Interesting topic here. Are there any other Christian that care to comment. Seems like non Christian type folks are on this topic. I have to believe that most non-Christian folks will bash Christian folks no matter what kind of stance you take. They hate the idea of Jesus being who he is to Christians. I don't worry about them doing what they do. Christ himself foretold of the madness long time ago. They did it to him, so what will make others who profess to be Christians be excluded from this?

Interesting topic here. Are there any other Christian that care to comment. Seems like non Christian type folks are on this topic. I have to believe that most non-Christian folks will bash Christian folks no matter what kind of stance you take. They hate the idea of Jesus being who he is to Christians. I don't worry about them doing what they do. Christ himself foretold of the madness long time ago. They did it to him, so what will make others who profess to be Christians be excluded from this?

Amen brother!

Lindy tells it like it is when she said,

In these threads, non Christians try to 'cover up' bashing by saying it is "discussion" conversation, madness.

Rather that ask someone who is in authority the questions they have, which isnt their motivation at all, they look for company and justification to continue the life they have chosen.

Why I can only guess, pride, denial, maybe an unwillingness to change, or perhaps an unsubstantiated since of worth and self-proclaimed superiority of knowledge. Whatever it may be it reflects in every post they make.

What do you mean by someone who is in Authority Fanta? Are you saying that there are only a few Christians that are qualified to answer religion based questions? I would imagine that anyone that follows the faith as thouroughly and without question as the people here claim to, that they could answer said questions just as well. Whose authority do you want us to turn to?

If you have a medical question where do you go?

If you have a legal question where do you go?

I am a Catholic, I may ask a fellow believer with more knowledge, but if I'm not satisfied with the answer I will go to a Priest. Often a prayer can provide the answer.

Which ever way you choose, or who ever you ask, to ask with a closed mind and heart, seeking only an answer that will satisfy your justification to continue on your current path will not help.

I posteed this topic because someone was talking about christians as a group and ridiculing them for the way they act, while not understanding that people are all unique. that is like me saying all muslims are terrorist or all asians are smart. I don't get why people lump all of us "Christians" in one category.

For shame Fanta, I would think that you would know by now that I never ask a question with a closed mind or heart. I ask to learn and trust me I do not seek answers to justify my current path. I already have all the answers as to why I am on my current path. Doesn't mean I am close minded to others. I enjoy learning why other people think the way they do and why they believe what they believe. There is so much more to learn about people that just what they believe.

Also I don't believe that you can make the same argument that priests are as specialized in Christianity and doctors are to medicine or lawyers are to law. I have met many priests that are not as true in their faith as you would think they should be and I have met many people who are Christians that put the knowledge of some priests to shame. I don't believe that only priests can answer these questions, nor should the questions be posed to just priests. Although just so you know I do work with someone who is a priest on the other side. He works this job during the week and preaches on Sundays and I do ask him questions all the time. Then I like to see how many people on this forum give similar answers. Things are not always just Black and White my friend.

Have you seen the requirements to be a Priest?
Don't even think about that you must be male and single. If you go to seminary school right out of HS you must study for 8 yrs. That, on an educational level alone, is very similar to med school!
Not to mention that generally they have been Christians since a very young age. How many Dr's were practicing medicine through their childhood?

hahahaha!!

"christian's lump themselves in to the catagory of christian's - we have no power to do that - if you read my above statement's you'll understand that if your going to espouse your christian belief's on an open forum - then you had better be sure that what your stating is accurate as to what your bible states. if not then you bring debate/arguemwent to this arena - same hold's true if we make a mistatement of something we may quote. It's a 2 edge sword so to say - meaning that which you choose to use to cut with ( the word of god accoerding to the bible) can come back to cut you - if your mis interpreting what the bible states - or not understanding it correctly - BASHING?? = no, just straightning out, correcting mistakes, keeping everything on track as to quotes made and languaged used. guiding the mis-guided, re-instructing the confused sheep, opening the eyes of the beguiled follower's, giving them a chance to re-think what they have fallen into, followed because of devious men that rule the christian theology, teacher's of myth's rather than truth's,i personally feel for the follower's, but not!! for the religious leader's - even Jesus railed against them in his time - sadly a new crop keeps arising and continueing the deciet's of the former.

Hey, Do you read everything you read in a textbook? Remember Christ's teachings are a guide on how you should live your life. I personally believe in a lot of the christian teachings, with Christ and God and all but for everyone to lump all of us together as closedminded individuals is wrong.

no closemindedness intended - but be serious - if i claim to be an atheist (which im not) but claim to be - then i have "lumped myself in with atheist ways of thinking and believing - and if your knowledgeable of athest thinking's and believing - then you will think me to be just what you know of that belief or non belief system, not as an individual until maybe you get to know me on a personal scale - so if you state your a christian - that is where you will be lumped in like manner - it's not a put down - just a fact!!

What do I call myself then, a non christian that does really believe in christ and reads the bible but doesn't fit into the stereotypical label of a Christian?

How about we answer this then. What is it you see that seperates you from the stereotypical Christian? Why does it bother you so much to be lumped in with other Christians? Is it because you don't fully agree with their view points? You just like being able to feel like your own person? I think if we can answer why you don't want to be catagorized with all the other christians we would be better able to understand where your concern is coming from.

I AM A CHRISTIAN.

I have no problem with others beliefs, I just find the Christian bashing a little harsh. I tend to not speak up when someone groups ALL of us Christians together in the same group of people. Some of which I will note show a certain lack of tolerance, but please remember, not ALL of us are like that and it shows your ignorance to place a negative thought on a group of people, many of which you dont know and have failed to try to know. Some Christians or Some people might think like that but it is not ALL of us.

Thank you.

This (my original post that started this off) is my issue. I can not help being a "Christian" because I do follow most of the Christian belief system. People talk about christians as a group of people that lack thinking (just because a Christian opinion is different then theirs), tolerance, and individuality. Though I know that the Lord is our "shepherd" stuff does make it seem as a group we are followers. Personally I follow three main rules. "Do onto others as you would have them do onto you" Tolerance and kindness are key and that god is always with me (except during sex or showering). For me to be lumped in with a group that is being cateragorized as intolerant and followers is something I strongly object to. And all I was asking is for the "more tolerant non-Christian" to practice what she was preaching by realizing that I, like many christians, practice tolerance and kindness to those around us and do not wish to engage in an arguement that is based on an opinion versus an opinion where there will be very few winners if any.