Topic: Just pissing me off................
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Sat 05/31/08 06:07 PM
So big deal. If he wants to sin all he needs to do is go sin, then come back and kill a few lambs and all is forgiven.


LOL laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

Poor lambs... sad

Jeanniebean suggests that maybe aliens were involved. I can certainly understand her reasoning there. Maybe there were actual beings that did want food, so they requested blood sacrifices. However, I have to honestly say that I don't buy into that one either.


You should see some of the evidence I have found that supports the existence of reptilians. Ancient drawings of these creatures raping women, statues of them holding young... not to mention modern day eye witness reports.

You can download David Icke's book if you want: here for free:
"The Biggest Secret" but I warn you, it is really mind blowing information. Is it true? I don't know... but so much of the information is right on target it will shock you.

http://www.bacaracka.com/books/

JB






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Sat 05/31/08 06:09 PM

As to your draconian thought's i dont remeber reading that in the bible, or are we changing subject matter here?????


Not changing the subject at all. Just trying to make sense out of information gathered. I give all information credit for having some purpose and I evaluate all information, not just the Bible. Although the Bible does speak of the serpent who walked like a man in the Garden of Eden and of fallen angels who mated with human women. These could have been reptilians or draconian gods spoken about by others.




good points - i still stick to the theory of parallel universes and multi - dimensionalism concepts till something more provocative comes along.In that scenario when universe coolide they "could" allow all the un-explained phenomina that we here expierience to be let through to this plane be it draconian's/ufo's/ghost/crop circles/miracles/alien's/sasquatch/nessy/ or even abra:tongue: I personally believe abra was sent here to start another round of blood sacrifices - so far all the women here have issued blood and i believe it's just the beginning laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

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Sat 05/31/08 06:19 PM

I personally believe abra was sent here to start another round of blood sacrifices - so far all the women here have issued blood and i believe it's just the beginning laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh


Damn, I've been found out! glasses

Owl have to go back now and ask for a different cover. bigsmile

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Sat 05/31/08 06:20 PM
JB - i just downloaded book - so you go for the blonde handsome guru''s huh?? hahahahahahahaha

no wonder you belive in his writing's :tongue:

he could sell you rotten pork and you'd buy it!!

DR. phil - me up please!!!!

and no! i haven't read it yet - i think i'll wait till some asian goddess comes out with a reprint and update - laugh

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Sat 05/31/08 06:21 PM


As to your draconian thought's i dont remeber reading that in the bible, or are we changing subject matter here?????


Not changing the subject at all. Just trying to make sense out of information gathered. I give all information credit for having some purpose and I evaluate all information, not just the Bible. Although the Bible does speak of the serpent who walked like a man in the Garden of Eden and of fallen angels who mated with human women. These could have been reptilians or draconian gods spoken about by others.




good points - i still stick to the theory of parallel universes and multi - dimensionalism concepts till something more provocative comes along.In that scenario when universe coolide they "could" allow all the un-explained phenomina that we here expierience to be let through to this plane be it draconian's/ufo's/ghost/crop circles/miracles/alien's/sasquatch/nessy/ or even abra:tongue: I personally believe abra was sent here to start another round of blood sacrifices - so far all the women here have issued blood and i believe it's just the beginning laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh


Your theory of parallel universes and other dimensions is right on. In fact, the reptilians can move back and forth between our world and theirs. So can the UFO's. They go through vortexes.

You should read the book "Hunt for the Skinwalker" It is a story about strange goings on at a ranch that was investigated by an independent investigative group.

The operations going on underground at that ranch recently moved to my state, here near Peterson Air force base. There are lots of strange stuff going on here. I don't live near there anymore, I moved down to the corner of the state. I used to work as a private investigator in Colorado Springs.

I myself was investigated and followed when I placed an ad for my investigative services in the paper. They just wanted to know exactly what I was investigating. They even had my phone tapped. (No I am not paranoid.)

It's not paranoia if they really are following you.. laugh laugh laugh

Henry Kissinger once said: "Yes, there is a THEY and they are out to get us." laugh laugh


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Sat 05/31/08 06:22 PM


I personally believe abra was sent here to start another round of blood sacrifices - so far all the women here have issued blood and i believe it's just the beginning laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh


Damn, I've been found out! glasses

Owl have to go back now and ask for a different cover. bigsmile


you draconian devil you !!!!!!

i knew it!!!!

ok go and leave us all here to suffer!!!

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Sat 05/31/08 06:29 PM

JB - i just downloaded book - so you go for the blonde handsome guru''s huh?? hahahahahahahaha

no wonder you belive in his writing's :tongue:

he could sell you rotten pork and you'd buy it!!

DR. phil - me up please!!!!

and no! i haven't read it yet - i think i'll wait till some asian goddess comes out with a reprint and update - laugh


As I have said, I read and consider all information. David Icke is what I classify one of the "white lighters."

I am sure there is some reason they allow him to continue his work but I don't know what it is. He has many devoted fans, and many who just make fun of him. He claims to be for love and light and all that but he does stir people up and keeps the battle raging between to forces of darkness and the forces of light. Both these extremes want to destroy each other.

JB


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Sat 05/31/08 06:32 PM



As to your draconian thought's i dont remeber reading that in the bible, or are we changing subject matter here?????


Not changing the subject at all. Just trying to make sense out of information gathered. I give all information credit for having some purpose and I evaluate all information, not just the Bible. Although the Bible does speak of the serpent who walked like a man in the Garden of Eden and of fallen angels who mated with human women. These could have been reptilians or draconian gods spoken about by others.




good points - i still stick to the theory of parallel universes and multi - dimensionalism concepts till something more provocative comes along.In that scenario when universe coolide they "could" allow all the un-explained phenomina that we here expierience to be let through to this plane be it draconian's/ufo's/ghost/crop circles/miracles/alien's/sasquatch/nessy/ or even abra:tongue: I personally believe abra was sent here to start another round of blood sacrifices - so far all the women here have issued blood and i believe it's just the beginning laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh


Your theory of parallel universes and other dimensions is right on. In fact, the reptilians can move back and forth between our world and theirs. So can the UFO's. They go through vortexes.

You should read the book "Hunt for the Skinwalker" It is a story about strange goings on at a ranch that was investigated by an independent investigative group.

The operations going on underground at that ranch recently moved to my state, here near Peterson Air force base. There are lots of strange stuff going on here. I don't live near there anymore, I moved down to the corner of the state. I used to work as a private investigator in Colorado Springs.

I myself was investigated and followed when I placed an ad for my investigative services in the paper. They just wanted to know exactly what I was investigating. They even had my phone tapped. (No I am not paranoid.)

It's not paranoia if they really are following you.. laugh laugh laugh

Henry Kissinger once said: "Yes, there is a THEY and they are out to get us." laugh laugh




my mom worked at los alamos in the early 50's, just recently before she died she told me she had seen the alien bodies at area 51 along with the craft, if it was anyone but her i would be skeptical - but i had never know her to lie - i cant prove what im saying past recording her saying it - but i do know she had top clearence there - and her crew - while working on the H-bomb - of which she was not aware of or the other's till it was completed. She kept that secret up to about 3 months before her death. I had asked her many years before about what she did at los alamos but she repeatedly said she could not talk about it so i was quite surprised when she finally told me that - as far as i know only me and my nephew knew this.strange huh??

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Sat 05/31/08 06:46 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 05/31/08 06:47 PM
my mom worked at los alamos in the early 50's, just recently before she died she told me she had seen the alien bodies at area 51 along with the craft, if it was anyone but her i would be skeptical - but i had never know her to lie - i cant prove what im saying past recording her saying it - but i do know she had top clearence there - and her crew - while working on the H-bomb - of which she was not aware of or the other's till it was completed. She kept that secret up to about 3 months before her death. I had asked her many years before about what she did at los alamos but she repeatedly said she could not talk about it so i was quite surprised when she finally told me that - as far as i know only me and my nephew knew this.strange huh??


Not that strange. I've heard many such stories. Too many to ignore in fact. I know people who claim repeated abductions etc.

For some, it is not a question of do aliens exist. The question now is are they going to enslave the human race and then eat us. laugh laugh laugh

huh I laugh because it sounds so ridiculous.




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Sat 05/31/08 06:49 PM

my mom worked at los alamos in the early 50's, just recently before she died she told me she had seen the alien bodies at area 51 along with the craft, if it was anyone but her i would be skeptical - but i had never know her to lie - i cant prove what im saying past recording her saying it - but i do know she had top clearence there - and her crew - while working on the H-bomb - of which she was not aware of or the other's till it was completed. She kept that secret up to about 3 months before her death. I had asked her many years before about what she did at los alamos but she repeatedly said she could not talk about it so i was quite surprised when she finally told me that - as far as i know only me and my nephew knew this.strange huh??


Not that strange. I've heard many such stories. Too many to ignore in fact. I know people who claim repeated abductions etc.

For some, it is not a question of do aliens exist. The question now is are they going to enslave the human race and then eat us. laugh laugh laugh

huh I laugh because it sounds so ridiculous.






ummmmmm!!! tribolicious with jellybean gravy - yummmmmmmlaugh

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Sat 05/31/08 06:50 PM
well there goes this thread - :smile:

what other unanswered questions did you have any??

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Sat 05/31/08 06:59 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 05/31/08 07:04 PM

well there goes this thread - :smile:

what other unanswered questions did you have any??


Does the God of Abraham (and Adam) practice and believe in culling the races through the use of genocide?

If not, then what was the battle of Jericho all about?

My question to Christians has always been, how do you explain the mass slaughter of the people who lived in the promised land and do you condone the murder of men women and children there?

The usual answer I get is "that was a long time ago, the people were worshiping the wrong god, sacrificing babies etc. In other words, they needed killin' cause they were "evil." bigsmile

After all this ~genocide~ it is still going on in this world. People are still being bombed and killed to drive them from that land so Israel can expand their borders.

JB

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Sat 05/31/08 07:03 PM
Genocide:

I might also mention that if you read the Urantia book, they talk about genocide, although they don't call it that.

They condone it and practice it as a way to "purify" the bloodlines living on the earth.

They make the creators holier than thou and make the claim that they have the power of life and death over any race on earth and they claim to be totally justified and sanctified by God to do this.

This from the Urantia Book.

JB

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Sat 05/31/08 07:26 PM

Or athiest, or lesbian, or gay.

Kat


or Black, or a Woman, or Hispanic, or Asian, or from India, or German or Fat, or Ugly, or Short, or a Geek/Nerd, or a Biker, or Handicap, or a sports car driver, or a Volvo driver, or a stripper, or a Pilot, or a Rock Star, the stereotyping, grouping, or prejudice goes on and on and on but it's the way we all handle the situations that inspire others to do the same wether it be bad or good now this ripple effect is powerful. for he who cast the first stone will have a big or small effect on the emotional universe we live in long after they've gone home. It's funny people have a habit of not remembering what you did as much as remembering how they felt about what you did. So planting a seed fed by positive emotions can grow as large as an old oak tree and over shadow anything else below it. But the growth is slow so be patient and keep feeding the cause.

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Sat 05/31/08 07:33 PM


well there goes this thread - :smile:

what other unanswered questions did you have any??


Does the God of Abraham (and Adam) practice and believe in culling the races through the use of genocide?

If not, then what was the battle of Jericho all about?

My question to Christians has always been, how do you explain the mass slaughter of the people who lived in the promised land and do you condone the murder of men women and children there?

The usual answer I get is "that was a long time ago, the people were worshiping the wrong god, sacrificing babies etc. In other words, they needed killin' cause they were "evil." bigsmile

After all this ~genocide~ it is still going on in this world. People are still being bombed and killed to drive them from that land so Israel can expand their borders.

JB


From a "god of adam abraham point of view i would have to say this - God is the creator and as such he know's "all thing's" If he felt it was necessary to destroy those in the land of promise to allow his "chosen people" ( remember he states he chose them because they were the worst example of people on the earth) to dwell there in the land of milk and honey - it was to show his might as the all powerful god he is. Do you not think that which is the creator should have the right to do as he wishes with his creation?? he gives life and he takes life as he see's fit - it is not for us to judge god but to praise him and worship him!!! If you created something that turned against your own righteous way's - would you not have the right to destroy them if you wished? God is a vengeful god to those who do what is against his will and a loving god to those who do - just as parent's scold their children god does so with us - only we have no right to take life because we cannot produce/create it - but god does retain that right!! To say or believe god is wrong in taking life as he see's fit is to say he cannot do all that he pleases which makes him less than "GOD" !!! If your going to believe in the god of the bible hen you must understand that all!! god does is in accordence with all he is - you cannot seperate out one aspect of god and make him smaller than he is - you must look at al the facet's that make up his character - he is loving,vain,vengeful,all powerful,all knowing,all present at all times and in all things.He cannot just go around killing people for no reason, nor can he love sin and allow it in his presence, he is all pure without blemish or sin. he always acts in accord with all he is and never sins because nothing he does is without balance with the rest of what he does or who he is!!

what goes on today is the same as then - it is not god doing the killing it is man and his inherent selfishness, brought about by free will however limited you may deem this to be. If man never sinned there would be no killing by god or anyone - sin - selfcenteredness is the blame here not a blood thirsty god or a non caring god, god would rather that none perish, that all would believe and follow his ways, don't blame god - blame man - that includes you as well - mankind!!

how was that bigsmile

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Sat 05/31/08 07:54 PM

So big deal. If he wants to sin all he needs to do is go sin, then come back and kill a few lambs and all is forgiven.


LOL laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

Poor lambs... sad

Jeanniebean suggests that maybe aliens were involved. I can certainly understand her reasoning there. Maybe there were actual beings that did want food, so they requested blood sacrifices. However, I have to honestly say that I don't buy into that one either.


You should see some of the evidence I have found that supports the existence of reptilians. Ancient drawings of these creatures raping women, statues of them holding young... not to mention modern day eye witness reports.

You can download David Icke's book if you want: here for free:
"The Biggest Secret" but I warn you, it is really mind blowing information. Is it true? I don't know... but so much of the information is right on target it will shock you.

http://www.bacaracka.com/books/

JB










Alex Jones is much better than David Icke. But that's jmo. flowerforyou



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Sat 05/31/08 08:08 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 05/31/08 08:09 PM



well there goes this thread - :smile:

what other unanswered questions did you have any??


Does the God of Abraham (and Adam) practice and believe in culling the races through the use of genocide?

If not, then what was the battle of Jericho all about?

My question to Christians has always been, how do you explain the mass slaughter of the people who lived in the promised land and do you condone the murder of men women and children there?

The usual answer I get is "that was a long time ago, the people were worshiping the wrong god, sacrificing babies etc. In other words, they needed killin' cause they were "evil." bigsmile

After all this ~genocide~ it is still going on in this world. People are still being bombed and killed to drive them from that land so Israel can expand their borders.

JB


From a "god of adam abraham point of view i would have to say this - God is the creator and as such he know's "all thing's" If he felt it was necessary to destroy those in the land of promise to allow his "chosen people" ( remember he states he chose them because they were the worst example of people on the earth) to dwell there in the land of milk and honey - it was to show his might as the all powerful god he is. Do you not think that which is the creator should have the right to do as he wishes with his creation?? he gives life and he takes life as he see's fit - it is not for us to judge god but to praise him and worship him!!! If you created something that turned against your own righteous way's - would you not have the right to destroy them if you wished? God is a vengeful god to those who do what is against his will and a loving god to those who do - just as parent's scold their children god does so with us - only we have no right to take life because we cannot produce/create it - but god does retain that right!! To say or believe god is wrong in taking life as he see's fit is to say he cannot do all that he pleases which makes him less than "GOD" !!! If your going to believe in the god of the bible hen you must understand that all!! god does is in accordence with all he is - you cannot seperate out one aspect of god and make him smaller than he is - you must look at al the facet's that make up his character - he is loving,vain,vengeful,all powerful,all knowing,all present at all times and in all things.He cannot just go around killing people for no reason, nor can he love sin and allow it in his presence, he is all pure without blemish or sin. he always acts in accord with all he is and never sins because nothing he does is without balance with the rest of what he does or who he is!!

what goes on today is the same as then - it is not god doing the killing it is man and his inherent selfishness, brought about by free will however limited you may deem this to be. If man never sinned there would be no killing by god or anyone - sin - selfcenteredness is the blame here not a blood thirsty god or a non caring god, god would rather that none perish, that all would believe and follow his ways, don't blame god - blame man - that includes you as well - mankind!!

how was that bigsmile


So your answer is YES, then? The God of Abraham does condone genocide and the culling of "evil" people and bloodlines and people who would dare to worship a different god.

If so, then, why did he have to enlist Joshua's army to do it?
Why did the all mighty God simply waved his hand and have everyone drop dead of a heart attack?



Do you not think that which is the creator should have the right to do as he wishes with his creation??


No I think not.

(If cloning were legal and I created some clones, do you think I would have the legal and moral right to kill them if I decided to? )

I don't think that any so-called creator god should have that right either because of "free" will. Perhaps the people prefer to live. If so, to kill them would be to rob them of their "free" will.

I guess this answer might wash with someone who actually believed that God was behind the slaughter and ordered it, but I still think it was wrong. Hence they gasp at my audacity to judge the almighty god for doing this huh

But I think any god that I might worship should at least have more compassion and love than I do. huh

I imagine being one of Joshua's soldiers given the orders to take my sword and behead all the women and babies in the city. I think not. I don't think so. Sorry, I quit. Nope, I will sign with Lucifer himself before I would slaughter people like that.

You know what happened to the soldiers who refused? They were put to death. A real nice guy Joshua.:angry:

JB



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Sat 05/31/08 09:34 PM
"So your answer is YES, then? The God of Abraham does condone genocide and the culling of "evil" people and bloodlines and people who would dare to worship a different god.

If so, then, why did he have to enlist Joshua's army to do it?
Why did the all mighty God simply waved his hand and have everyone drop dead of a heart attack?" jb

BISHOP TRIBO REPLIES :)

No he does not condone "genocide or murder - murder and killing are 2 different thing's - If i decide i want to kill all my sheep as the shepard - i have the right to do so - they are my sheep and if i want to eat them i will!! but!! if i slaughter my sheep without any intention of doing anything with them afterword's but let them rot in the sun - in other word's for the sake of murder - then i would be a bad shepard. and i should have my sheep taken away. case in point the unimaginable slaughter of nearly all the bison here in america by buffalo hunters that took the hides and left the carcasses to rot on the plains. that's "murder" - the taking of the lives of thousands of cattle, pig's,chicken's,and other for food - that is killing. God kills he does not murder.He has the same rights as he gave us to kill, only as creator - he also does this in a sinless way - there is no pleasure he gains from murder or killing - he is not a blood thirsty god.No more than farmers are blood thirsty animal killer's.If that dont work for you - then any living organism will do.plants,algea,etc..as to your analogy of clones - you are not there creator - creator means making something from nothing and no!! you dont have the right to take a living being's life - only god retain's or has that right and he does it judicially!! God see the final outcome of his actions something we cannot do - so he knows perfectly what action's to take to have the outcome he want's. It is god's outcome - and we have no say in the matter for we cannot see what the end result's will be.

As creator - he can take whatever actions he desires that do not go against his own perfect nature to accomplish what he knows needs to be - if he want to give believers the land and kill those who have sinned all there lives the killing boot - it is not for us to judge - we cannot know the mind of god. So far all your questions have been strawmen - gossemer arguments - yu will never know the ways of god from outside his realm - you must accept him into your heart and then he will reveal himself to you personally. once you "know god personally - these questions will not be problimatic for you - have faith first and knowledge will come afterwards when your eyes have been open - " i was blind but now i see"

As to joshua - god did not have to use him to perform the acts you speak of - it was just his choice in the matter he is god he could have done it himself he had before - but joshua was a godly man and god chose to use him for that purpose and others and as you state - even those who followed after gods word could be smitten/killed by god or others in he put in charge for even grumbling about gods ways - he was teaching those that he meant what he said and if they dis-obeyed him they would suffer the consequences which were layed out for all to know in advance of ever reaching the promised land or those places on there way to it.Keep in mind - he has not killed you yet - even though you rail against him daily!!! If he is as bad as you make him out to be - then explain why you and millions of others are alive today? you cant - gods patience is long suffering was it not we would all be dead, but god wishes that "no one will perish but believe on his only begotten sun and have eternal life!!

From his most holy : tribo

did i do good???bigsmile



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Sat 05/31/08 09:39 PM
sorry JB its 1 am here gotta go to bed - eave your reply and i will laugh later.

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Sat 05/31/08 10:16 PM

"So your answer is YES, then? The God of Abraham does condone genocide and the culling of "evil" people and bloodlines and people who would dare to worship a different god.

If so, then, why did he have to enlist Joshua's army to do it?
Why did the all mighty God simply waved his hand and have everyone drop dead of a heart attack?" jb

BISHOP TRIBO REPLIES :)

No he does not condone "genocide or murder - murder and killing are 2 different thing's - If i decide i want to kill all my sheep as the shepard - i have the right to do so - they are my sheep and if i want to eat them i will!! but!! if i slaughter my sheep without any intention of doing anything with them afterword's but let them rot in the sun - in other word's for the sake of murder - then i would be a bad shepard. and i should have my sheep taken away. case in point the unimaginable slaughter of nearly all the bison here in america by buffalo hunters that took the hides and left the carcasses to rot on the plains. that's "murder" - the taking of the lives of thousands of cattle, pig's,chicken's,and other for food - that is killing. God kills he does not murder.He has the same rights as he gave us to kill, only as creator - he also does this in a sinless way - there is no pleasure he gains from murder or killing - he is not a blood thirsty god.No more than farmers are blood thirsty animal killer's.If that dont work for you - then any living organism will do.plants,algea,etc..as to your analogy of clones - you are not there creator - creator means making something from nothing and no!! you dont have the right to take a living being's life - only god retain's or has that right and he does it judicially!! God see the final outcome of his actions something we cannot do - so he knows perfectly what action's to take to have the outcome he want's. It is god's outcome - and we have no say in the matter for we cannot see what the end result's will be.

As creator - he can take whatever actions he desires that do not go against his own perfect nature to accomplish what he knows needs to be - if he want to give believers the land and kill those who have sinned all there lives the killing boot - it is not for us to judge - we cannot know the mind of god. So far all your questions have been strawmen - gossemer arguments - yu will never know the ways of god from outside his realm - you must accept him into your heart and then he will reveal himself to you personally. once you "know god personally - these questions will not be problimatic for you - have faith first and knowledge will come afterwards when your eyes have been open - " i was blind but now i see"

As to joshua - god did not have to use him to perform the acts you speak of - it was just his choice in the matter he is god he could have done it himself he had before - but joshua was a godly man and god chose to use him for that purpose and others and as you state - even those who followed after gods word could be smitten/killed by god or others in he put in charge for even grumbling about gods ways - he was teaching those that he meant what he said and if they dis-obeyed him they would suffer the consequences which were layed out for all to know in advance of ever reaching the promised land or those places on there way to it.Keep in mind - he has not killed you yet - even though you rail against him daily!!! If he is as bad as you make him out to be - then explain why you and millions of others are alive today? you cant - gods patience is long suffering was it not we would all be dead, but god wishes that "no one will perish but believe on his only begotten sun and have eternal life!!

From his most holy : tribo

did i do good???bigsmile





Your replies to Jeannie's questions were all Excellent, Triboflowerforyou

God Bless You ,Tribo.....:heart: