Topic: Mc Cain picks Alaska Governor Palin
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Mon 09/01/08 10:20 AM

laugh Sarah Palin just admitted that her 17 year old daughter is pregnant laugh LOLlaugh

Not funny. This is a 17 y/o. Regardless of what any parent tries to teach their child, things can and do happen.

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Mon 09/01/08 10:28 AM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Mon 09/01/08 10:29 AM


laugh Sarah Palin just admitted that her 17 year old daughter is pregnant laugh LOLlaugh

Not funny. This is a 17 y/o. Regardless of what any parent tries to teach their child, things can and do happen.
laugh Maybe she should be paying more attention to her childrenlaugh

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Mon 09/01/08 10:28 AM


laugh Sarah Palin just admitted that her 17 year old daughter is pregnant laugh LOLlaugh

Not funny. This is a 17 y/o. Regardless of what any parent tries to teach their child, things can and do happen.
laugh I never thought I would hear republicans defending nude pictures and teen pregnancylaugh

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Mon 09/01/08 12:35 PM



laugh Sarah Palin just admitted that her 17 year old daughter is pregnant laugh LOLlaugh

Not funny. This is a 17 y/o. Regardless of what any parent tries to teach their child, things can and do happen.
laugh Maybe she should be paying more attention to her childrenlaugh


I'm afraid I have to agree with this point. The choice to run at this time, tossing her kid to the sharks,isn't going to win any points with mothers.

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Mon 09/01/08 12:36 PM



laugh Sarah Palin just admitted that her 17 year old daughter is pregnant laugh LOLlaugh

Not funny. This is a 17 y/o. Regardless of what any parent tries to teach their child, things can and do happen.
laugh I never thought I would hear republicans defending nude pictures and teen pregnancylaugh


Mirror, any links to more information on the nude pictures? I find it hard to believe she could have made it this far it it were true.

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Mon 09/01/08 12:41 PM
I am thinking this will be a victory for those that want to keep women at home. I do believe women can do it all, but timing is crucial. I feel sorry for her kids, especially poor Bristol. I hope she is as strong as her mother & can edure this. I really hope the media leaves her alone & she can have a healthy & uneventful pregnancy & a healthy baby.

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Mon 09/01/08 12:56 PM




laugh Sarah Palin just admitted that her 17 year old daughter is pregnant laugh LOLlaugh

Not funny. This is a 17 y/o. Regardless of what any parent tries to teach their child, things can and do happen.
laugh I never thought I would hear republicans defending nude pictures and teen pregnancylaugh


Mirror, any links to more information on the nude pictures? I find it hard to believe she could have made it this far it it were true.
flowerforyou The pictures exist because Palin has admited to smoking pot and taking nude pics in the past but nobody has confirmed them YET.A lot of rumors that someone out there has them offering to the highest bidder.flowerforyou

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Mon 09/01/08 01:00 PM
I will keep looking with great interest. flowerforyou

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Mon 09/01/08 02:09 PM

I will keep looking with great interest. flowerforyou
flowerforyou To be honest with you ,I think Im already about tired of talking about this stuffflowerforyou It was only funny for a day or twoflowerforyou

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Tue 09/02/08 04:19 AM
From a Time magazine blog:

"Another week, another (Republican pollster) Frank Luntz/AARP focus group of undecided voters--this one in Minneapolis and with some bad news for John McCain: they don't like the choice of Sarah Palin for vice president."

"They had a negative impression of Palin by a 2-1 margin."

"I"m wondering where the John McCain I really liked in 2000 went, what happened to the moderate?"

"They really saw this pick as a gimmick--and one that reflected badly on John McCain's judgment."

http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/08/focusedthe_sequel.html

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Tue 09/02/08 11:22 AM


I will keep looking with great interest. flowerforyou
flowerforyou To be honest with you ,I think Im already about tired of talking about this stuffflowerforyou It was only funny for a day or twoflowerforyou

This isn't funny, it's scarey & sad.

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Tue 09/02/08 01:10 PM



I will keep looking with great interest. flowerforyou
flowerforyou To be honest with you ,I think Im already about tired of talking about this stuffflowerforyou It was only funny for a day or twoflowerforyou

This isn't funny, it's scarey & sad.
:smile: I agree its sad alright that calling people muslims and pregnant daughter and stupid stuff like that is what its all come down to.:smile:

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Tue 09/02/08 07:08 PM




I will keep looking with great interest. flowerforyou
flowerforyou To be honest with you ,I think Im already about tired of talking about this stuffflowerforyou It was only funny for a day or twoflowerforyou

This isn't funny, it's scarey & sad.
:smile: I agree its sad alright that calling people muslims and pregnant daughter and stupid stuff like that is what its all come down to.:smile:


IMO, it is human nature to be afraid of what you don't understand, and relish it when the righteous fall. It is also human nature to try to impose our beliefs on others. We're only doing what comes naturally! flowerforyou

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Wed 09/03/08 11:43 AM





I will keep looking with great interest. flowerforyou
flowerforyou To be honest with you ,I think Im already about tired of talking about this stuffflowerforyou It was only funny for a day or twoflowerforyou

This isn't funny, it's scarey & sad.
:smile: I agree its sad alright that calling people muslims and pregnant daughter and stupid stuff like that is what its all come down to.:smile:


IMO, it is human nature to be afraid of what you don't understand, and relish it when the righteous fall. It is also human nature to try to impose our beliefs on others. We're only doing what comes naturally! flowerforyou


*sigh* True, It's so disapointing that our "leaders" are not trying to overcome these childess tendancies. I can see Mc Cain at a G8 meeting screaming "MINE" & bopping someone on the head.

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Wed 09/03/08 11:58 AM

I'm afraid I have to agree with this point. The choice to run at this time, tossing her kid to the sharks,isn't going to win any points with mothers.


Attacking children of political candidates is unacceptable. Al Gore's son was busted multiple times for selling drugs and Republicans never made any political hay with that. Chelsea Clinton belonged to a weird cult that worshiped some dude who dresses like an angel, nobody made any hay with that. Why should Sarah Palin's career suffer because some people are so despicable that they would attack a 17 year old and a 1.5 year old? Such people have a voice because of the internet, but all right thinking people should ignore them.

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Wed 09/03/08 01:46 PM
So, Republicans have been preaching abstinence and making moral judgments about the worth of teen aged pregnant poor people, especially people of color, for years.

Now huzzah! We have a teen aged white girl who is pregnant and her pregnancy is off limits?

Funny isn't it that the republicans are asking the people of the United States to respect her privacy in regards to her choices about reproduction but they want the government to be able to limit my choices and privacy.

Hypocrites!~

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Wed 09/03/08 01:51 PM

So, Republicans have been preaching abstinence and making moral judgments about the worth of teen aged pregnant poor people, especially people of color, for years.

Now huzzah! We have a teen aged white girl who is pregnant and her pregnancy is off limits?

Funny isn't it that the republicans are asking the people of the United States to respect her privacy in regards to her choices about reproduction but they want the government to be able to limit my choices and privacy.

Hypocrites!~


Preaching abstinence. CHECK
Making moral judgments about the worth of teen aged pregnant poor people, especially people of color, for years. Um...what? You are going to have to back that up. Sounds like race baiting to me. "It's okay for us to make fun of this girl, because you are racists!!!!!!" Back it up or drop it, okay?

Do you have proof that this girl preached abstinence? If not, then no hypocrisy.

This young girl has nothing to do with her mother's position as McCains VP. Her actions and choices should not condemn her mother.

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Wed 09/03/08 02:20 PM
Her mother's well defined position is that abstinence only be taught in public schools.

In court, once a door to a subject, let's say the character of a defendant is opened by the defendants council, the prosecutor can then address the issue as fair game and ask questions and bring whitenesses to attest to that issue.

Palin opened the door by publicly stating and supporting abstinence only programs.

As for republicans condemning poor teen aged mothers of all colors go reread some speeches and comments made regarding the need for welfare reform.

I didn't call anyone a racist.

You pulled that card and personalized your posting putting words in my mouth. I won't do it.

My point was this: Funny isn't it that the republicans are asking the people of the United States to respect her privacy in regards to her choices about reproduction but they want the government to be able to limit my choices and privacy.


Taking the matter of her inability to manage her own teen aged daughter off the table there are many more reasons to see Palin as unfit.


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Wed 09/03/08 02:32 PM

Her mother's well defined position is that abstinence only be taught in public schools.


Okay.


In court, once a door to a subject, let's say the character of a defendant is opened by the defendants council, the prosecutor can then address the issue as fair game and ask questions and bring whitenesses to attest to that issue.

Palin opened the door by publicly stating and supporting abstinence only programs.


This still has nothing to do with her daughter. Her daughter had sex, that has nothing to do with Sarah Palin. Unless you are faulting her for allowing her daughter to be away from the home without a chaperone, I don't see your point.


As for republicans condemning poor teen aged mothers of all colors go reread some speeches and comments made regarding the need for welfare reform.


Now it's "of all colors" but before it was "especially people of color". I don't blame you, I would back off from that too.

I think welfare reform is necessary and a good thing, if you don't, then we will just have to disagree.


I didn't call anyone a racist.


No, you strongly implied it though.


You pulled that card and personalized your posting putting words in my mouth. I won't do it.


No, you did.

"So, Republicans have been preaching abstinence and making moral judgments about the worth of teen aged pregnant poor people, especially people of color, for years. "

"We have a teen aged white girl who is pregnant and her pregnancy is off limits"

Yeah, that's called race baiting. Sorry if that's not how you intended it, but surely you can admit that if nothing else your words have a clear appearance of race baiting.


My point was this: Funny isn't it that the republicans are asking the people of the United States to respect her privacy in regards to her choices about reproduction but they want the government to be able to limit my choices and privacy.


What do you mean "choices and privacy"? What does that have to do with respecting this young woman's privacy? You want your privacy respected, but to hell with Sarah Palin's daughter's privacy? When you said "Hypocrite" earlier, were you looking in a mirror by any chance?


Taking the matter of her inability to manage her own teen aged daughter off the table there are many more reasons to see Palin as unfit.


Do you have any teenaged children? Were you a teenager? Unless your parents kept you locked in your room, I'm sure that you did plenty of things they wouldn't have approved of. Even if they kept you locked in your room, you were still able to do things they didn't approve of.

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Wed 09/03/08 02:44 PM
Edited by Lynann on Wed 09/03/08 02:46 PM
I was a teen ager...just replying to your question lest I be accused of dodging them.

I have three adult children. Two girls and a boy. I never lied to them about sex, I called things by the proper names, there was no misinformation or denial of information when they asked, I did not tell them they would burn in hell for engaging in teen sex or for getting pregnant, I did however point out that teen mothers usually end up alone, a burden to society and contribute to higher jail populations and lower rates of education and I let them make up their own minds about their bodies.

I happily became a grandmother for the first time two years ago at age 47. The parent of the twins was 27 when they were born.

For those who say, "$hit happens" You are right. The best laid plans and all. Whether a child does or doesn't become pregnant can have zero to do with what a parent does or believes. Still, children who know the facts of reproduction are less likely to be sold a bill of goods by a horny boyfriend or (not to be sexist)girlfriend that could ruin their lives.

I strongly believe that "$hit" does happen and when it involves reproduction it's none of the governments business what happens between a woman and her physician.