Does that mean you will never come back to America?

Well madison what could cause those explosions? You realize that these buildings all have gas lines right? And the video of the collapse where you can see crap blowing out of the windows underneath the upper part of the building. you realize when a building is collapsing everything above is coming down. pressure pockets form and blow out the windows along with whats in those rooms. The building collapse due to structural failure which was caused by the jet fuel. Are you going to say bin laden's video about the attack where he claimed to have known the amount of jet fuel burning on top of structural damage caused by the impact would cause towers 1 and 2 to collapse was made up too? Oh and the buildings designer saying that those factors would have caused the towers to come down, u saying that our government told him to say that? You realize they bombed the building in 93 and there was little damage because it was a van packed with explosives. Compare that to two planes loaded with fuel that has the heat capacity to melt steel that crash into the buildings at 400 and 500+ mph and the weight of almost the entire top halves of the building on top of that? That really sounds like a conspiracy.

Yes, they have electricity, 40% unemployment, farmers that are taxed into oblivion, average annual wages of $6,000, a government that is dragging the country into oblivion and in bed with Chavez as a result of the US ending their financial aid to that money pit of a government, but they have beautiful women and it is a very beautiful country. Argentina is a beautiful little country and many Americans are retiring there because they can live very well on what they receive from social security. Argentinians are very friendly people...... most of them anyway.

Sorry but Eli is better than Peyton. Plus he had a better NCAA career at ole miss than Peyton did at Tennessee...

Oh and by the way I may not have been accepted due to myself being an exceptional white student but still....GO GATORS! lol. A few of my friends from Tampa play for the Gators.

You guys ROCK!!! Now kiss, hug, and make up.

Im not going to go off topic in this thread and its getting late I will start one for the great debate of 911 tomorrow

You mentioned the mass graves. Do you remember that those thousands of people were buried alive with bulldozers? People seem to forget. Yet we should have looked the other way like the rest of the ball-less countries?

I really do enjoy debate and I look forward to the topic tomorrow. I wont let myself get out of line like tonight. Friends everyone?

No we are America...like an exterminator, we are hired by the rest of the world to clean out these hornets nests we call countries...

Ok well it is almost 1:30am here and I need to be up in the morning so I will say goodnight and it was great talking to everyone.

GWB isnt the monster.
the damn monsters are under the bed and in the shadows.



NOPE...not guilty

Robert H. Jackson
Chief of Counsel for the United States
Nuremberg, Germany
November 21, 1945

May it please Your Honors:

The privilege of opening the first trial in history for crimes against the peace of the world imposes a grave responsibility. The wrongs which we seek to condemn and punish have been so calculated, so malignant, and so devastating, that civilization cannot tolerate their being ignored, because it cannot survive their being repeated. That four great nations, flushed with victory and stung with injury stay the hand of vengeance and voluntarily submit their captive enemies to the judgment of the law is one of the most significant tributes that Power has ever paid to Reason.

This Tribunal, while it is novel and experimental, is not the product of abstract speculations nor is it created to vindicate legalistic theories. This inquest represents the practical effort of four of the most mighty of nations, with the support of 17 more, to utilize international law to meet the greatest menace of our times-aggressive war. The common sense of mankind demands that law shall not stop with the punishment of petty crimes by little people. It must also reach men who possess themselves of great power and make deliberate and concerted use of it to set in motion evils which. leave no home in the world untouched. It is a cause of that magnitude that the United Nations will lay before Your Honors.
http://www.roberthjackson.org/Man/theman2-7-8-1/

Grape Nut ice cream? Wow learner! That is hard core man!

double post

Washington, Jun 10 - Dennis J. Kucinich of Ohio
In the United States House of Representatives
Monday, June 9th, 2008
A Resolution

INDEX

Article I
Creating a Secret Propaganda Campaign to Manufacture a False Case for War Against Iraq.

Article II
Falsely, Systematically, and with Criminal Intent Conflating the Attacks of September 11, 2001, With Misrepresentation of Iraq as a Security Threat as Part of Fraudulent Justification for a War of Aggression.

Article III
Misleading the American People and Members of Congress to Believe Iraq Possessed Weapons of Mass Destruction, to Manufacture a False Case for War.

Article IV
Misleading the American People and Members of Congress to Believe Iraq Posed an Imminent Threat to the United States.

Article V
Illegally Misspending Funds to Secretly Begin a War of Aggression.

Article VI
Invading Iraq in Violation of the Requirements of H. J. Res114.

Article VII
Invading Iraq Absent a Declaration of War.

Article VIII
Invading Iraq, A Sovereign Nation, in Violation of the UN Charter.

Article IX
Failing to Provide Troops With Body Armor and Vehicle Armor.

Article X
Falsifying Accounts of US Troop Deaths and Injuries for Political Purposes.

Article XI
Establishment of Permanent U.S. Military Bases in Iraq.

Article XII
Initiating a War Against Iraq for Control of That Nation's Natural Resources.

Article XIIII
Creating a Secret Task Force to Develop Energy and Military Policies With Respect to Iraq and Other Countries.

Article XIV
Misprision of a Felony, Misuse and Exposure of Classified Information And Obstruction of Justice in the Matter of Valerie Plame Wilson, Clandestine Agent of the Central Intelligence Agency.

Article XV
Providing Immunity from Prosecution for Criminal Contractors in Iraq.

Article XVI
Reckless Misspending and Waste of U.S. Tax Dollars in Connection With Iraq and US Contractors.

Article XVII
Illegal Detention: Detaining Indefinitely And Without Charge Persons Both U.S. Citizens and Foreign Captives.

Article XVIII
Torture: Secretly Authorizing, and Encouraging the Use of Torture Against Captives in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Other Places, as a Matter of Official Policy.

Article XIX
Rendition: Kidnapping People and Taking Them Against Their Will to "Black Sites" Located in Other Nations, Including Nations Known to Practice Torture.

Article XX
Imprisoning Children.

Article XXI
Misleading Congress and the American People About Threats from Iran, and Supporting Terrorist Organizations Within Iran, With the Goal of Overthrowing the Iranian Government.

Article XXII
Creating Secret Laws.

Article XXIII
Violation of the Posse Comitatus Act.

Article XXIV
Spying on American Citizens, Without a Court-Ordered Warrant, in Violation of the Law and the Fourth Amendment.

Article XXV
Directing Telecommunications Companies to Create an Illegal and Unconstitutional Database of the Private Telephone Numbers and Emails of American Citizens.

Article XXVI
Announcing the Intent to Violate Laws with Signing Statements.

Article XXVII
Failing to Comply with Congressional Subpoenas and Instructing Former Employees Not to Comply.

Article XXVIII
Tampering with Free and Fair Elections, Corruption of the Administration of Justice.

Article XXIX
Conspiracy to Violate the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

Article XXX
Misleading Congress and the American People in an Attempt to Destroy Medicare.

Article XXXI
Katrina: Failure to Plan for the Predicted Disaster of Hurricane Katrina, Failure to Respond to a Civil Emergency.

Article XXXII
Misleading Congress and the American People, Systematically Undermining Efforts to Address Global Climate Change.

Article XXXIII
Repeatedly Ignored and Failed to Respond to High Level Intelligence Warnings of Planned Terrorist Attacks in the US, Prior to 911.

Article XXXIV
Obstruction of the Investigation into the Attacks of September 11, 2001.

Article XXXV
Endangering the Health of 911 First Responders.

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ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT FOR PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH

Resolved, that President George W. Bush be impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors, and that the following articles of impeachment be exhibited to the United States Senate:

Articles of impeachment exhibited by the House of Representatives of the United States of America in the name of itself and of the people of the United States of America, in maintenance and support of its impeachment against President George W. Bush for high crimes and misdemeanors.

In his conduct while President of the United States, George W. Bush, in violation of his constitutional oath to faithfully execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has committed the following abuses of power.

_____________

ARTICLE I

CREATING A SECRET PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN TO MANUFACTURE A FALSE CASE FOR WAR AGAINST IRAQ

In his conduct while President of the United States, George W. Bush, in violation of his constitutional oath to faithfully execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty under Article II, Section 3 of the Constitution "to take care that the laws be faithfully executed," has both personally and acting through his agents and subordinates, together with the Vice President, illegally spent public dollars on a secret propaganda program to manufacture a false cause for war against Iraq.

The Department of Defense (DOD) has engaged in a years-long secret domestic propaganda campaign to promote the invasion and occupation of Iraq. This secret program was defended by the White House Press Secretary following its exposure. This program follows the pattern of crimes detailed in Article I, II, IV and VIII. The mission of this program placed it within the field controlled by the White House Iraq Group (WHIG), a White House task force formed in August 2002 to market an invasion of Iraq to the American people. The group included Karl Rove, I. Lewis Libby, Condoleezza Rice, Karen Hughes, Mary Matalin, Stephen Hadley, Nicholas E. Calio, and James http://kucinich.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=93581

tell ya what madi. lets see how it goes once the troops are out of iraq. theyre barbarians and as such will tear themselves apart. the 4000 men weve lost are a fair trade for the hundreds of thousands of terrorist scum we buried. and since were over there, theyre not over here killing YOU, and be heading YOU on TV. because they dont care what you think. they dont care that you want them free and happy and dont like GWB. they just dont care. they never have either and until the young ones with a yearning to learn and grow and one day be a civilized country take charge, they never will.

I expect another strongman to emerge eventualy and hold the country together like Saddam did, after all it was our invasion that tore the country to hell and our occupation that keeps it there

I feel like I am getting a Enima when I read some of these posts

lol. it almost sounds liek you liked saddam madison. lol