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Topic: OK - LETS TRY THIS AGAIN
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Fri 06/06/08 02:23 AM
Edited by Belushi on Fri 06/06/08 02:23 AM
Yes (went to sunday school as a kid, but got thrown out for asking too many questions)
Does that count?

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Fri 06/06/08 06:40 AM

Yes (went to sunday school as a kid, but got thrown out for asking too many questions)
Does that count?

huh Yeah.huh Thathuh onehuh ishuh believablehuh andhuh couldhuh neverhuh behuh mistakenhuh forhuh ahuh liehuh .noway

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Fri 06/06/08 06:44 AM
Edited by Belushi on Fri 06/06/08 06:50 AM


Yes (went to sunday school as a kid, but got thrown out for asking too many questions)
Does that count?

huh Yeah.huh Thathuh onehuh ishuh believablehuh andhuh couldhuh neverhuh behuh mistakenhuh forhuh ahuh liehuh .noway


Better to ask a million questions and learn than to be a sheep and blindly accept ...

But then I guess some will never learn huh huh huh huh huh huh huh

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Fri 06/06/08 07:11 AM
Not sure how you want to count me. I guess it is a matter of perspective.
Got "saved" then later didn't believe AT ALL.
However, I FIRMLY believe and consider myself a Christian but for now, I am practicing my faith by going to a church. Based on that information, you could put me in or out of that box, your choice. I would say I am NOT with you because even though I have walked away from the church, my beliefs have stayed the same.

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Fri 06/06/08 07:27 AM


Yes (went to sunday school as a kid, but got thrown out for asking too many questions)
Does that count?

huh Yeah.huh Thathuh onehuh ishuh believablehuh andhuh couldhuh neverhuh behuh mistakenhuh forhuh ahuh liehuh .noway


You know. I actually believe this. I have been kicked out of places for asking too many questions before. Guess it depends on who is in charge but not all Christians like their faith questioned. Especially by kids who are supposed to be absorbing everything they say. If this teacher thought the questions Belushi was asking could interrupt what he/she was teaching to the other children I have no doubt he was kicked out. I have gotten kicked out of my ethics class time and time again for asking questions. How wrong is that.. :cry:



Heya Tribo!! drinker drinker

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Fri 06/06/08 07:35 AM
The reason the guy got kicked out of his sunday school class was because he was bright and knowlegable and asking questions the teacher has no clue about. In other words, the young lad would probably have been a much better teacher than the lunkhead he was stuck with and probably would have researshed and found answers to things he didnt know.
Your welcome

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Fri 06/06/08 08:04 AM



Yes (went to sunday school as a kid, but got thrown out for asking too many questions)
Does that count?

huh Yeah.huh Thathuh onehuh ishuh believablehuh andhuh couldhuh neverhuh behuh mistakenhuh forhuh ahuh liehuh .noway


Better to ask a million questions and learn than to be a sheep and blindly accept ...

But then I guess some will never learn huh huh huh huh huh huh huh




Belushi

I for one, was raised very Roman Catholic,

in a very old school Italian Sicilian Family

Back East in New England

having gone to Catholic School

with my First Holy Communion & Confirmation...



but i did not just blindly follow...noway

maybe some people have blindly followed ohwell

without asking questions... but not all..noway

but then there are many many others who have...drinker

Some of us have really asked millions of questions, flowerforyou

and have kept our eyes and ears open

to really see & hear ,

and we have not just blindly accepted whatever was put our way.


and yet, through all of the opposition , we still believe drinker

we have fully come to the decision that Christ is Lord...:heart:

And we have chosen to follow Him despite the hypocrisy :cry:

shown by some of the people who say they are of God...huh

and despite all of the negative comments

from those who do not believe...flowerforyou



and we are not perfect , flowerforyou

no one is perfect, by the way :heart:

We are His Masterpieces in Progress...flowerforyou



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Fri 06/06/08 08:14 AM
Okay, what do you mean by out? I take my grandma, but don't go for myself.

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Fri 06/06/08 09:48 AM

The reason the guy got kicked out of his sunday school class was because he was bright and knowlegable and asking questions the teacher has no clue about. In other words, the young lad would probably have been a much better teacher than the lunkhead he was stuck with and probably would have researshed and found answers to things he didnt know.
Your welcome


I was 8 years old.
I had read pentateuch and had loads of questions on creationism.

They gave me patronising answers very similar to the inane answers that appear here on a regular basis. They thought that quoting another chapter and verse would give me the answer, when in reality it had the opposite effect.

None of the answers made any logical sense at 8 years old, and at 41 they still make no sense to a freethinking adult that has since read the entire fairy story and analysed it as pure fiction.

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Fri 06/06/08 10:18 AM

Not sure how you want to count me. I guess it is a matter of perspective.
Got "saved" then later didn't believe AT ALL.
However, I FIRMLY believe and consider myself a Christian but for now, I am practicing my faith by going to a church. Based on that information, you could put me in or out of that box, your choice. I would say I am NOT with you because even though I have walked away from the church, my beliefs have stayed the same.


your correct cherub :smile:

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Fri 06/06/08 10:21 AM
Edited by Rapunzel on Fri 06/06/08 10:25 AM


The reason the guy got kicked out of his sunday school class was because he was bright and knowlegable and asking questions the teacher has no clue about. In other words, the young lad would probably have been a much better teacher than the lunkhead he was stuck with and probably would have researshed and found answers to things he didnt know.
Your welcome


I was 8 years old.
I had read pentateuch and had loads of questions on creationism.

They gave me patronising answers very similar to the inane answers that appear here on a regular basis. They thought that quoting another chapter and verse would give me the answer, when in reality it had the opposite effect.

None of the answers made any logical sense at 8 years old, and at 41 they still make no sense to a freethinking adult that has since read the entire fairy story and analysed it as pure fiction.



you don't have to address me directly,:heart:

but i know that, or let's say...flowerforyou

i hope you would at least read my posts...:wink:

I haven't given you any scripture here noway

although i am telling you

that some of us do not fall into any real classification noway

or box that someone else would try to put us in...huh

it seems like so many want to label everything & everyone noway

and put us all into little categories :cry:

and sectioned off so perfectly & neatly ...huh

but, it doesn't always work that way...:wink:

there are some of us who Do Not fall noway

into any specific category...:wink:


I am not of any specific denomination...:smile:

I am non or interdenominational...happy

and i embrace the fine teachings in many fields of wisdom...flowerforyou

One of my Awesome Daughters lives in the Bay Area with her Husband :heart:

and there are others she works with, who have visited with

the Dalai' Lama drinker & have meditated with the Tibetan Monks...flowerforyou


I'm trying to find ways to unite people flowerforyou

to find common denominators & to find love for one another :heart:

realizing that we are so very similar in so many ways...blushing

rather than constantly stress our differences...:heart:


I respect you for whatever it is you believe drinker

and i just ask everyone for the same courtesy ...flowerforyou

for those who profess Christianity, please :wink:


with love and light to everyone :heart: flowerforyou :heart:

in the eternal quest for all things bright & beautiful happy

for all things that are loving & real & righteous :heart:

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Fri 06/06/08 10:28 AM
Edited by tribo on Fri 06/06/08 10:31 AM



Yes (went to sunday school as a kid, but got thrown out for asking too many questions)
Does that count?

huh Yeah.huh Thathuh onehuh ishuh believablehuh andhuh couldhuh neverhuh behuh mistakenhuh forhuh ahuh liehuh .noway


Better to ask a million questions and learn than to be a sheep and blindly accept ...

But then I guess some will never learn huh huh huh huh huh huh huh


hmmm?? balushi, when in the bible class were you also going to church and participating? saved? so to say? had you accepted christ as your "SAVIOR"??? i was trying to find those on here that could speak on having been on the inside of christianity and left due to coming to the conclusion that it was bull!! and do not or have no inclination to ever return, have found a truth that works for them outside of christianity.

my next post will be how many - AGNOTHEIST - are here - i assure you - you will be at the top of the list!!!!!bigsmile bigsmile bigsmile

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Fri 06/06/08 10:34 AM



Yes (went to sunday school as a kid, but got thrown out for asking too many questions)
Does that count?

huh Yeah.huh Thathuh onehuh ishuh believablehuh andhuh couldhuh neverhuh behuh mistakenhuh forhuh ahuh liehuh .noway


You know. I actually believe this. I have been kicked out of places for asking too many questions before. Guess it depends on who is in charge but not all Christians like their faith questioned. Especially by kids who are supposed to be absorbing everything they say. If this teacher thought the questions Belushi was asking could interrupt what he/she was teaching to the other children I have no doubt he was kicked out. I have gotten kicked out of my ethics class time and time again for asking questions. How wrong is that.. :cry:



Heya Tribo!! drinker drinker



been there, done that also Rathil, catholic for first 8 yrs, i got excommunicated, because i was trouble maker.bigsmile

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Fri 06/06/08 10:38 AM

Okay, what do you mean by out? I take my grandma, but don't go for myself.


hi clouded,

im saying people who donot believe anymore in christianity, but were at one time saved and believing - i think i read where you posted you still believe in a lot of it? correct? you follow a lot of it? and dis-agree with some - if so then i have to say thats not what i'm asking for right now at present flowerforyou

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Fri 06/06/08 10:39 AM
Edited by Rapunzel on Fri 06/06/08 10:42 AM




Yes (went to sunday school as a kid, but got thrown out for asking too many questions)
Does that count?

huh Yeah.huh Thathuh onehuh ishuh believablehuh andhuh couldhuh neverhuh behuh mistakenhuh forhuh ahuh liehuh .noway


Better to ask a million questions and learn than to be a sheep and blindly accept ...

But then I guess some will never learn huh huh huh huh huh huh huh


hmmm?? balushi, when in the bible class were you also going to church and participating? saved? so to say? had you accepted christ as your "SAVIOR"??? i was trying to find those on here that could speak on having been on the inside of christianity and left due to coming to the conclusion that it was bull!! and do not or have no inclination to ever return, have found a truth that works for them outside of christianity.

my next post will be how many - AGNOTHEIST - are here - i assure you - you will be at the top of the list!!!!!bigsmile bigsmile bigsmile




why not focus on something drinker

more positive & loving ? :wink:


rather than negative things ...huh

always stressing division & exclusion...noway noway noway



there are so many wonderful things drinker

to occupy your heart & mind & spirit :heart:


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Fri 06/06/08 11:43 AM
Edited by tribo on Fri 06/06/08 11:46 AM





Yes (went to sunday school as a kid, but got thrown out for asking too many questions)
Does that count?

huh Yeah.huh Thathuh onehuh ishuh believablehuh andhuh couldhuh neverhuh behuh mistakenhuh forhuh ahuh liehuh .noway


Better to ask a million questions and learn than to be a sheep and blindly accept ...

But then I guess some will never learn huh huh huh huh huh huh huh


hmmm?? balushi, when in the bible class were you also going to church and participating? saved? so to say? had you accepted christ as your "SAVIOR"??? i was trying to find those on here that could speak on having been on the inside of christianity and left due to coming to the conclusion that it was bull!! and do not or have no inclination to ever return, have found a truth that works for them outside of christianity.

my next post will be how many - AGNOTHEIST - are here - i assure you - you will be at the top of the list!!!!!bigsmile bigsmile bigsmile




why not focus on something drinker

more positive & loving ? :wink:


rather than negative things ...huh

always stressing division & exclusion...noway noway noway



there are so many wonderful things drinker

to occupy your heart & mind & spirit :heart:




hi R - this is not for some kind of classifcation pole, this is because i'm new and many times i dont know where people are posting what there beliefs are and their backgrounds are - just feeling out the crowd so to say - i know belushi's and abra's a jb's and a few more, just trying to get to know who's who - not to seperate anyone into catagories for any purpose other than that - not my purpose ok? donot take it the wrong way please.

Belushi's photo
Fri 06/06/08 12:10 PM

hmmm?? balushi, when in the bible class were you also going to church and participating? saved? so to say? had you accepted christ as your "SAVIOR"??? i was trying to find those on here that could speak on having been on the inside of christianity and left due to coming to the conclusion that it was bull!! and do not or have no inclination to ever return, have found a truth that works for them outside of christianity.

my next post will be how many - AGNOTHEIST - are here - i assure you - you will be at the top of the list!!!!!bigsmile bigsmile bigsmile


Ah! No, then Im not part of this.

I have never accepted there is a god. So, therefore Imin the wrong thread, sorry.

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Fri 06/06/08 12:14 PM

hi R - this is not for some kind of classifcation pole, this is because i'm new and many times i dont know where people are posting what there beliefs are and their backgrounds are - just feeling out the crowd so to say - i know belushi's and abra's a jb's and a few more, just trying to get to know who's who - not to seperate anyone into catagories for any purpose other than that - not my purpose ok? donot take it the wrong way please.


I actually appreciate this Tribo. I am new as well and it does help to have a general idea of what people's general "religious" opinion is when reading their posts. It helps keep things into perspective. For example, I should never expect Abra or JB to give me biblical basis for their being a God. Their well researched and articulate response may or may not give me evidence of a God but it wouldn't be Biblical evidence of a Biblical God because they do not believe in the Bible let alone the Biblical God. If one understands a posters bias up front, the reader can read and respect the posted opinion and HOPEFULLY not be as easily offended.

Belushi's photo
Fri 06/06/08 12:20 PM

you don't have to address me directly,:heart:

I wasnt.


but i know that, or let's say...flowerforyou
i hope you would at least read my posts...:wink:
I haven't given you any scripture here noway

True

My major issue with christianity, islam and judaism, is all the same.
Its hypocritical.
The professions of peace, love and understanding all go to catpoo when another religion is mentioned, or a questioning of a line in the religious book is brought up

I just intensely dislike the idea that "you" say that "you" follow one way - "you" say its the only way - but then "you" dont follow it yourself and expect "me" to. When "I" dont then "you" start throwing double standards at "me"

(obviously the "you" and "me" dont actually apply to you and me personally)

If all of the major religions had any real sway at all, then there would be no stress or angst in the world.

But the label of being a god fearing christian/muslim/jew is used in the excuse of doing horrendous things in god/allah/jehovah's name.

Humanity has to create these imaginary friends to prevent itself going mad. The human being is a destructive force and "desires nothing more than to slit its own throats"

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Fri 06/06/08 12:34 PM
Well now...that's just strange. I went to Sunday school and asked sooo many questions...never once did I get kicked out. I wanted proof. They stayed and answered as good as they knew how. Many times I did that with different church pastors and the such. With the sunday school teachers too. I was very much an agnostic then. I didn't believe their was a God, but wanted answers. Then I went from didn't believe to wanting to know how we knew. Never really got an answer then either. It was waaaaaaaay later that I changed my mind.
Kat

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