Topic: OK - LETS TRY THIS AGAIN
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Tue 06/10/08 03:01 PM

What about Adolf Hitler? He was a fanatical Christian.


Wrong. He was a Darwiniest and heavily immersed in New Age Philosophy.

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Tue 06/10/08 03:13 PM
Edited by Rapunzel on Tue 06/10/08 03:19 PM


What about Adolf Hitler? He was a fanatical Christian.


Wrong. He was a Darwiniest and heavily immersed in New Age Philosophy.




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Tue 06/10/08 03:16 PM
Edited by Rapunzel on Tue 06/10/08 03:20 PM


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Tue 06/10/08 07:05 PM


at first, i did not know how to take JB...but once i started to really listen to her, she is an intelligent woman...i really like her flowerforyou


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I don't agree with her but she doesn't need me to and I don't need to agree with her in order to respect her opinion. She obviously does her homework and you have to respect that.

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Tue 06/10/08 07:12 PM
I like JB too and she is one of my friends. I rarely agree with her but I think she has a big heart. She gets as irritated with others as we all do. We are only human. flowerforyou I think? laugh smooched ((((Jeannie))))smooched

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Tue 06/10/08 10:56 PM
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Wed 06/11/08 03:41 AM
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{b]I don't judge never have....but time after time I am accused of just that. Or it is without warrant brought to my attention that it is a "religious forms not a Christian forum" why is that....

I also find it rather interesting that all the people that were Christians, and who fell away....did so because of selfish reasons...or that God didn't do things on their terms....I say this also alot...why is it that when peoples lives are all hunky dory that they don't thank God, but when life is hell or hard they blame God first...

And exactly in your opinion tribo what are my true colors....how do you people think you know all of who I am in such a short time. None of you COULD EVER be a threat to me in any way, shape or form. Again if your going to ask a Christian aa question then expect to get a Christian answer,

I would like one of you to prove at anytime where I have "sucked people into my way of thinking. Look at it this way, you come in and say what you want....and I come in and say what I want. I leave it up to the good people of JSH to take the information and do as they see fit. I have never once told anyone to believe me or die......


When I said aplogies were not needed.....I meant what I said....and said what I meant....and you can turn around and throw that in my face......wow


About "judging" others... it's not judgment..it's warning people against the consequence of sin & believing lies & not following God's word. It's not personal to me. I don't hate that person for what they do.

You're right on point about those who fell away... I need not say more on that subject. It's been my point all along.

BRAVO! I can't be threatened by the attacks or name calling either. I try to answer things as led by God to answer them. It's for the benenfit of those who are seeking. Let lurkers decide for themselves. The word of God can be lived by & defended against lies & heresies. Correctly said...expect a Christian answer. I don't play in other people's ball park.

We expect that some will rage against God's word & His children for speaking the truth but we still know what we believe in.

:heart::smile: :heart: :smile:

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Wed 06/11/08 03:44 AM
Edited by Quikstepper on Wed 06/11/08 03:44 AM


What about Adolf Hitler? He was a fanatical Christian.


Wrong. He was a Darwiniest and heavily immersed in New Age Philosophy.


About Darwin...Darwin tested the Bible & found it to be true. He became a Christian & denounced his theories of evolution...

Can you imagine that? People still hang on evolution it like it was true????

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Wed 06/11/08 08:37 AM

:smile: :heart:

{b]I don't judge never have....but time after time I am accused of just that. Or it is without warrant brought to my attention that it is a "religious forms not a Christian forum" why is that....

I also find it rather interesting that all the people that were Christians, and who fell away....did so because of selfish reasons...or that God didn't do things on their terms....I say this also alot...why is it that when peoples lives are all hunky dory that they don't thank God, but when life is hell or hard they blame God first...

And exactly in your opinion tribo what are my true colors....how do you people think you know all of who I am in such a short time. None of you COULD EVER be a threat to me in any way, shape or form. Again if your going to ask a Christian aa question then expect to get a Christian answer,

I would like one of you to prove at anytime where I have "sucked people into my way of thinking. Look at it this way, you come in and say what you want....and I come in and say what I want. I leave it up to the good people of JSH to take the information and do as they see fit. I have never once told anyone to believe me or die......


When I said aplogies were not needed.....I meant what I said....and said what I meant....and you can turn around and throw that in my face......wow


About "judging" others... it's not judgment..it's warning people against the consequence of sin & believing lies & not following God's word. It's not personal to me. I don't hate that person for what they do.

You're right on point about those who fell away... I need not say more on that subject. It's been my point all along.

BRAVO! I can't be threatened by the attacks or name calling either. I try to answer things as led by God to answer them. It's for the benenfit of those who are seeking. Let lurkers decide for themselves. The word of God can be lived by & defended against lies & heresies. Correctly said...expect a Christian answer. I don't play in other people's ball park.

We expect that some will rage against God's word & His children for speaking the truth but we still know what we believe in.

:heart::smile: :heart: :smile:


hi quick - what your responding to leaves out what i responded in return - i advise anyone to read the whole debate instead of just answers to a small part of the whole - to easy to be taken out of context - thnx.

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Wed 06/11/08 08:43 AM
Edited by Rapunzel on Wed 06/11/08 08:47 AM



What about Adolf Hitler? He was a fanatical Christian.


Wrong. He was a Darwiniest and heavily immersed in New Age Philosophy.


About Darwin...Darwin tested the Bible & found it to be true. He became a Christian & denounced his theories of evolution...

Can you imagine that? People still hang on evolution it like it was true????




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Wed 06/11/08 08:45 AM



What about Adolf Hitler? He was a fanatical Christian.


Wrong. He was a Darwiniest and heavily immersed in New Age Philosophy.


About Darwin...Darwin tested the Bible & found it to be true. He became a Christian & denounced his theories of evolution...

Can you imagine that? People still hang on evolution it like it was true????


yea Quick - i can imagine that - i can not just imagine that - I see like thing's happening all the time - your statement could be turned around to say or mean - "can you imagine that, people still hang on religious belief's like they were true???" also for those who maynot know of darwins later belief - it is always helpful to quote your source so other's can see for themselves if what your stating is accurate - i dont believe anyone here is dumb but many are ignorant as to knowing any set of facts that may be brought to light by you or other's - we al are ignorant to different degree's in millions of areas - so please do that when you post such factual statement's ok? thnx.

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Wed 06/11/08 08:46 AM

:smile: :heart:

{b]I don't judge never have....but time after time I am accused of just that. Or it is without warrant brought to my attention that it is a "religious forms not a Christian forum" why is that....

I also find it rather interesting that all the people that were Christians, and who fell away....did so because of selfish reasons...or that God didn't do things on their terms....I say this also alot...why is it that when peoples lives are all hunky dory that they don't thank God, but when life is hell or hard they blame God first...

And exactly in your opinion tribo what are my true colors....how do you people think you know all of who I am in such a short time. None of you COULD EVER be a threat to me in any way, shape or form. Again if your going to ask a Christian aa question then expect to get a Christian answer,

I would like one of you to prove at anytime where I have "sucked people into my way of thinking. Look at it this way, you come in and say what you want....and I come in and say what I want. I leave it up to the good people of JSH to take the information and do as they see fit. I have never once told anyone to believe me or die......


When I said aplogies were not needed.....I meant what I said....and said what I meant....and you can turn around and throw that in my face......wow


About "judging" others... it's not judgment..it's warning people against the consequence of sin & believing lies & not following God's word. It's not personal to me. I don't hate that person for what they do.

You're right on point about those who fell away... I need not say more on that subject. It's been my point all along.

BRAVO! I can't be threatened by the attacks or name calling either. I try to answer things as led by God to answer them. It's for the benenfit of those who are seeking. Let lurkers decide for themselves. The word of God can be lived by & defended against lies & heresies. Correctly said...expect a Christian answer. I don't play in other people's ball park.

We expect that some will rage against God's word & His children for speaking the truth but we still know what we believe in.

:heart::smile: :heart: :smile:




flowerforyou :heart: flowerforyou Amen, Sister...flowerforyou :heart: flowerforyou


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Wed 06/11/08 08:52 AM


:smile: :heart:

{b]I don't judge never have....but time after time I am accused of just that. Or it is without warrant brought to my attention that it is a "religious forms not a Christian forum" why is that....

I also find it rather interesting that all the people that were Christians, and who fell away....did so because of selfish reasons...or that God didn't do things on their terms....I say this also alot...why is it that when peoples lives are all hunky dory that they don't thank God, but when life is hell or hard they blame God first...

And exactly in your opinion tribo what are my true colors....how do you people think you know all of who I am in such a short time. None of you COULD EVER be a threat to me in any way, shape or form. Again if your going to ask a Christian aa question then expect to get a Christian answer,

I would like one of you to prove at anytime where I have "sucked people into my way of thinking. Look at it this way, you come in and say what you want....and I come in and say what I want. I leave it up to the good people of JSH to take the information and do as they see fit. I have never once told anyone to believe me or die......


When I said aplogies were not needed.....I meant what I said....and said what I meant....and you can turn around and throw that in my face......wow


About "judging" others... it's not judgment..it's warning people against the consequence of sin & believing lies & not following God's word. It's not personal to me. I don't hate that person for what they do.

You're right on point about those who fell away... I need not say more on that subject. It's been my point all along.

BRAVO! I can't be threatened by the attacks or name calling either. I try to answer things as led by God to answer them. It's for the benenfit of those who are seeking. Let lurkers decide for themselves. The word of God can be lived by & defended against lies & heresies. Correctly said...expect a Christian answer. I don't play in other people's ball park.

We expect that some will rage against God's word & His children for speaking the truth but we still know what we believe in.

:heart::smile: :heart: :smile:


hi quick - what your responding to leaves out what i responded in return - i advise anyone to read the whole debate instead of just answers to a small part of the whole - to easy to be taken out of context - thnx.

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Wed 06/11/08 08:52 AM



What about Adolf Hitler? He was a fanatical Christian.


Wrong. He was a Darwiniest and heavily immersed in New Age Philosophy.


About Darwin...Darwin tested the Bible & found it to be true. He became a Christian & denounced his theories of evolution...

Can you imagine that? People still hang on evolution it like it was true????



The alleged recantation/conversion is embellishment that others have either read into the story or made up for themselves. Moore calls such doings �holy fabrication!�

It should be noted that for most of her married life Emma was deeply pained by the irreligious nature of Charles's views, and would have been strongly motivated to have corroborated any story of a genuine conversion, if such had occurred. She never did.

It therefore appears that Darwin did not recant, and it is a pity that to this day the Lady Hope story occasionally appears in tracts published and given out by well-meaning people.


http://christiananswers.net/q-aig/darwin.html

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Wed 06/11/08 08:55 AM
thnx for that karma drinker

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Wed 06/11/08 09:48 AM




What about Adolf Hitler? He was a fanatical Christian.


Wrong. He was a Darwiniest and heavily immersed in New Age Philosophy.


About Darwin...Darwin tested the Bible & found it to be true. He became a Christian & denounced his theories of evolution...

Can you imagine that? People still hang on evolution it like it was true????



The alleged recantation/conversion is embellishment that others have either read into the story or made up for themselves. Moore calls such doings ?holy fabrication!?

It should be noted that for most of her married life Emma was deeply pained by the irreligious nature of Charles's views, and would have been strongly motivated to have corroborated any story of a genuine conversion, if such had occurred. She never did.

It therefore appears that Darwin did not recant, and it is a pity that to this day the Lady Hope story occasionally appears in tracts published and given out by well-meaning people.


http://christiananswers.net/q-aig/darwin.html




Hi KarmaFury ...



Thank you for that link...I read most of it,

and it does appear as you say , that Darwin did not recant...




oh, well, it doesn't change the way i believe in any way flowerforyou


interestingly enough, though....


the very last part of the link drinker

that you sent about Darwin, reads...flowerforyou





Conclusion
Charles Darwin was a tragically mistaken man who drifted from a childlike trust in One who helped him run to school on time into an abyss of hopelessness and agnosticism. While the spiritual journey of a Christian is a journey out of darkness into Christ's marvelous light, that of Charles Darwin was a slippery slide out of Gospel light (although not saving spiritual sight) into the sheer "blackness of darkness for ever."

Darwin's unbelief, like that of so many people today, had its roots in a mind which first rejected the revelation of God in the Bible and then was unwilling to accept the revelation of God which God Himself has given in nature. This religion of revelation, of the Bible, of the Lord Jesus Christ, will keep us tuned to truth, hope, and life in God, and away from evolutionism, humanism, and atheism, only as we allow it to exercise its power in our hearts. The tragedy of Charles Darwin is that he never did.




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Wed 06/11/08 09:54 AM





What about Adolf Hitler? He was a fanatical Christian.


Wrong. He was a Darwiniest and heavily immersed in New Age Philosophy.


About Darwin...Darwin tested the Bible & found it to be true. He became a Christian & denounced his theories of evolution...

Can you imagine that? People still hang on evolution it like it was true????



The alleged recantation/conversion is embellishment that others have either read into the story or made up for themselves. Moore calls such doings ?holy fabrication!?

It should be noted that for most of her married life Emma was deeply pained by the irreligious nature of Charles's views, and would have been strongly motivated to have corroborated any story of a genuine conversion, if such had occurred. She never did.

It therefore appears that Darwin did not recant, and it is a pity that to this day the Lady Hope story occasionally appears in tracts published and given out by well-meaning people.


http://christiananswers.net/q-aig/darwin.html




Hi KarmaFury ...



Thank you for that link...I read most of it,

and it does appear as you say , that Darwin did not recant...




oh, well, it doesn't change the way i believe in any way flowerforyou


interestingly enough, though....


the very last part of the link drinker

that you sent about Darwin, reads...flowerforyou





Conclusion
Charles Darwin was a tragically mistaken man who drifted from a childlike trust in One who helped him run to school on time into an abyss of hopelessness and agnosticism. While the spiritual journey of a Christian is a journey out of darkness into Christ's marvelous light, that of Charles Darwin was a slippery slide out of Gospel light (although not saving spiritual sight) into the sheer "blackness of darkness for ever."

Darwin's unbelief, like that of so many people today, had its roots in a mind which first rejected the revelation of God in the Bible and then was unwilling to accept the revelation of God which God Himself has given in nature. This religion of revelation, of the Bible, of the Lord Jesus Christ, will keep us tuned to truth, hope, and life in God, and away from evolutionism, humanism, and atheism, only as we allow it to exercise its power in our hearts. The tragedy of Charles Darwin is that he never did.






Take note that the link is to a Christian site. Therefore it would be normal for them to state that Darwin was tragically mistaken etc. Had I gone to a non Christian site this 'conclusion' would not have been there. But then it would also have been less credible to those who believe the story that he recanted.

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Wed 06/11/08 09:57 AM
Oooh, yes, i totally understand what you are saying...drinker


We all have different ways to view things...flowerforyou


Thank you Karma Fury...flowerforyou drinker :heart: drinker flowerforyou



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Wed 06/11/08 12:12 PM

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{b]I don't judge never have....but time after time I am accused of just that. Or it is without warrant brought to my attention that it is a "religious forms not a Christian forum" why is that....

I also find it rather interesting that all the people that were Christians, and who fell away....did so because of selfish reasons...or that God didn't do things on their terms....I say this also alot...why is it that when peoples lives are all hunky dory that they don't thank God, but when life is hell or hard they blame God first...

And exactly in your opinion tribo what are my true colors....how do you people think you know all of who I am in such a short time. None of you COULD EVER be a threat to me in any way, shape or form. Again if your going to ask a Christian aa question then expect to get a Christian answer,

I would like one of you to prove at anytime where I have "sucked people into my way of thinking. Look at it this way, you come in and say what you want....and I come in and say what I want. I leave it up to the good people of JSH to take the information and do as they see fit. I have never once told anyone to believe me or die......


When I said aplogies were not needed.....I meant what I said....and said what I meant....and you can turn around and throw that in my face......wow


About "judging" others... it's not judgment..it's warning people against the consequence of sin & believing lies & not following God's word. It's not personal to me. I don't hate that person for what they do.

You're right on point about those who fell away... I need not say more on that subject. It's been my point all along.

BRAVO! I can't be threatened by the attacks or name calling either. I try to answer things as led by God to answer them. It's for the benenfit of those who are seeking. Let lurkers decide for themselves. The word of God can be lived by & defended against lies & heresies. Correctly said...expect a Christian answer. I don't play in other people's ball park.

We expect that some will rage against God's word & His children for speaking the truth but we still know what we believe in.

:heart::smile: :heart: :smile:



The only problem is that this is a behavior set that opposes the teachings of Christ. How can one warn others about following Christ when they themselves refuse to?

Discussing ideas and concepts is the purpose of a discussion about religion. Labeling belief is a easier way to communicate concepts. The problem with Anti Christ christians (people who claim to be christians and attack anyone not believed to be christians) is that they are actually using Christ as a weapon claiming they are superior to others, that they are right, and others are wrong.

This by the teachings of almost all religions is bad. If someone wants to be a Christian I'm all for it. I just have a problem with people who won't accept Christ in their hearts or minds going around telling everyone else they are wrong and need to love Jesus and that he is the way to salvation. If you don't pay attention to the teachings of Christ how can you actually call yourself a Christian?

The sad truth here is that I am guilty of bad behavior on this Forum. I set a trap for you because I am a pagan, and I do follow the teachings of Christ. He taught many things that were worth paying attention to. I believe his lessons and the honoring of his lessons are much more important than claims to uphold him. If one believes anything good about him is he served better by honoring his lessons, or by proclaiming he is everything while ignoring his teachings?

What is more valid, one who proffesses Christ as savior and ignores his teachings, or one that follows his teachings without claim?

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Wed 06/11/08 12:30 PM





What about Adolf Hitler? He was a fanatical Christian.


Wrong. He was a Darwiniest and heavily immersed in New Age Philosophy.


About Darwin...Darwin tested the Bible & found it to be true. He became a Christian & denounced his theories of evolution...

Can you imagine that? People still hang on evolution it like it was true????



The alleged recantation/conversion is embellishment that others have either read into the story or made up for themselves. Moore calls such doings ?holy fabrication!?

It should be noted that for most of her married life Emma was deeply pained by the irreligious nature of Charles's views, and would have been strongly motivated to have corroborated any story of a genuine conversion, if such had occurred. She never did.

It therefore appears that Darwin did not recant, and it is a pity that to this day the Lady Hope story occasionally appears in tracts published and given out by well-meaning people.


http://christiananswers.net/q-aig/darwin.html




Hi KarmaFury ...



Thank you for that link...I read most of it,

and it does appear as you say , that Darwin did not recant...




oh, well, it doesn't change the way i believe in any way flowerforyou


interestingly enough, though....


the very last part of the link drinker

that you sent about Darwin, reads...flowerforyou





Conclusion
Charles Darwin was a tragically mistaken man who drifted from a childlike trust in One who helped him run to school on time into an abyss of hopelessness and agnosticism. While the spiritual journey of a Christian is a journey out of darkness into Christ's marvelous light, that of Charles Darwin was a slippery slide out of Gospel light (although not saving spiritual sight) into the sheer "blackness of darkness for ever."

Darwin's unbelief, like that of so many people today, had its roots in a mind which first rejected the revelation of God in the Bible and then was unwilling to accept the revelation of God which God Himself has given in nature. This religion of revelation, of the Bible, of the Lord Jesus Christ, will keep us tuned to truth, hope, and life in God, and away from evolutionism, humanism, and atheism, only as we allow it to exercise its power in our hearts. The tragedy of Charles Darwin is that he never did.






OUCH! That's sad.... (sigh)