not correct" to you because you doubt your own words or does it seem so because you doubt how others will hear?

I would guess the later.


I think......I doubt it because I get caught up in my own thinking....and am not sure that others follow it........but I suppose some of u have, so it does make sense. I have a thing about just because something makes logical sense/is true to me doesn't mean it will be to anyone else....or that they won't necessarily understand it the same way I do......

Thx, david, I had never considered that is what they were talking about.....this way of thinking is relatively new to me, only two-three years.

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