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Topic: OK - LETS TRY THIS AGAIN
tribo's photo
Fri 06/06/08 12:40 PM


hi R - this is not for some kind of classifcation pole, this is because i'm new and many times i dont know where people are posting what there beliefs are and their backgrounds are - just feeling out the crowd so to say - i know belushi's and abra's a jb's and a few more, just trying to get to know who's who - not to seperate anyone into catagories for any purpose other than that - not my purpose ok? donot take it the wrong way please.


I actually appreciate this Tribo. I am new as well and it does help to have a general idea of what people's general "religious" opinion is when reading their posts. It helps keep things into perspective. For example, I should never expect Abra or JB to give me biblical basis for their being a God. Their well researched and articulate response may or may not give me evidence of a God but it wouldn't be Biblical evidence of a Biblical God because they do not believe in the Bible let alone the Biblical God. If one understands a posters bias up front, the reader can read and respect the posted opinion and HOPEFULLY not be as easily offended.


well stated cherub, thnxflowerforyou

cherub_girl's photo
Fri 06/06/08 12:44 PM
Can I get your list of who falls into what "catagory" once you have completed it? flowerforyou

tribo's photo
Fri 06/06/08 12:44 PM
Edited by tribo on Fri 06/06/08 12:45 PM


you don't have to address me directly,:heart:

I wasnt.


but i know that, or let's say...flowerforyou
i hope you would at least read my posts...:wink:
I haven't given you any scripture here noway

True

My major issue with christianity, islam and judaism, is all the same.
Its hypocritical.
The professions of peace, love and understanding all go to catpoo when another religion is mentioned, or a questioning of a line in the religious book is brought up

I just intensely dislike the idea that "you" say that "you" follow one way - "you" say its the only way - but then "you" dont follow it yourself and expect "me" to. When "I" dont then "you" start throwing double standards at "me"

(obviously the "you" and "me" dont actually apply to you and me personally)

If all of the major religions had any real sway at all, then there would be no stress or angst in the world.

But the label of being a god fearing christian/muslim/jew is used in the excuse of doing horrendous things in god/allah/jehovah's name.

Humanity has to create these imaginary friends to prevent itself going mad. The human being is a destructive force and "desires nothing more than to slit its own throats"



your last quote is most true belushi, i agree

tribo's photo
Fri 06/06/08 12:46 PM

Can I get your list of who falls into what "catagory" once you have completed it? flowerforyou
yes i'll keep posting it and updating it till then ok?

no photo
Fri 06/06/08 12:48 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 06/06/08 12:49 PM

SO FAR I'VE GOT 10 INCLUDING MYSELF - CORRECT? ANYMORE?
ABRA
DARK OWL 1
WHAT IS LIFE
RATHIL THADS
YZRABBIT
ANOASIS
REDYKEULOUS
ZIGFEILDGIRL
TRIBO
FUNANDCUTENICE


I don't think you can count me in. I never did accept Christianity and dropped out of Sunday School after going about three or four times.

Nope. I guess I have always been agnostic since the third grade. bigsmile

Before that, it was just me and Santa Clause.laugh laugh


cherub_girl's photo
Fri 06/06/08 12:49 PM
PERFECT!

tribo's photo
Fri 06/06/08 12:50 PM

Well now...that's just strange. I went to Sunday school and asked sooo many questions...never once did I get kicked out. I wanted proof. They stayed and answered as good as they knew how. Many times I did that with different church pastors and the such. With the sunday school teachers too. I was very much an agnostic then. I didn't believe their was a God, but wanted answers. Then I went from didn't believe to wanting to know how we knew. Never really got an answer then either. It was waaaaaaaay later that I changed my mind.
Kat


hi scatter/kat are you saying then you were a chritian born again? and now not? or am i reading you wrong??

Rapunzel's photo
Fri 06/06/08 12:51 PM
Edited by Rapunzel on Fri 06/06/08 12:54 PM
:heart:


you don't have to address me directly,:heart:

I wasnt.


but i know that, or let's say...flowerforyou
i hope you would at least read my posts...:wink:
I haven't given you any scripture here noway

True

My major issue with christianity, islam and judaism, is all the same.
Its hypocritical.
The professions of peace, love and understanding all go to catpoo when another religion is mentioned, or a questioning of a line in the religious book is brought up

I just intensely dislike the idea that "you" say that "you" follow one way - "you" say its the only way - but then "you" dont follow it yourself and expect "me" to. When "I" dont then "you" start throwing double standards at "me"

(obviously the "you" and "me" dont actually apply to you and me personally)

If all of the major religions had any real sway at all, then there would be no stress or angst in the world.

But the label of being a god fearing christian/muslim/jew is used in the excuse of doing horrendous things in god/allah/jehovah's name.

Humanity has to create these imaginary friends to prevent itself going mad. The human being is a destructive force and "desires nothing more than to slit its own throats"





Oh oh oh....I don't have all the answers...ohwell
I wish things were different and not so complicated....:cry:
All we need is love and understanding and yes, flowerforyou
a lot of things you say are correct drinker


it is so tragic, that so many wars have been waged
in the name of religion, Dear ,
and i have no answer why this happens...

except the war between good and evil
started way before i was here ohwell

& hopefully we can find some love flowerforyou
and things to unite us :heart:
and lay down the arms in the wars drinker
that only continue to divide us...sad
...individually & globally ....:heart:

so, i sit on the edge of the fence,
trying not to offend people,
and trying to embrace & spread as much goodness as i can...

just because i or someone else may not be as inclined
to agree with someone one day,ohwell
doesn't mean that the next day is going to be the same...:heart:

I hate war & i don't want to further it noway
in my own heart or thought processes...sick

Peace & love to You :heart:

tribo's photo
Fri 06/06/08 12:54 PM


SO FAR I'VE GOT 10 INCLUDING MYSELF - CORRECT? ANYMORE?
ABRA
DARK OWL 1
WHAT IS LIFE
RATHIL THADS
YZRABBIT
ANOASIS
REDYKEULOUS
ZIGFEILDGIRL
TRIBO
FUNANDCUTENICE


I don't think you can count me in. I never did accept Christianity and dropped out of Sunday School after going about three or four times.

Nope. I guess I have always been agnostic since the third grade. bigsmile

Before that, it was just me and Santa Clause.laugh laugh




were you baptized in snow? did you give santa your heart? were you "born again" through the power of christmas? bigsmile

ok jellybean - i was not counting on you to answer this one. but you will answer the next one i'm sure - laugh laugh laugh laugh

tribo's photo
Fri 06/06/08 12:56 PM



SO FAR I'VE GOT 11 INCLUDING MYSELF - CORRECT? ANYMORE?
ABRA
DARK OWL 1
WHAT IS LIFE
RATHIL THADS
YZRABBIT
ANOASIS
REDYKEULOUS
ZIGFEILDGIRL
TRIBO
FUNANDCUTENICE


I don't think you can count me in. I never did accept Christianity and dropped out of Sunday School after going about three or four times.

Nope. I guess I have always been agnostic since the third grade. bigsmile

Before that, it was just me and Santa Clause.laugh laugh




were you baptized in snow? did you give santa your heart? were you "born again" through the power of christmas? bigsmile

ok jellybean - i was not counting on you to answer this one. but you will answer the next one i'm sure - laugh laugh laugh laugh

cherub_girl's photo
Fri 06/06/08 01:14 PM

were you baptized in snow? did you give santa your heart? were you "born again" through the power of christmas? bigsmile

ok jellybean - i was not counting on you to answer this one. but you will answer the next one i'm sure - laugh laugh laugh laugh


I did give my heart to Santa! Was baptized by snow on a yearly basis (I was very devout being from the north and all). Was "Saved" by the power of presents (I was a very materialistic child). THEN at 8, I found out he was a lie! brokenheart sad

Maybe I have more in common with those who once believed in Jesus than I thought!:wink:

tribo's photo
Fri 06/06/08 01:30 PM


were you baptized in snow? did you give santa your heart? were you "born again" through the power of christmas? bigsmile

ok jellybean - i was not counting on you to answer this one. but you will answer the next one i'm sure - laugh laugh laugh laugh


I did give my heart to Santa! Was baptized by snow on a yearly basis (I was very devout being from the north and all). Was "Saved" by the power of presents (I was a very materialistic child). THEN at 8, I found out he was a lie! brokenheart sad

Maybe I have more in common with those who once believed in Jesus than I thought!:wink:


goddess jellybean, you may be right!!!you may have to give up your life of tarotism and repent - why not god did bigsmile flowerforyou

Rapunzel's photo
Fri 06/06/08 01:31 PM



SO FAR I'VE GOT 10 INCLUDING MYSELF - CORRECT? ANYMORE?
ABRA
DARK OWL 1
WHAT IS LIFE
RATHIL THADS
YZRABBIT
ANOASIS
REDYKEULOUS
ZIGFEILDGIRL
TRIBO
FUNANDCUTENICE


I don't think you can count me in. I never did accept Christianity and dropped out of Sunday School after going about three or four times.

Nope. I guess I have always been agnostic since the third grade. bigsmile

Before that, it was just me and Santa Clause.laugh laugh




were you baptized in snow? did you give santa your heart? were you "born again" through the power of christmas? bigsmile

ok jellybean - i was not counting on you to answer this one. but you will answer the next one i'm sure - laugh laugh laugh laugh




"...and don't criticize what you can't understand "huh


by Mr. Bob Dylan smokin drinker smokin

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Fri 06/06/08 01:33 PM
non praticing Catholic but i do believe so i guess i'm half.laugh

Rapunzel's photo
Fri 06/06/08 01:34 PM
You gotta serve somebody...by Mr. Bob Dylan...

You may be an ambassador to England or France,
You may like to gamble, you might like to dance,
You may be the heavyweight champion of the world,
You may be a socialite with a long string of pearls

But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.

You might be a rock 'n' roll addict prancing on the stage,
You might have drugs at your command, women in a cage,
You may be a business man or some high degree thief,
They may call you Doctor or they may call you Chief

But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.

You may be a state trooper, you might be a young Turk,
You may be the head of some big TV network,
You may be rich or poor, you may be blind or lame,
You may be living in another country under another name

But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.

You may be a construction worker working on a home,
You may be living in a mansion or you might live in a dome,
You might own guns and you might even own tanks,
You might be somebody's landlord, you might even own banks

But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.

You may be a preacher with your spiritual pride,
You may be a city councilman taking bribes on the side,
You may be workin' in a barbershop, you may know how to cut hair,
You may be somebody's mistress, may be somebody's heir

But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.

Might like to wear cotton, might like to wear silk,
Might like to drink whiskey, might like to drink milk,
You might like to eat caviar, you might like to eat bread,
You may be sleeping on the floor, sleeping in a king-sized bed

But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.

You may call me Terry, you may call me Timmy,
You may call me Bobby, you may call me Zimmy,
You may call me R.J., you may call me Ray,
You may call me anything but no matter what you say

You're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody.
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.

tribo's photo
Fri 06/06/08 01:34 PM




SO FAR I'VE GOT 10 INCLUDING MYSELF - CORRECT? ANYMORE?
ABRA
DARK OWL 1
WHAT IS LIFE
RATHIL THADS
YZRABBIT
ANOASIS
REDYKEULOUS
ZIGFEILDGIRL
TRIBO
FUNANDCUTENICE


I don't think you can count me in. I never did accept Christianity and dropped out of Sunday School after going about three or four times.

Nope. I guess I have always been agnostic since the third grade. bigsmile

Before that, it was just me and Santa Clause.laugh laugh




were you baptized in snow? did you give santa your heart? were you "born again" through the power of christmas? bigsmile

ok jellybean - i was not counting on you to answer this one. but you will answer the next one i'm sure - laugh laugh laugh laugh




"...and don't criticize what you can't understand "huh


by Mr. Bob Dylan smokin drinker smokin


who are you addressing miss R ???

Rapunzel's photo
Fri 06/06/08 01:39 PM





SO FAR I'VE GOT 10 INCLUDING MYSELF - CORRECT? ANYMORE?
ABRA
DARK OWL 1
WHAT IS LIFE
RATHIL THADS
YZRABBIT
ANOASIS
REDYKEULOUS
ZIGFEILDGIRL
TRIBO
FUNANDCUTENICE


I don't think you can count me in. I never did accept Christianity and dropped out of Sunday School after going about three or four times.

Nope. I guess I have always been agnostic since the third grade. bigsmile

Before that, it was just me and Santa Clause.laugh laugh




were you baptized in snow? did you give santa your heart? were you "born again" through the power of christmas? bigsmile

ok jellybean - i was not counting on you to answer this one. but you will answer the next one i'm sure - laugh laugh laugh laugh




"...and don't criticize what you can't understand "huh


by Mr. Bob Dylan smokin drinker smokin


who are you addressing miss R ???




i was addressing you Mr T. :smile:


please don't make fun noway

of the things some of us hold sacred...:heart:


by BOB DYLAN

"The Times They Are A-Changin'"

Come gather 'round people
Wherever you roam
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You'll be drenched to the bone
If your time to you
Is worth savin'
Then you better start swimmin'
Or you'll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don't stand in the doorway
Don't block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
There's a battle outside
And it is ragin'
It'll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come mothers and fathers
Throughout the land
And don't criticize
What you can't understand
Your sons and your daughters
Are beyond your command
Your old road is
Rapidly agin'
Please get out of the new one
If you can't lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin'.

The line it is drawn
The curse it is cast
The slow one now
Will later be fast
As the present now
Will later be past
The order is
Rapidly fadin'
And the first one now
Will later be last
For the times they are a-changin'.




no photo
Fri 06/06/08 01:55 PM

I personally don't beleive christianity is a religion..or belief that you "practive" i believe it is more of a active lifestyle..not a whole lot of rules to follow...only two.

Love God with are your heart
and love your neighbor as yourself...pretty easy in my humble opinion

There is nobody on earth who loves his or her neighbour like he or she loves himself or herself .Be real , where are you living in planet xyz ?. Did you see the video where a person was killed by a car and people left him there dying with no concern ?.

no photo
Fri 06/06/08 01:57 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 06/06/08 02:05 PM
goddess jellybean, you may be right!!!you may have to give up your life of tarotism and repent - why not god did bigsmile flowerforyou



Tarotism? laugh laugh laugh WOW! a new word. I like it! I like it!

I was never baptized by snow. I only accepted Santa on the word of a trusted parent. I took their word for it. ~~~THEY LIED!!huh

(NEVER AGAIN, I said) When the story of Jesus came along, I just said.... YEH RIGHT!...(NOT). bigsmile noway

Tarot cards are mostly works of art to me. They are also cards. They do not predict future events, they only reveal the energy of the moment... which is the eternal now.

I don't consider them a religion or sacred. But I will chastise anyone to tries to tell me that Satan controls or is behind tarot cards or that they are a tool of the "devil."

That is just a bunch of superstitious nonsense. huh

How they work is very interesting and complex and has to do with the way the mind creates reality with thought.

I don't know all the details. I just have faith. bigsmile

flowerforyou Jeanniedrinker

tribo's photo
Fri 06/06/08 01:59 PM






SO FAR I'VE GOT 10 INCLUDING MYSELF - CORRECT? ANYMORE?
ABRA
DARK OWL 1
WHAT IS LIFE
RATHIL THADS
YZRABBIT
ANOASIS
REDYKEULOUS
ZIGFEILDGIRL
TRIBO
FUNANDCUTENICE


I don't think you can count me in. I never did accept Christianity and dropped out of Sunday School after going about three or four times.

Nope. I guess I have always been agnostic since the third grade. bigsmile

Before that, it was just me and Santa Clause.laugh laugh




were you baptized in snow? did you give santa your heart? were you "born again" through the power of christmas? bigsmile

ok jellybean - i was not counting on you to answer this one. but you will answer the next one i'm sure - laugh laugh laugh laugh




"...and don't criticize what you can't understand "huh


by Mr. Bob Dylan smokin drinker smokin


who are you addressing miss R ???




i was addressing you Mr T. :smile:


please don't make fun noway

of the things some of us hold sacred...:heart:


by BOB DYLAN

"The Times They Are A-Changin'"

Come gather 'round people
Wherever you roam
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You'll be drenched to the bone
If your time to you
Is worth savin'
Then you better start swimmin'
Or you'll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don't stand in the doorway
Don't block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
There's a battle outside
And it is ragin'
It'll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come mothers and fathers
Throughout the land
And don't criticize
What you can't understand
Your sons and your daughters
Are beyond your command
Your old road is
Rapidly agin'
Please get out of the new one
If you can't lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin'.

The line it is drawn
The curse it is cast
The slow one now
Will later be fast
As the present now
Will later be past
The order is
Rapidly fadin'
And the first one now
Will later be last
For the times they are a-changin'.






hmmm??

i find that interesting you would use the lyrics from bob dylan - a jewish poet/songster that became saved, born again, and then walked away from it for much the same reasons i did? odd huh?

why do you think that is rapunzel??

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