"i got 33 reasons and crosswords ain't one"

if this guy couldn't be polite and fun and
just keep his mouth shut and pray to god (silently)
for lilith to be the slighest bit interested
in him...

well - he fails the IQ test. sorry.

even if he is an idiot-savant!

Ha!

S1ow..... that was FUNNY.

Fran, I agree it might be a waste of time. Okay it most likely IS a waste of time. But I sleep at night.

"Okay, after reading all of this, I do agree that you were treated wrong. However, it seems to me that he had a rough time growing up, or something drastic happened, like parents treated him bad or people picked on him at school...etc. He NEEDS that reassurance. He is very insecure about himself. I'm insecure myself, so it's easy for me to say where he is coming from. At the same time, he doesn't have to do a lot of the stuff he is doing. If he cared about you, he would talk to you too and not be as selfish. Have you ever been straight up before and tell him how he is acting? I think a letter (a nice letter) would be the best. I really hope this helps. It's really hard for guys who are insecure about themselves to be in relationships. And a lot of them ARE very selfish and self-centered. Luckily I wasn't. I hope this helps you. Talk to you later, "

-Matthew













FIRST OF All LILITH does not have to justify her actons, the guy was a ass/jerk.

If men which to be treated like men then they need to act like one, she should not have to send a nice letter explaining his action and faults, if he is ready for a grown up relationship then act like it. This is real life not high school. The items he did on a first date was far from being a man and far away from being a gentlemen. We all been down that road and know our strenghts and weakness, but it does not give you the right to insult someone you just meant that is trying to maybe start a relationship with you.

Yes women have their moments but us true men will just turn the cheek and move on lesson learn.

She had went beyond what she should of. My hats off to you Lilith

So MR Matthew if you need a women to explain to you how to act, I thinks it is time to grow up.

Lilith is a good women and Lily I stand by them if anyone has a problem then come talk to me.

There are alot of good women and men on this site, but there are also the other types that need to face reality.


I know I dont need to defend you Lilith but I dislike shallow minds.


for you

Mrtap.... aww shucks you are such a sweetie.
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I've been asked (by a couple people) if this was the same guy I talked about several weeks ago. Yes, it is. Here is my post on that...



http://mingle2.com/topic/show/148877?page=13

Was I TOTALLY wrong? Yes, I was. But I still had a wonderful time on that date.

Hey no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater I say. You can still have had fun before .. oh ya babyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy


((( Lilith )))

Happy Friday's Eve Day

Oh yes, thank you very much. I am soooo looking forward to tomorrow!

If you had fun that is what it is about. hindsight is 20/20 I least you had one good.

No, thre were two good dates before the drama started. That's not bad, I say...

Depends on what you want babe. You seem kinda demanding.

I think that about covers it....

Seriously -- I am forever amazed by the number of these types out there, AND by the fact that so many of us (who really -- let's admit it -- should know better) keep "finding" them. I could tell you stories about the three I met in 2006 and the ramifications thereof, but it's not pleasant and you get the idea anyway.

Lilith, you of ALL people certainly deserve better, and that's something I rarely (like once every 70 years) say to ANYONE.

I still think you're the most intelligent person on this site, and I'm glad you disentangled yourself from this uberloser before things went any farther!

Now, let's be careful out there....

LMFAO! Yes, I suppose you could say that. I want a considerate, intelligent, attractive man who's head is not up his arse. Does that make me demanding???

Yes, dear. As usual, you are right. This is actually a new situation for me, usually they are just whackadoo right from the get go. This one played it out a bit. Now I want to know, as a writer, how did I do? Feedback....please.

I guess that would depend on what you have in mind. I'd be kind of scared of saying the wrong thing

I agree with Peccy, why waste your time, life's to short to make a list of everything wrong with him. He probably just won't get it anyway. Just put his bags to the left and walk,better luck next time. Live and learn, right?

That was Angel's advice, actually.

I did explain why I did it.... in detail. Thank you for the well wishes, I was over it once I sent it. It was my closure.

One of the things I have always loved about your writing is the way you can be very blunt without lowering yourself to the level of the bluntedness target. There is something to be said for being not only clear and concise, but pointed as well.

Having said that, I suspect that this particular list will actually do you much more good than it will him -- he is pretty much "beyond repair" (or remorse, or contemplation, or anything beyond the basics of sensory input, from the sound of it) -- so I presume it's more cathartic than reparative, in the long term.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. I just feel that it's SO well-written that it's largely going to be wasted on the wasted, as I like to say. The gap between "what I write" and "what actually sinks in," so to speak.

You, of course, will simply need to find someone who appreciates the nuances as well as the sheer directitude of your missives.

But we here, we are going to run across this sort of gap. I had someone call me "bitter" last night -- which I suppose could be one interpretation, assuming one knew nothing about my life, my writing, my alleged sense of humor, etc. -- context is everything. Take the words out of the context, and they may -- almost certainly will -- end up being read as something other than that which was intended.

I suspect that your "friend" simply never had the cranial capacity to grasp your context. Which is a true loss for him -- because, contextually speaking, you are as good as it gets....

Wow...I could'nt have written it better myself...

Lexy.... thank you. I so adore you. I do agree it was only cathartic for me, but there is a glimmer of hope he will grasp it at some level.

I suspect anyone who calls you bitter is not perceptive. I saw you as a teddy bear I wanted to squeeze from almost day one.

Many of days I have contemplated my not fitting your preferences..... but never have I regretted that I get the chance to be your friend. That to me, is priceless. I still recall the mail I sent you where I told you how glad I was that I got to count you in as part of my life's journey.

I AM SORRY FOR ANYONE THAT HAS TO ENDURE THIS!!!!


now you must look into your own heart and.....


forgive him!!!!!


no NOT for him, but for yourself......so you can move on with open eyes and heart!!!!

Oh, I don't care enough to need to forgive him. I'm already over it.... the letter closed it up in a nice little envelope, mailed an hour north.

I am happily searching again, knowing the next guy is a new, fresh, and hopeful experience.

Thank you so much for your post.