Topic: Cops Tell Man His Door Is Unlocked
franshade's photo
Mon 06/23/08 10:45 AM







some people really need to get over themselves huh

and put things in proper perspective sick


ouch, I think this comment is uncalled for

we are all entitled to express our opinions
everyone does not have to agree with it



we all are entitled to express our opinions,

but things Do need to be put in proper perspective drinker

and

i still think that some people need to get over themselvesflowerforyou


as you are entitled flowerforyou but must someone conform to your opinion of proper perspective

true some people should get over themselves - as some should think more highly of theirselves flowerforyou



THEIRSELVES...??? huh


NO, THE WORD IS flowerforyou <<<<< THEMSELVES>>>>> flowerforyou


laugh laugh laugh when all else fails get petty laugh laugh laugh I used that word on purpose.. laugh laugh laugh




???????????????????????????????????????????????? Why would you do something like that????????????????????????

Lindyy



Assuming this is to me, why would I say something like what Ms. Lindy??? please clarify

astrosfan's photo
Mon 06/23/08 10:52 AM
Edited by astrosfan on Mon 06/23/08 10:52 AM
thats what you call unthankful someone should of taken his **** .... cops in this case doing were good.. for once!! lol !

Rapunzel's photo
Mon 06/23/08 10:53 AM
Edited by Rapunzel on Mon 06/23/08 10:54 AM


......if it was me i would press charges

as some say on this site

"nough said



And you would get laughed at and escorted to the nearest door.... and there is no attorney who would back you up, I do not think even the ACLU would support you on this one!

Pray tell, what is your problem with the police making sure a residence is safe?

You make absolutely no sense at all.noway

Lindyy





truly ...Lindyy drinker smokin drinker

i don't know why there are some people indifferent

who wouldn't want honest officers to help huh


i have had good dealings with the police happy

and i respect them highly drinker

and their rough jobs fully smokin


they are mostly good , flowerforyou :heart: flowerforyou

only a few bad apples in the whole bushel drinker


I keep thinking that the reason drinker

many people are so adamant against the Police grumble

is because they probably have MUCH to hide...frown

Is someone out on the Lam ??? huh huh huh huh huh





huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh









Lindyy's photo
Mon 06/23/08 10:58 AM
Edited by Lindyy on Mon 06/23/08 11:00 AM


NO, THE WORD IS flowerforyou <<<<< THEMSELVES>>>>> flowerforyou

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laugh laugh laugh when all else fails get petty laugh laugh laugh I used that word on purpose.. laugh laugh laugh




???????????????????????????????????????????????? Why would you do something like that????????????????????????

Lindyy
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Assuming this is to me, why would I say something like what Ms. Lindy??? please clarify

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Fran, we are adults, please. I did not say "why would you say" I said "why would you DO something like that?" Referring to the above post of yours.

Really, I did not want to go into detail, I was trying to point out to you in a discrete manner how petty things were getting. To me "used that word on purposelaugh laugh laugh" is blatently trying to stir up controversy. So, I have clarified the issue.

Lindyy


franshade's photo
Mon 06/23/08 11:07 AM



NO, THE WORD IS flowerforyou <<<<< THEMSELVES>>>>> flowerforyou

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laugh laugh laugh when all else fails get petty laugh laugh laugh I used that word on purpose.. laugh laugh laugh




???????????????????????????????????????????????? Why would you do something like that????????????????????????

Lindyy
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Assuming this is to me, why would I say something like what Ms. Lindy??? please clarify

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Fran, we are adults, please. I did not say "why would you say" I said "why would you DO something like that?" Referring to the above post of yours.

Really, I did not want to go into detail, I was trying to point out to you in a discrete manner how petty things were getting. To me "used that word on purposelaugh laugh laugh" is blatently trying to stir up controversy. So, I have clarified the issue.

Lindyy




well then Ms. Lindy, you are wrong. I do not need to incite any controversy and didnt.

And yes I am an adult, and notice I speak with respect to everyone so I want the same (seems fair no?)

and just to prove the point the word is blatantly not blatently laugh laugh laugh laugh

or are you trying to incite controversy???
laugh laugh laugh


MsCarmen's photo
Mon 06/23/08 11:12 AM
Okay, I gotta put my two cents in here. What responsible parent hosting a sleepover with children of that age doesn't make sure that the entire home is secure and that the children are at least in bed before going to sleep themselves? That part doesn't make a bit of sense, and makes me wonder how responsible this parent is?

As for the police entering the home, I'm not a big fan of it, but being that this parent was so irresponsible in leaving the home open to intruders, I would be grateful as one of the parents of those kids that the police took it upon themselves to make sure the home was secure.

But then again, the city was already aware of the Police Department making patrols like this, as the article states that this was "part of a public service campaign to remind residents to secure their homes to prevent thefts".

Dragoness's photo
Mon 06/23/08 11:32 AM
Well, we must think of it this way, how much control do we want our government to have over us? Should they be able to check our doors at night and enter if they are not locked? Where does this power end? Do they tuck us in at night and make sure we say our prayers next?

If a person leaves their doors open at night, although dangerous, granted, should it not be their right to do so without having to wake up to the tucky tighty patrol?

I would say they are lucky that they did not enter my residence, my dog would have had a midnight snack, especially entering my room and then what would have happened, my dog would have got shot for doing her job well?

This is not a good situation and we must see it for the violation of our personal rights because that is what it is.

As for the parent not watching the children, at three in the morning everyone is asleep and that is not considered neglect.

franshade's photo
Mon 06/23/08 11:36 AM

Well, we must think of it this way, how much control do we want our government to have over us? Should they be able to check our doors at night and enter if they are not locked? Where does this power end? Do they tuck us in at night and make sure we say our prayers next?

If a person leaves their doors open at night, although dangerous, granted, should it not be their right to do so without having to wake up to the tucky tighty patrol?

I would say they are lucky that they did not enter my residence, my dog would have had a midnight snack, especially entering my room and then what would have happened, my dog would have got shot for doing her job well?

This is not a good situation and we must see it for the violation of our personal rights because that is what it is.

As for the parent not watching the children, at three in the morning everyone is asleep and that is not considered neglect.


I agree with your post, at 3am wake me at your own risk (and I am referring to someone that has no business in my home) regardless of occupation.

There is not enough information supplied on the kids, on why at 3am they were awake, where they awake when the police passed by? why would the police ask children if they can enter? they have no authority... just some questions I have flowerforyou


Dragoness's photo
Mon 06/23/08 11:43 AM


Well, we must think of it this way, how much control do we want our government to have over us? Should they be able to check our doors at night and enter if they are not locked? Where does this power end? Do they tuck us in at night and make sure we say our prayers next?

If a person leaves their doors open at night, although dangerous, granted, should it not be their right to do so without having to wake up to the tucky tighty patrol?

I would say they are lucky that they did not enter my residence, my dog would have had a midnight snack, especially entering my room and then what would have happened, my dog would have got shot for doing her job well?

This is not a good situation and we must see it for the violation of our personal rights because that is what it is.

As for the parent not watching the children, at three in the morning everyone is asleep and that is not considered neglect.


I agree with your post, at 3am wake me at your own risk (and I am referring to someone that has no business in my home) regardless of occupation.

There is not enough information supplied on the kids, on why at 3am they were awake, where they awake when the police passed by? why would the police ask children if they can enter? they have no authority... just some questions I have flowerforyou




And if the police woke the kids up at the age they were, it would have scared the bejesus out the poor little tykes to have the police wake them up. It was just wrong all the way around and some hell raisin needs to happen because if this becomes policy or standard we are in trouble. We will be moving towards totalitarian control in the government, so long to freedom.huh

franshade's photo
Mon 06/23/08 11:50 AM
shared those concerns myself - can you imagine the children scared out of their minds.

I try to see both views before I take a stand, but a note is the police officers usual way of dealing with this. Letting residents know what they saw/found. But this officer took it upon himself to enter a premise... wouldnt have walked out had that been my home. (just my opinion, not worth a dime:wink:)

no photo
Mon 06/23/08 11:59 AM
Once again a good thread about an important topic has turned into a childish argument. I had just started participating in the forums again, but I can see things havn't changed! This is not contributing anything valuable to my day. Can you all see that this kind of behavior is chasing good people off this site? frown

Lindyy's photo
Mon 06/23/08 12:23 PM


As for the parent not watching the children, at three in the morning everyone is asleep and that is not considered neglect.


Well, quite obviously, the 4 children under the age of 7 WERE NOT ASLEEP.


franshade's photo
Mon 06/23/08 12:25 PM



As for the parent not watching the children, at three in the morning everyone is asleep and that is not considered neglect.


Well, quite obviously, the 4 children under the age of 7 WERE NOT ASLEEP.


Ms Lindy, I read the article, no where on the article does it state whether the kids were already awake or if they were awaken by the police officers.


Dragoness's photo
Mon 06/23/08 12:25 PM

Once again a good thread about an important topic has turned into a childish argument. I had just started participating in the forums again, but I can see things havn't changed! This is not contributing anything valuable to my day. Can you all see that this kind of behavior is chasing good people off this site? frown


I am not sure if you meant me but I was not being argumentative at all. I was just stating how I feel about the situation.

So if I offended, sorry, not meant that way.

As for chasing people off the site, I am sure it is not that serious, right?

Dragoness's photo
Mon 06/23/08 12:27 PM



As for the parent not watching the children, at three in the morning everyone is asleep and that is not considered neglect.


Well, quite obviously, the 4 children under the age of 7 WERE NOT ASLEEP.




It did not state the children were wandering around the house awake, alone at three o clock in the morning and I am sure if that would have been the case that would have surely been mentioned, which means the police woke the little tykes up and scared the hell out of them. Police at your door is scary even to an adult.

Dragoness's photo
Mon 06/23/08 12:28 PM




As for the parent not watching the children, at three in the morning everyone is asleep and that is not considered neglect.


Well, quite obviously, the 4 children under the age of 7 WERE NOT ASLEEP.


Ms Lindy, I read the article, no where on the article does it state whether the kids were already awake or if they were awaken by the police officers.




:wink:

adj4u's photo
Mon 06/23/08 01:02 PM


......if it was me i would press charges

as some say on this site

"nough said



And you would get laughed at and escorted to the nearest door.... and there is no attorney who would back you up, I do not think even the ACLU would support you on this one!

Pray tell, what is your problem with the police making sure a residence is safe?

You make absolutely no sense at all.noway

Lindyy




so much for agreeing to disagree

i guess you decided not to

and they illegally entered the house they had no warrent and no probable cause they are lucky no one died

if someone would of then the cops would have been responsible

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Amendment Four

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures , shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue , but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

http://www.consource.org/index.asp?bid=574&False

franshade's photo
Tue 06/24/08 10:08 AM
embarassed *bump*:smile:

Fanta46's photo
Tue 06/24/08 10:25 AM

embarassed *bump*:smile:


Ouch!
Are you okay??laugh laugh

franshade's photo
Tue 06/24/08 10:33 AM
no it hurts sad sad sad

laugh