I leave you your world spider though I am often here reading and learning!

Yes, it does change his message. First of all, it would mean that Jesus broke one of the Old Testament laws. For Jesus to be a valid sacrifice, he had to be without spot (sin). Second, Jesus is to be our template for behavior. If Jesus molested this boy, then pediphilia would be someone Christians should practice.

do you have a faith ?

Yes, it does change his message. First of all, it would mean that Jesus broke one of the Old Testament laws. For Jesus to be a valid sacrifice, he had to be without spot (sin). Second, Jesus is to be our template for behavior. If Jesus molested this boy, then pediphilia would be someone Christians should practice.

Yahshua could not possibly of been and still be the promiced messiah.

Remember he took on the sins of the world and the only way that he could do that is to be sinless himself. he would of broke the law against man lieing with man which by the way is in the same contect as a man lying with an animal.

2 it would of been adultry. which would of led to many sins he committed.

Why do you all want to engage yourself in such foolishness.

10 for fornicators, for sodomites, for kidnappers, for liars, for perjurers, and if there is any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine, 11 according to the glorious gospel of the blessed Yahweh which was committed to my trust.
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One version of St. Mark's gospel alludes to Jesus having a homosexual relationship with a youth he raised from the dead.

According to the US Biblical scholar, Morton Smith, of Columbia University, a fragment of manuscript he found at the Mar Saba monastery near Jerusalem in 1958, showed that the full text of St. Mark chapter 10 (between verses 34 and 35 in the standard version of the Bible) includes the passage:

"And the youth, looking upon him (Jesus), loved him and beseeched that he might remain with him. And going out of the tomb, they went into the house of the youth, for he was rich. And after six days, Jesus instructed him and, at evening, the youth came to him wearing a linen cloth over his naked body. And he remained with him that night, for Jesus taught him the mystery of the Kingdom of God".

The veracity of this manuscript is hotly contested by other Biblical scholars. This comes as no surprise.

The revelation of a gay Jesus would undermine some of the most fundamental tenets of orthodox Christianity, including its rampant homophobia.

But even if the text is genuine, does this ambiguous, elliptical passage offer evidence of Jesus's homosexuality? It is hard to say.

The precise nature of the relationship between Christ and the youth is not spelled out. Sexual relations are suggested but not explicitly stated.

The standard, accepted Biblical narrative gives us no information at all about Jesus's sexuality.

This absence of firm information does not, of course, mean that we can take it for granted that Christ was heterosexual. Far from it!

The lack of information about his erotic inclinations begs more questions than it answers.

The truth is that we simply don't know whether Jesus was straight, gay, bisexual or celibate. There is certainly no evidence for the Church's unspoken presumption that he was either heterosexual or devoid of carnal desires.

Since nothing in the Bible points to Christ having erotic feelings for women, or relationships with the female sex, the possibility of him being gay cannot be discounted.

In the absence of any evidence - let alone proof - that Jesus was heterosexual, the theological basis of Church homophobia is all the more shaky and indefensible.

How can established religion dare denounce homosexuality when the founder of its faith was himself a man of mysterious, unknown sexuality who could, for all we know, have been homosexual?

The Bible tells us that Jesus was born a man and therefore presumably had male sexual feelings.

It would have been more or less impossible, biologically, for him not to have an element of erotic arousal - even if only having the normal male response of waking "playing tents"

Ummmmmm....I didn't read that in there at all. Sorry. That's the problem. Interpretation. We can all read something...think it one way...make it work. Interpretation.

Kat

All I know is that he was a man . The rest is speculation based on some myths here and there . Of course a man has a penis ,an anus and the rest of the organs . Was he God ?. No . Was he a son of God ?. No . Let the myths flourish and the guessing continue . .

Jesus wasn't God and wasn't the son of God? How do you know? Is that a statement of absolute fact or faith?

... and how do you like your eggs in the morning?

From Romans 1:18-32, this passage fits perfectly with this thread!

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. 19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.

24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, 25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.

26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. 29 They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32 Though they know God's decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.

An absolute fit!!