it seems to me that he is just looking for a reason for it to be ok for him to be gay

hi Rapunzel.. I have missed you all as well .. and TY for such a warm welcome

Muah muah Muah


I love what you have done in the service


& for what you stand for

Belushi, cheers - I think this is the longest I've seen this topic run in three forums.

scrambled..

From Romans 1:18-32, this passage fits perfectly with this thread!

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. 19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.

24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, 25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.

26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. 29 They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32 Though they know God's decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.

An absolute fit!!

Belushi, cheers - I think this is the longest I've seen this topic run in three forums.

Im currently researching another topic that the God Squad might like to partake in, but I'll save that for another time ...


oh, i can hardly wait ....


need to counter all the incoming hatred and vitriol for that one too first

Hi Redykeulous & Belushi, & everyone else...



I hope your day is going well...

Nice one ... doesnt say anything about Jesus being gay, though does it?

and in retort (because anyone can make the bible passages fit anything they want)

Mark 7:14-16 shows that Jesus approves of homosexual acts.

The critical phrase reads: "There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him..."

Scholars suggest that Jesus gave great emphasis to this teaching, directing it to everyone.
They suggest that the sentence refers to dietary laws and also extends to "blood transfusions, medication, organ transplants, and artificial insemination and could be to homosexual acts" as well.

Mark 7; 18-23.

And he says unto them, " Are you so without understanding also?
Do you not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without enters into the man, it cannot defile him ;
Because it enters not INTO HIS HEART, but into the belly, and goes out into the draught, purging all meats?
And he said, That which comes out of the man, that defiles the man.
Form within, OUT OF THE HEART OF MEN, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications (that would include homosexuality), murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit (HMMMMM), lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness( ) :


All these evil things come from within,

and defile the man.

oops

<<< The Balance >>>

by the Moody Blues...



After he had journeyed,
And his feet were sore,
And he was tired,
He came upon an orange grove
And he rested
And he lay in the cool,
And while he rested, he took
to himself an orange and
tasted it,
And it was good.
And he felt the earth to his spine,
And he asked, and he saw
the tree above him, and
the stars,
And the veins in the leaf,
And the light, and the balance.
And he saw magnificent perfection,
Whereon he thought of himself in balance,
And he knew he was.

Just open your eyes,
And realize, the way it's always been.
Just open your mind
And you will find
The way it's always been.
Just open your heart
And that's a start.

And he thought of those he angered,
For he was not a violent man,
And he thought of those he hurt
For he was not a cruel man
And he thought of those he frightened
For he was not an evil man,

And he understood.
He understood himself.

Upon this he saw that when
he was of anger or knew hurt
or felt fear,
It was because he was not understanding,


And he learned, compassion.

And with his eye of compassion.
He saw his enemies like unto himself,

And he learned love.
Then, he was answered.

Just open your eyes,
And realize, the way it's always been.
Just open your mind
And you will find
The way it's always been.
Just open your heart
And that's a start.

where is the hatred coming from ???? not from me......

I never said it was coming from you.

and just because i dont see your post doesnt mean I am ignoring you.

There are some two-faced god-squad members on this site who espouse peace and love and yet are filled with hate and inflexibilty
But hey ho, you get used to it when you are on the dark side

Fornication only applies because they cannot marry, if they marry their sex is not fornication so then it would not fit this definition.

Again I will say, does the message of Jesus change because he could have had sex with men or women or both?