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Topic: Just pissing me off................
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Sat 05/31/08 10:28 PM
did i do good???bigsmile



Yep that sounds about right. I've heard all of that before too. I guess you are qualified to preach it now huh?

I hope you don't expect me to buy any of that, I know you don't.

BUT here is the rational explanation:

They got to the promised land and it was occupied, much like the current day holy land. Occupied!!

The solution is simple.... Genocide.

And so begins the war in the middle east~ ~ which is still going on today ~~ in an effort to secure that whole area ~~ especially the temple mount.

Why the temple mount? That's the big secret.

The reason they want that area is because that is where the aliens (the god of Abraham was an alien) landed long ago ~~ even before Adam and Eve were brought to the earth to breed the master race in an effort to upgrade the primitive earth humans.

I think the proof lies deep under the temple mount. It is all about ancient advanced civilizations and the proof is there. That is why Israel wants control of the area and why they are using the the United States to help them secure this entire area.

They believe this is where their god will return and rule the earth from.

JB





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Sat 05/31/08 10:33 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 05/31/08 10:34 PM
Morningsong approves: happy

Your replies to Jeannie's questions were all Excellent, Triboflowerforyou

God Bless You ,Tribo.....:heart:



And of course you have won the approval of one of the loyal flock. So I guess you did good Tribo. drinker

(That anyone would believe that explanation totally blows my mind. huh smokin )

Let us pray for them. :wink:





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Sat 05/31/08 10:49 PM
hmmmm????

now that im' just plain ole tribo again - i have to be honest - i don't know who to pray to - so i cant!! and honestly i dont want to - smiles

i will just crawl back into my primordial hole and stay there till an angel of light contact's me and reveals the "divine truth"!!

Tribohammud??
tribocadabra?
tribhudda?
tribofuscious?
tribobean?
tribosong?
tri-bow-ling some time?

I'm so confused????

til i got on here everything was so easy to undrstand - woe is me sad sad sad sad


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Sun 06/01/08 12:03 AM
Wow!happy

MirrorMirror's photo
Sun 06/01/08 01:54 AM
Heaven is down. Hell is up.
This is proven by the fact
that the planets and stars
are orderly in their
movements,
while down on earth
we come close to the
primal chaos.
There are four other
proofs,
but I forget them.

--Josh the Dill
King Kong Kabal


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Sun 06/01/08 04:03 AM

I AM A CHRISTIAN.

I have no problem with others beliefs, I just find the Christian bashing a little harsh. I tend to not speak up when someone groups ALL of us Christians together in the same group of people. Some of which I will note show a certain lack of tolerance, but please remember, not ALL of us are like that and it shows your ignorance to place a negative thought on a group of people, many of which you dont know and have failed to try to know. Some Christians or Some people might think like that but it is not ALL of us.

Thank you.


smokin NONSENSE AS SALVATIONsmokin

:smile: The human race will begin solving it's problems on the day that it ceases taking itself so seriously.:smile:


happy If you can master nonsense as well as you have already learned to master sense, then each will expose the other for what it is: absurdity. happy From that moment of illumination, a man begins to be free regardless of his surroundings.happy He becomes free to play order games and change them at will.happy He becomes free to play disorder games just for the hell of it.happy He becomes free to play neither or both.happy And as the master of his own games, he plays without fear, and therefore without frustration, and therefore with good will in his soul and love in his being.happy




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Sun 06/01/08 04:45 AM



well there goes this thread - :smile:

what other unanswered questions did you have any??


Does the God of Abraham (and Adam) practice and believe in culling the races through the use of genocide?

If not, then what was the battle of Jericho all about?

My question to Christians has always been, how do you explain the mass slaughter of the people who lived in the promised land and do you condone the murder of men women and children there?

The usual answer I get is "that was a long time ago, the people were worshiping the wrong god, sacrificing babies etc. In other words, they needed killin' cause they were "evil." bigsmile

After all this ~genocide~ it is still going on in this world. People are still being bombed and killed to drive them from that land so Israel can expand their borders.

JB


From a "god of adam abraham point of view i would have to say this - God is the creator and as such he know's "all thing's" If he felt it was necessary to destroy those in the land of promise to allow his "chosen people" ( remember he states he chose them because they were the worst example of people on the earth) to dwell there in the land of milk and honey - it was to show his might as the all powerful god he is. Do you not think that which is the creator should have the right to do as he wishes with his creation?? he gives life and he takes life as he see's fit - it is not for us to judge god but to praise him and worship him!!! If you created something that turned against your own righteous way's - would you not have the right to destroy them if you wished? God is a vengeful god to those who do what is against his will and a loving god to those who do - just as parent's scold their children god does so with us - only we have no right to take life because we cannot produce/create it - but god does retain that right!! To say or believe god is wrong in taking life as he see's fit is to say he cannot do all that he pleases which makes him less than "GOD" !!! If your going to believe in the god of the bible hen you must understand that all!! god does is in accordence with all he is - you cannot seperate out one aspect of god and make him smaller than he is - you must look at al the facet's that make up his character - he is loving,vain,vengeful,all powerful,all knowing,all present at all times and in all things.He cannot just go around killing people for no reason, nor can he love sin and allow it in his presence, he is all pure without blemish or sin. he always acts in accord with all he is and never sins because nothing he does is without balance with the rest of what he does or who he is!!

what goes on today is the same as then - it is not god doing the killing it is man and his inherent selfishness, brought about by free will however limited you may deem this to be. If man never sinned there would be no killing by god or anyone - sin - selfcenteredness is the blame here not a blood thirsty god or a non caring god, god would rather that none perish, that all would believe and follow his ways, don't blame god - blame man - that includes you as well - mankind!!

how was that bigsmile

:wink: drinker

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Sun 06/01/08 04:52 AM
Edited by star_tin_gover on Sun 06/01/08 04:55 AM

did i do good???bigsmile



Yep that sounds about right. I've heard all of that before too. I guess you are qualified to preach it now huh?

I hope you don't expect me to buy any of that, I know you don't.

BUT here is the rational explanation:

They got to the promised land and it was occupied, much like the current day holy land. Occupied!!

The solution is simple.... Genocide.

And so begins the war in the middle east~ ~ which is still going on today ~~ in an effort to secure that whole area ~~ especially the temple mount.

Why the temple mount? That's the big secret.

The reason they want that area is because that is where the aliens (the god of Abraham was an alien) landed long ago ~~ even before Adam and Eve were brought to the earth to breed the master race in an effort to upgrade the primitive earth humans.

I think the proof lies deep under the temple mount. It is all about ancient advanced civilizations and the proof is there. That is why Israel wants control of the area and why they are using the the United States to help them secure this entire area.

They believe this is where their god will return and rule the earth from.

JB






Actually most believe that there is dirt under the Temple Mount. Some believe that there is a $50 Wal-Mart gift card buried there from a future employee who time-traveled to the past to put it there next to a half eaten Snicker's bar. flowerforyou
Me? I vote for the dirt crowd. After all, a Snicker's bar? huh laugh blushing

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Sun 06/01/08 06:41 AM
" It's my tears "
I awoke this morning,only to find so many questions in my mind,
I couldn't help but wonder,I couldn't help but ask,
Lord why the war,why the suffering, why the pain,
Why have you forgotten us,
Can you see us through the rain,
I heard him answer clear as day,
I gave you perfection,you threw it away
I gave you my prophets,you sent them away,
I sent you my son,you put him in a grave,
I gave you a brain to use your imagination,
You made weapons and caused destruction,
I gave you health, you chose wealth,
You chose your path,you chose your way don't blame me if its gone astray,
I haven't forgotten you,I help you everyday,
I'm the forgotten,
It's my tears that is the rain.

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Mon 06/02/08 06:34 AM


I AM A CHRISTIAN.

I have no problem with others beliefs, I just find the Christian bashing a little harsh. I tend to not speak up when someone groups ALL of us Christians together in the same group of people. Some of which I will note show a certain lack of tolerance, but please remember, not ALL of us are like that and it shows your ignorance to place a negative thought on a group of people, many of which you dont know and have failed to try to know. Some Christians or Some people might think like that but it is not ALL of us.

Thank you.


smokin NONSENSE AS SALVATIONsmokin

:smile: The human race will begin solving it's problems on the day that it ceases taking itself so seriously.:smile:


happy If you can master nonsense as well as you have already learned to master sense, then each will expose the other for what it is: absurdity. happy From that moment of illumination, a man begins to be free regardless of his surroundings.happy He becomes free to play order games and change them at will.happy He becomes free to play disorder games just for the hell of it.happy He becomes free to play neither or both.happy And as the master of his own games, he plays without fear, and therefore without frustration, and therefore with good will in his soul and love in his being.happy









I don't understand what you are taking about

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Mon 06/02/08 06:46 AM
There is less tolerance for christianity than many other religions

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Mon 06/02/08 06:51 AM

There is less tolerance for christianity than many other religions


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Not.


Lance1205's photo
Mon 06/02/08 07:42 AM


There is less tolerance for christianity than many other religions


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Not.

Oh so if I go to a forum topic and say I'm a Christian I'm not going to get questioned and and my faith tested and possibly ridiculed for it. The world does not accept christianity. A muslim earlier in this room said he was a muslim and someone said, "I know a muslim" And another gave him a heart and flowers. I'm not saying thats wrong my any stretch of the imaginiation I think tolerance for people is a good thing. But I have witnessed first hand how people deal with Chrisians verses other religions. If someone said "I'm a budist." yes people MIGHT question him/her out of curiosity but his faith wouldn't be brought into scrutiny for it, and later if he got mad at someone and said something wrong he wouldn't be called a hypocrit and people say "ha some budist you are." But we as christians get that all of the time.



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Mon 06/02/08 08:01 AM



There is less tolerance for christianity than many other religions


laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

Not.

Oh so if I go to a forum topic and say I'm a Christian I'm not going to get questioned and and my faith tested and possibly ridiculed for it. The world does not accept christianity. A muslim earlier in this room said he was a muslim and someone said, "I know a muslim" And another gave him a heart and flowers. I'm not saying thats wrong my any stretch of the imaginiation I think tolerance for people is a good thing. But I have witnessed first hand how people deal with Chrisians verses other religions. If someone said "I'm a budist." yes people MIGHT question him/her out of curiosity but his faith wouldn't be brought into scrutiny for it, and later if he got mad at someone and said something wrong he wouldn't be called a hypocrit and people say "ha some budist you are." But we as christians get that all of the time.





I agree with what your saying. I am married but getting a divorce and get ridiculed for moving on. People say I am an "adulterous" woman because I am moving on. Then if I say I am prodeath penalty I get yelled at for the whole "Let the person who has not sin cast the first stone bs. Then there are a lot of Christians that will even judge other Christians for not meeting their standards of what a Christian should be. Other people also say that with all the crap I have been through where was Christ and the Lord. It's like they scrutinize everything you do because your faith falls under the heading "Christianity"

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Mon 06/02/08 08:24 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 06/02/08 08:27 AM


I agree with what your saying. I am married but getting a divorce and get ridiculed for moving on. People say I am an "adulterous" woman because I am moving on. Then if I say I am prodeath penalty I get yelled at for the whole "Let the person who has not sin cast the first stone bs. Then there are a lot of Christians that will even judge other Christians for not meeting their standards of what a Christian should be. Other people also say that with all the crap I have been through where was Christ and the Lord. It's like they scrutinize everything you do because your faith falls under the heading "Christianity"


Let me be the first to congratulate you on your divorce! I am all for moving on and I would NEVER call you an "adulterous" woman.

The above is a very good example why non-Christians are hard on Christianity. They judge other people and always seem to try to tell people how they should live their life and impose their standard upon others.

On the other hand I have never ever felt this kind of thing from a Buddist, Pagan, Wiccan, Muslim, etc. Only from Christians.

So yes, you will find that when you push, people will push back.
It is the law of cause and effect. If you are going to join the group that call themselves Christians you will feel this resistance.

Lance1205 said:

Oh so if I go to a forum topic and say I'm a Christian I'm not going to get questioned and and my faith tested and possibly ridiculed for it. The world does not accept christianity.


No, you will be questioned and your faith will be tested and possibly ridiculed for it.

SO???

Instead of whining about it, you might ask yourself why is this happening.

The world does not accept Christianity? What world are you living in? That's bull crap. Try seeing how successful an atheist or Buddist or Muslim would be if they wanted to run for president of the United States, or even for any public office and see how accepting people are of that. People would sooner elect a black man or a woman for president than they would a person who did not proclaim to be a "Christian."

I think it is high time for an pantheist president. bigsmile drinker

JB

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Mon 06/02/08 08:31 AM




There is less tolerance for christianity than many other religions


laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

Not.

Oh so if I go to a forum topic and say I'm a Christian I'm not going to get questioned and and my faith tested and possibly ridiculed for it. The world does not accept christianity. A muslim earlier in this room said he was a muslim and someone said, "I know a muslim" And another gave him a heart and flowers. I'm not saying thats wrong my any stretch of the imaginiation I think tolerance for people is a good thing. But I have witnessed first hand how people deal with Chrisians verses other religions. If someone said "I'm a budist." yes people MIGHT question him/her out of curiosity but his faith wouldn't be brought into scrutiny for it, and later if he got mad at someone and said something wrong he wouldn't be called a hypocrit and people say "ha some budist you are." But we as christians get that all of the time.





I agree with what your saying. I am married but getting a divorce and get ridiculed for moving on. People say I am an "adulterous" woman because I am moving on. Then if I say I am prodeath penalty I get yelled at for the whole "Let the person who has not sin cast the first stone bs. Then there are a lot of Christians that will even judge other Christians for not meeting their standards of what a Christian should be. Other people also say that with all the crap I have been through where was Christ and the Lord. It's like they scrutinize everything you do because your faith falls under the heading "Christianity"






Ah forget about all that, just live biblically how Christ taught us to live and let your conscience be pure and no one will have anything to say against you. Be careful not to be prideful. Many of you christian brothers and sisters may be bringing things to you in the wrong way but they may still be biblical. Search your heart and flee from pride.

John 15:18-20
"If the world hates you, you know that it has hated Me before it hated you.
If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, because of this the world hates you.
Remember the word that I said to you, 'A slave is not greater than his master ' If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they kept My word, they will keep yours also."
and
1 John 3:13
Do not be surprised, brethren, if the world hates you.

But we as christians are also required not to give an opportunity for people to ridicule us according to sin. If we have done wrong it requires repentance, and turning from our sins. Christ did not die as a liscense for us to go on sinning but "...the Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil." If we go on sinning as christians we make christs death in vain. And grieve the holy spirt.

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Mon 06/02/08 08:32 AM



I agree with what your saying. I am married but getting a divorce and get ridiculed for moving on. People say I am an "adulterous" woman because I am moving on. Then if I say I am prodeath penalty I get yelled at for the whole "Let the person who has not sin cast the first stone bs. Then there are a lot of Christians that will even judge other Christians for not meeting their standards of what a Christian should be. Other people also say that with all the crap I have been through where was Christ and the Lord. It's like they scrutinize everything you do because your faith falls under the heading "Christianity"


Let me be the first to congratulate you on your divorce! I am all for moving on and I would NEVER call you an "adulterous" woman.

The above is a very good example why non-Christians are hard on Christianity. They judge other people and always seem to try to tell people how they should live their life and impose their standard upon others.

On the other hand I have never ever felt this kind of thing from a Buddist, Pagan, Wiccan, Muslim, etc. Only from Christians.

So yes, you will find that when you push, people will push back.
It is the law of cause and effect. If you are going to join the group that call themselves Christians you will feel this resistance.

Lance1205 said:

Oh so if I go to a forum topic and say I'm a Christian I'm not going to get questioned and and my faith tested and possibly ridiculed for it. The world does not accept christianity.


No, you will be questioned and your faith will be tested and possibly ridiculed for it.

SO???

Instead of whining about it, you might ask yourself why is this happening.

The world does not accept Christianity? What world are you living in? That's bull crap. Try seeing how successful an atheist or Buddist or Muslim would be if they wanted to run for president of the United States, or even for any public office and see how accepting people are of that. People would sooner elect a black man or a woman for president than they would a person who did not proclaim to be a "Christian."

I think it is high time for an pantheist president. bigsmile drinker

JB



Okay JB I get what you are saying. But my faith does rest with the Christian God and Jesus Christ so, how can I not be classified as a Christian?

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Mon 06/02/08 08:32 AM



I agree with what your saying. I am married but getting a divorce and get ridiculed for moving on. People say I am an "adulterous" woman because I am moving on. Then if I say I am prodeath penalty I get yelled at for the whole "Let the person who has not sin cast the first stone bs. Then there are a lot of Christians that will even judge other Christians for not meeting their standards of what a Christian should be. Other people also say that with all the crap I have been through where was Christ and the Lord. It's like they scrutinize everything you do because your faith falls under the heading "Christianity"


Let me be the first to congratulate you on your divorce! I am all for moving on and I would NEVER call you an "adulterous" woman.

The above is a very good example why non-Christians are hard on Christianity. They judge other people and always seem to try to tell people how they should live their life and impose their standard upon others.

On the other hand I have never ever felt this kind of thing from a Buddist, Pagan, Wiccan, Muslim, etc. Only from Christians.

So yes, you will find that when you push, people will push back.
It is the law of cause and effect. If you are going to join the group that call themselves Christians you will feel this resistance.

Lance1205 said:

Oh so if I go to a forum topic and say I'm a Christian I'm not going to get questioned and and my faith tested and possibly ridiculed for it. The world does not accept christianity.


No, you will be questioned and your faith will be tested and possibly ridiculed for it.

SO???

Instead of whining about it, you might ask yourself why is this happening.

The world does not accept Christianity? What world are you living in? That's bull crap. Try seeing how successful an atheist or Buddist or Muslim would be if they wanted to run for president of the United States, or even for any public office and see how accepting people are of that. People would sooner elect a black man or a woman for president than they would a person who did not proclaim to be a "Christian."

I think it is high time for an pantheist president. bigsmile drinker

JB



Okay JB I get what you are saying. But my faith does rest with the Christian God and Jesus Christ so, how can I not be classified as a Christian?

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Mon 06/02/08 08:36 AM



I agree with what your saying. I am married but getting a divorce and get ridiculed for moving on. People say I am an "adulterous" woman because I am moving on. Then if I say I am prodeath penalty I get yelled at for the whole "Let the person who has not sin cast the first stone bs. Then there are a lot of Christians that will even judge other Christians for not meeting their standards of what a Christian should be. Other people also say that with all the crap I have been through where was Christ and the Lord. It's like they scrutinize everything you do because your faith falls under the heading "Christianity"


Let me be the first to congratulate you on your divorce! I am all for moving on and I would NEVER call you an "adulterous" woman.

The above is a very good example why non-Christians are hard on Christianity. They judge other people and always seem to try to tell people how they should live their life and impose their standard upon others.

On the other hand I have never ever felt this kind of thing from a Buddist, Pagan, Wiccan, Muslim, etc. Only from Christians.

So yes, you will find that when you push, people will push back.
It is the law of cause and effect. If you are going to join the group that call themselves Christians you will feel this resistance.

Lance1205 said:

Oh so if I go to a forum topic and say I'm a Christian I'm not going to get questioned and and my faith tested and possibly ridiculed for it. The world does not accept christianity.


No, you will be questioned and your faith will be tested and possibly ridiculed for it.

SO???

Instead of whining about it, you might ask yourself why is this happening.

The world does not accept Christianity? What world are you living in? That's bull crap. Try seeing how successful an atheist or Buddist or Muslim would be if they wanted to run for president of the United States, or even for any public office and see how accepting people are of that. People would sooner elect a black man or a woman for president than they would a person who did not proclaim to be a "Christian."

I think it is high time for an pantheist president. bigsmile drinker

JB





Right I possibly should have said the world does not accept CHRIST. Christianity is a religion and up for interpretation but Christ is not. So my appologies for my wording there.

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Mon 06/02/08 08:40 AM
Okay JB I get what you are saying. But my faith does rest with the Christian God and Jesus Christ so, how can I not be classified as a Christian?


You cannot be anything but Christian if that is the case. Take it from me, it would be much easier for me to live in my little bible belt town if I were to tell people that I was a Christian and attend one of the churches here.

But I cannot do that because I cannot be a hypocrite nor could I find joy in friends who follow a completely different spiritual path.

Christians are going to find resistance but they are going to also find a lot of support from each other. They do support each other!

You just have to be who you are and take it for what it is, resistance and all.

Some just like to whine about people who do not accept them and their beliefs as if they were supreme truth. That is just not going to ever happen.

JB

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