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Topic: ????yes or no 2 abortions????
LadyOfMagic Joined Fri 09/29/06 Posts: 4957	Sun 06/01/08 11:56 AM
yer a man its not your choice I've been waiting on someone to say that..Thank you Tina!

Lied2TimedSweetie Joined Tue 10/30/07 Posts: 158	Sun 06/01/08 11:57 AM
Well, hell, if the child WERE "Created" out of rape and violence...well, yea, that OBVIOUSLY was wrong but why make a second wrong by aborting the baby? There is this WONDERFUL thing you can do instead of taking a defenseless and helpless little infant's life...its called ADOPTION!

Kleisto Joined Tue 05/13/08 Posts: 5704	Sun 06/01/08 11:57 AM Edited by Kleisto on Sun 06/01/08 11:57 AM
I don't think that's fair, just because we're guys, means are thoughts mean nothing, or don't count?

itsmetina Joined Sun 12/09/07 Posts: 18944	Sun 06/01/08 11:58 AM
yer a man its not your choice I've been waiting on someone to say that..Thank you Tina! yep all that needs to be said

DebbieJT Joined Mon 11/26/07 Posts: 10329	Sun 06/01/08 11:59 AM
i dont agree with abortion..but and this is a big but here are cases its needed and requiered..sometimes theres as a choice and sometimes there isnt I disagree, there's always a choice. No one is holding a gun to a person's head saying they have to kill their baby. thats very black and white view on life..there isnt always choices..life isnt that simple ..theirs alot of grey areas with this and individual cases have to be looked at like someone said earlier a child been raped by her father been made to go threw pregnancy and childbirth..isnt right..it will ruin both lives Again, as I said, 20 years later is she gonna regret having the kid? I think not. And yes, there is always a choice, no matter what the situation is, you can go in either direction here. no she wont regret it because she will probably be to screwed up with life hun...and as said there are still times when you dont have a choice...but i guess we will have to disagree on this...oh one more thing though how will the baby feel when it finds out its dad is its grandad as well How can you not have a choice? Again, no one is forcing you to kill your kid, I don't care what the circumstances are. As for her life being screwed up, maybe it would be and maybe it wouldn't. But at least she'd have something good that came out of a traumatic experience. a constant reminder of what her dad did to her yeh comforting...as said it isnt black and white

lilangel2 Joined Wed 03/05/08 Posts: 9096	Sun 06/01/08 12:00 PM
yer a man its not your choice I've been waiting on someone to say that..Thank you Tina! murder should be no ones choice! Like I said , why not kill the rapist??? He is the criminal...Oooooh i forgot...that would not be politically correct! Babies are easy targets...especially all snuggled up inside a womb where you really can't even see them suck their thumbs...

Lied2TimedSweetie Joined Tue 10/30/07 Posts: 158	Sun 06/01/08 12:01 PM
When a fetus has a heartbeat, which i believe is by the end of the first month, it is obviusly LIVING. Abortions are usually done, when, around 3 months? I dont belive the government should have the right to tell a woman what to do with HER BODY but at the same time...aborting an unborn child thats living...I'm sorry, didnt we used to call that MURDER?

lilangel2 Joined Wed 03/05/08 Posts: 9096	Sun 06/01/08 12:01 PM Edited by lilangel2 on Sun 06/01/08 12:02 PM
i dont agree with abortion..but and this is a big but here are cases its needed and requiered..sometimes theres as a choice and sometimes there isnt I disagree, there's always a choice. No one is holding a gun to a person's head saying they have to kill their baby. thats very black and white view on life..there isnt always choices..life isnt that simple ..theirs alot of grey areas with this and individual cases have to be looked at like someone said earlier a child been raped by her father been made to go threw pregnancy and childbirth..isnt right..it will ruin both lives Again, as I said, 20 years later is she gonna regret having the kid? I think not. And yes, there is always a choice, no matter what the situation is, you can go in either direction here. no she wont regret it because she will probably be to screwed up with life hun...and as said there are still times when you dont have a choice...but i guess we will have to disagree on this...oh one more thing though how will the baby feel when it finds out its dad is its grandad as well How can you not have a choice? Again, no one is forcing you to kill your kid, I don't care what the circumstances are. As for her life being screwed up, maybe it would be and maybe it wouldn't. But at least she'd have something good that came out of a traumatic experience. a constant reminder of what her dad did to her yeh comforting...as said it isnt black and white ...how about the constant reminder of murdering her baby? ADOPTION in only choice.

feistybaby Joined Fri 04/25/08 Posts: 2422	Sun 06/01/08 12:02 PM
I think it is a matter of choice for myself it's a big no I couldn't do it. But there is an old quote " I may not agree with your opinions but I will defend unto death your right to have them~

bgeorge Joined Fri 09/14/07 Posts: 7850	Sun 06/01/08 12:02 PM
yes...that was never an option i even considered...but i know women who have had it done because it was the right choice for them...and i do agree w/kleisto that the father should have a say so...but in the two cases i'm familiar with...the fathers didn't want to step up...

lilangel2 Joined Wed 03/05/08 Posts: 9096	Sun 06/01/08 12:02 PM
I think it is a matter of choice for myself it's a big no I couldn't do it. But there is an old quote " I may not agree with your opinions but I will defend unto death your right to have them~ I will never defend murder.

itsmetina Joined Sun 12/09/07 Posts: 18944	Sun 06/01/08 12:03 PM
yer a man its not your choice I've been waiting on someone to say that..Thank you Tina! murder should be no ones choice! Like I said , why not kill the rapist??? He is the criminal...Oooooh i forgot...that would not be politically correct! Babies are easy targets...especially all snuggled up inside a womb where you really can't even see them suck their thumbs... i just accept that under the law its a woman's choice.if you make you live with it

Lied2TimedSweetie Joined Tue 10/30/07 Posts: 158	Sun 06/01/08 12:03 PM
Hence, if MURDER is illegal...and if taking a life obviously is murder...why isn't abortion illegal? Oh thats right, because our system is jacked up.

DebbieJT Joined Mon 11/26/07 Posts: 10329	Sun 06/01/08 12:03 PM
i dont agree with abortion..but and this is a big but here are cases its needed and requiered..sometimes theres as a choice and sometimes there isnt I disagree, there's always a choice. No one is holding a gun to a person's head saying they have to kill their baby. thats very black and white view on life..there isnt always choices..life isnt that simple ..theirs alot of grey areas with this and individual cases have to be looked at like someone said earlier a child been raped by her father been made to go threw pregnancy and childbirth..isnt right..it will ruin both lives Again, as I said, 20 years later is she gonna regret having the kid? I think not. And yes, there is always a choice, no matter what the situation is, you can go in either direction here. no she wont regret it because she will probably be to screwed up with life hun...and as said there are still times when you dont have a choice...but i guess we will have to disagree on this...oh one more thing though how will the baby feel when it finds out its dad is its grandad as well How can you not have a choice? Again, no one is forcing you to kill your kid, I don't care what the circumstances are. As for her life being screwed up, maybe it would be and maybe it wouldn't. But at least she'd have something good that came out of a traumatic experience. a constant reminder of what her dad did to her yeh comforting...as said it isnt black and white ...how about the constant reminder of murdering her baby? ADOPTION in only choice. if its her fathers baby its going not going to feel part of her anyhow..she will be too traumatesed by it all

Kleisto Joined Tue 05/13/08 Posts: 5704	Sun 06/01/08 12:04 PM
i dont agree with abortion..but and this is a big but here are cases its needed and requiered..sometimes theres as a choice and sometimes there isnt I disagree, there's always a choice. No one is holding a gun to a person's head saying they have to kill their baby. thats very black and white view on life..there isnt always choices..life isnt that simple ..theirs alot of grey areas with this and individual cases have to be looked at like someone said earlier a child been raped by her father been made to go threw pregnancy and childbirth..isnt right..it will ruin both lives Again, as I said, 20 years later is she gonna regret having the kid? I think not. And yes, there is always a choice, no matter what the situation is, you can go in either direction here. no she wont regret it because she will probably be to screwed up with life hun...and as said there are still times when you dont have a choice...but i guess we will have to disagree on this...oh one more thing though how will the baby feel when it finds out its dad is its grandad as well How can you not have a choice? Again, no one is forcing you to kill your kid, I don't care what the circumstances are. As for her life being screwed up, maybe it would be and maybe it wouldn't. But at least she'd have something good that came out of a traumatic experience. a constant reminder of what her dad did to her yeh comforting...as said it isnt black and white Yes but it would be even worse, knowing you not only got raped by your dad, but at killed your baby too. At least you got something beautiful from a bad situation.

lilangel2 Joined Wed 03/05/08 Posts: 9096	Sun 06/01/08 12:05 PM
yer a man its not your choice I've been waiting on someone to say that..Thank you Tina! murder should be no ones choice! Like I said , why not kill the rapist??? He is the criminal...Oooooh i forgot...that would not be politically correct! Babies are easy targets...especially all snuggled up inside a womb where you really can't even see them suck their thumbs... i just accept that under the law its a woman's choice.if you make you live with it anything can be made law...depends on the degradation of the polpulace at any one time.

plk1966 Joined Fri 03/21/08 Posts: 31042	Sun 06/01/08 12:05 PM Edited by plk1966 on Sun 06/01/08 12:07 PM
As a person who had to make that choice 20 yrs ago, I can honestly say that you do not know what your decision will be until you are in that situation. I didn't want to have a child and it was agreed that we would abort. Let me tell everyone, that was the hardest decision I have ever had to make. And though every thing was set when it came down to the wire I couldn't go through with it. My daughter is now 22 yrs old. She knows all about the choices and the agony I went through with this decision. And yes there were hard times but I have never regretted my decision in her entire lifetime. And now have the most beautiful set of twin grandsons in the world. So even though there is alot of controversy over this issue it is still a personal choice.

lilangel2 Joined Wed 03/05/08 Posts: 9096	Sun 06/01/08 12:06 PM
i dont agree with abortion..but and this is a big but here are cases its needed and requiered..sometimes theres as a choice and sometimes there isnt I disagree, there's always a choice. No one is holding a gun to a person's head saying they have to kill their baby. thats very black and white view on life..there isnt always choices..life isnt that simple ..theirs alot of grey areas with this and individual cases have to be looked at like someone said earlier a child been raped by her father been made to go threw pregnancy and childbirth..isnt right..it will ruin both lives Again, as I said, 20 years later is she gonna regret having the kid? I think not. And yes, there is always a choice, no matter what the situation is, you can go in either direction here. no she wont regret it because she will probably be to screwed up with life hun...and as said there are still times when you dont have a choice...but i guess we will have to disagree on this...oh one more thing though how will the baby feel when it finds out its dad is its grandad as well How can you not have a choice? Again, no one is forcing you to kill your kid, I don't care what the circumstances are. As for her life being screwed up, maybe it would be and maybe it wouldn't. But at least she'd have something good that came out of a traumatic experience. a constant reminder of what her dad did to her yeh comforting...as said it isnt black and white ...how about the constant reminder of murdering her baby? ADOPTION in only choice. if its her fathers baby its going not going to feel part of her anyhow..she will be too traumatesed by it all It isn't all about HOW SHE feels...there is someone else in the equation!

LadyOfMagic Joined Fri 09/29/06 Posts: 4957	Sun 06/01/08 12:06 PM
I can't believe this has gone on for 9pgs..Bye y'all.

Lied2TimedSweetie Joined Tue 10/30/07 Posts: 158	Sun 06/01/08 12:07 PM
....so that makes it okay for her to kill her unborn child? Wow, people these days. Okay, so if her father raped her...she gets pregnant...she doesnt want her child...again...this beautiful thing called ADOPTION is still the best option. Unless, of course, she wants to be a selfish little P.O.S and abort her child...then by all means, please do. But I'd sure hope she could deal with the emotional distress she has brought upon herself, even moreso than just the rape alone.