Topic: Friends with Benefits
DQ66's photo
Wed 05/21/08 07:16 PM

There are two ways you can handle this situation.

1. Pop smoke, break contact. Peace out. C-ya later. Get the picture?

2. Don't break contact.

People are funny. 50 bucks says if you start getting remotely serious with someone else he's gonna start persuing you. If you sit there and say, no more sex, he will start to resent you. If you start seeing someone else and back off the sex as a result of you seeing someone then he will more than likely understand and come to the realization that he was taking you for granted.

The backasswards thing about that is when you start getting remotely serious with someone else you are going to be less interested in this guy. Funny how this works huh? This will more than likely lead to you persuing that new person which, again brings us back to choice number 1.

So i guess you should move on either way. Be careful about giving him ground rules and trying to spend every waking minute with him when there is no physical contact permitted. This could make things a bit ugly. If you want things to go smoothly, then simply move on. Find other things to do. Spend more time with other people. Then he will be a victim of his own cicumstance instead of resenting you for new rules you set that he has to follow. Do you see where i am going with this? Move on, find someone new, spend more time doing other things. Lose your emotional dependency on him because you are seriously just wasting your time.

The "spark" he speaks of doesn't just occur after you reach a "comfort" stage in a relationship. This is why they say it's bad to move too fast physically. If the sex exceeds the emotional (romantic) part of the relationship you kinda lose that spark and jump into a comfort zone. The same goes for the other way as well. If the romance exceeds the physical part of the relationship for too long you still lose. They are both kinda dependent on one another. Another thing to take into consideration is this "spark" is just infactuation. It's most powerful at the beginning of a relationship.

On a side note:

Also, keep in mind that people are animals. Here is something kinda nifty to think about. Animalistically, women are the choosers and men are the pursuers. Men sometimes need to feel like they are men. They need to feel like they are pursuing you, and beating the odds. Sometimes, when anyone throws themselves at someone, it kinda makes them second guess things. This information is extremely circumstancial though. Give them something to chase, just a little, and it may feed into infactuation. But there is a thin line you must walk to do this. Go overboard and you are just playing head games and making your partner, or potential partner, stress out. Kinda like with women. If you make your female partner think she is the only woman on earth things may get boring and dull. If you let her know, yes, there are other women, yes many of them are attractive, but you are better, more attractive to me, and next to you these other women just cant quite compare, you will make her feel like a million bucks.

Just a guess, after all, what do i know?



Wanna be my therapist? love love love love

MissyAnn's photo
Thu 05/22/08 08:06 AM

You go girl:wink: smokin !!!

One step is better than none. And the fact your here, say you KNOW he's not into you:cry:

Can I ask a question?

How does that make you feel beautiful, wanted and sexy?

flowerforyou


he says so...and not just during sex...we spend alot of time together outside of the bedroom...When I am with him, I feel beautiful, whether we are at the grocery store, bathing the dogs, or shopping at Walmart. He holds my hand, puts his hand in the small of my back, little gestures like that. Even when were were just friends prior to our "committed relationship." Even my ex-husband of 14 years did not make me feel like that.
OMG, I am so confused!

MissyAnn's photo
Thu 05/22/08 08:07 AM


There are two ways you can handle this situation.

1. Pop smoke, break contact. Peace out. C-ya later. Get the picture?

2. Don't break contact.

People are funny. 50 bucks says if you start getting remotely serious with someone else he's gonna start persuing you. If you sit there and say, no more sex, he will start to resent you. If you start seeing someone else and back off the sex as a result of you seeing someone then he will more than likely understand and come to the realization that he was taking you for granted.

The backasswards thing about that is when you start getting remotely serious with someone else you are going to be less interested in this guy. Funny how this works huh? This will more than likely lead to you persuing that new person which, again brings us back to choice number 1.

So i guess you should move on either way. Be careful about giving him ground rules and trying to spend every waking minute with him when there is no physical contact permitted. This could make things a bit ugly. If you want things to go smoothly, then simply move on. Find other things to do. Spend more time with other people. Then he will be a victim of his own cicumstance instead of resenting you for new rules you set that he has to follow. Do you see where i am going with this? Move on, find someone new, spend more time doing other things. Lose your emotional dependency on him because you are seriously just wasting your time.

The "spark" he speaks of doesn't just occur after you reach a "comfort" stage in a relationship. This is why they say it's bad to move too fast physically. If the sex exceeds the emotional (romantic) part of the relationship you kinda lose that spark and jump into a comfort zone. The same goes for the other way as well. If the romance exceeds the physical part of the relationship for too long you still lose. They are both kinda dependent on one another. Another thing to take into consideration is this "spark" is just infactuation. It's most powerful at the beginning of a relationship.

On a side note:

Also, keep in mind that people are animals. Here is something kinda nifty to think about. Animalistically, women are the choosers and men are the pursuers. Men sometimes need to feel like they are men. They need to feel like they are pursuing you, and beating the odds. Sometimes, when anyone throws themselves at someone, it kinda makes them second guess things. This information is extremely circumstancial though. Give them something to chase, just a little, and it may feed into infactuation. But there is a thin line you must walk to do this. Go overboard and you are just playing head games and making your partner, or potential partner, stress out. Kinda like with women. If you make your female partner think she is the only woman on earth things may get boring and dull. If you let her know, yes, there are other women, yes many of them are attractive, but you are better, more attractive to me, and next to you these other women just cant quite compare, you will make her feel like a million bucks.

Just a guess, after all, what do i know?



Wanna be my therapist? love love love love


Isn't this amazing!! I even printed it and gave it to Lance (my friend with benefits guy) He even thought it was profound!

MissyAnn's photo
Thu 05/22/08 08:11 AM
Oh, so he and I had a long talk on the phone last night. He made a comment about he and I re-thinking all of this and maybe giving it another try...I did not go over to his house, and I just listened...though I am crazy about this man, now I worry that because he has not found a "better offer" he wants me again.

As much as I want this, I know I need to be strong! Because of you guys and your great advice, I have managed not to go over for 2 nights...he asked me to dinner tonight, though, but I have not answered him yet~!

franshade's photo
Thu 05/22/08 08:12 AM
go to dinner but dont be the dessert flowerforyou

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Thu 05/22/08 08:13 AM

Oh, so he and I had a long talk on the phone last night. He made a comment about he and I re-thinking all of this and maybe giving it another try...I did not go over to his house, and I just listened...though I am crazy about this man, now I worry that because he has not found a "better offer" he wants me again.

As much as I want this, I know I need to be strong! Because of you guys and your great advice, I have managed not to go over for 2 nights...he asked me to dinner tonight, though, but I have not answered him yet~!


Don't go, if he really wants to be with you he should work for it. Don't be easy or just the fallback anymore.

MissyAnn's photo
Thu 05/22/08 08:13 AM

go to dinner but dont be the dessert flowerforyou



That made me smile...and I needed that this morning! flowerforyou

MissyAnn's photo
Thu 05/22/08 08:14 AM


Oh, so he and I had a long talk on the phone last night. He made a comment about he and I re-thinking all of this and maybe giving it another try...I did not go over to his house, and I just listened...though I am crazy about this man, now I worry that because he has not found a "better offer" he wants me again.

As much as I want this, I know I need to be strong! Because of you guys and your great advice, I have managed not to go over for 2 nights...he asked me to dinner tonight, though, but I have not answered him yet~!


Don't go, if he really wants to be with you he should work for it. Don't be easy or just the fallback anymore.


that's what my daddy said, not to be the "sure thing"

TxsGal3333's photo
Thu 05/22/08 08:30 AM
Humm well honestly most with most guys it takes them to see what they have lost when it is not there anymore. Or when it is not there as often. It sounds to me he does care about you as well as you do him. But seems that he has a problem giving his all in a relationship. Just my opinion, does not mean you should give up but to bring it to his attention. As you have been doing, don't be there every second he commands you to be. Put some distance between you two. It will make him see that hey I miss her and I don't like this idea. It may be the wake up call he needs.

But to pull away completely and walk away will leave you with what if's for the rest of your life. noway

Relationships do not come easy and at times they need more of an effort then some bother to give. If one does not at least try every option then you will never know if it really would have happen.

To me it is best to give your all before you walk away for if you don't you will never know and always wonder what if. Don't leave what if's in the past. They will eat you alive.noway

MissyAnn's photo
Thu 05/22/08 08:40 AM

Humm well honestly most with most guys it takes them to see what they have lost when it is not there anymore. Or when it is not there as often. It sounds to me he does care about you as well as you do him. But seems that he has a problem giving his all in a relationship. Just my opinion, does not mean you should give up but to bring it to his attention. As you have been doing, don't be there every second he commands you to be. Put some distance between you two. It will make him see that hey I miss her and I don't like this idea. It may be the wake up call he needs.

But to pull away completely and walk away will leave you with what if's for the rest of your life. noway

Relationships do not come easy and at times they need more of an effort then some bother to give. If one does not at least try every option then you will never know if it really would have happen.

To me it is best to give your all before you walk away for if you don't you will never know and always wonder what if. Don't leave what if's in the past. They will eat you alive.noway


And they would....I do not know why I am so crazy about this man, but I am...and obviously I do not want to give him up....I am hoping that he does miss me..

Folks, maybe our diabolical plan is working! LOL

ElaineSeekingJerry's photo
Thu 05/22/08 08:56 AM
Just wondering why you mentioned YOU going over to HIS place the last 2 nights ... is there a reason he can't make the effort to at least come to you? Curious, that's all. I know for myself, I tend not to require enough of the men in my life and I make too much of the effort - trying to correct that -- wondered if you have the same tendancies. Gotta make 'em work for it, right? We all appreciate stuff more when it's not handed to us (but it's tough ... I know!! embarassed )

MissyAnn's photo
Thu 05/22/08 09:14 AM
I have an adult son that lives at my house...and he only lives 60 seconds from me, so it's just better that way.

And, I have a small apartment, he has a larger house!

Good question, though!

MissyAnn's photo
Thu 05/22/08 09:15 AM

Just wondering why you mentioned YOU going over to HIS place the last 2 nights ... is there a reason he can't make the effort to at least come to you? Curious, that's all. I know for myself, I tend not to require enough of the men in my life and I make too much of the effort - trying to correct that -- wondered if you have the same tendancies. Gotta make 'em work for it, right? We all appreciate stuff more when it's not handed to us (but it's tough ... I know!! embarassed )


And I do tend to make things easy for the men in my life....hell, I shampooed his damn carpet this weekend!

ElaineSeekingJerry's photo
Thu 05/22/08 11:00 AM
noway No wonder he keeps calling ... I'd propose to you myself if you were willing to come over and shampoo my carpets! :wink:

MissyAnn's photo
Thu 05/22/08 12:19 PM

noway No wonder he keeps calling ... I'd propose to you myself if you were willing to come over and shampoo my carpets! :wink:


LMAOlaugh

that is not the half of it....fela-bathed his to dogs and pruned his roses...he helped of course...I swear we are already like some old married couple anyway....I just don't get it!

And he even changed the oil in my car and detailed it, so it's not like it's a one way thing.....Men!

MissyAnn's photo
Thu 05/22/08 12:23 PM


Guys are always willing participants...LOL! :tongue: :wink:

So not true....:angry:


that is nice to know!

rachelbly77's photo
Thu 05/22/08 12:37 PM
From the description you gave... Ya'll have a boyfriend/girlfriend type relationship. The fact that he is unwilling to call it that, and claims it is just because the spark isn't there, usually means that he is keeping you on the back burner until something else comes along.
You might want him, but nothing you do will make him want you. You can back off and see if your daddy is right. Make yourself less available and maybe he will realize what he is missing...

If not, then you know it wasn't meant to be. But you should put your wonderful efforts into someone who is deserving of your love and affection, and time!

MissyAnn's photo
Thu 05/22/08 12:59 PM

From the description you gave... Ya'll have a boyfriend/girlfriend type relationship. The fact that he is unwilling to call it that, and claims it is just because the spark isn't there, usually means that he is keeping you on the back burner until something else comes along.
You might want him, but nothing you do will make him want you. You can back off and see if your daddy is right. Make yourself less available and maybe he will realize what he is missing...

If not, then you know it wasn't meant to be. But you should put your wonderful efforts into someone who is deserving of your love and affection, and time!


I actually just accepted a date for tomorrow night with someone...I hated it, but did it anyway...This is a great man with alot going for him; I have been putting him off waiting to see what might arise from this other thing. I am going to stop turning down offers in hopes that I will find someone that will make me forget about him. I really am, I swear, I mean it...honest...ohwell

ElaineSeekingJerry's photo
Thu 05/22/08 01:04 PM


From the description you gave... Ya'll have a boyfriend/girlfriend type relationship. The fact that he is unwilling to call it that, and claims it is just because the spark isn't there, usually means that he is keeping you on the back burner until something else comes along.
You might want him, but nothing you do will make him want you. You can back off and see if your daddy is right. Make yourself less available and maybe he will realize what he is missing...

If not, then you know it wasn't meant to be. But you should put your wonderful efforts into someone who is deserving of your love and affection, and time!


I actually just accepted a date for tomorrow night with someone...I hated it, but did it anyway...This is a great man with alot going for him; I have been putting him off waiting to see what might arise from this other thing. I am going to stop turning down offers in hopes that I will find someone that will make me forget about him. I really am, I swear, I mean it...honest...ohwell


WOW!!! Good for you, MissyAnn! That is a HUGE step forward ... I'm so impressed that you're really listening to everyone's input and trying to make constructive changes for yourself. drinker Your honesty, humour and opennness make you a GREAT catch, so save yourself for someone who can't stop reminding you of that fact, k?! :wink:

MissyAnn's photo
Thu 05/22/08 01:45 PM



From the description you gave... Ya'll have a boyfriend/girlfriend type relationship. The fact that he is unwilling to call it that, and claims it is just because the spark isn't there, usually means that he is keeping you on the back burner until something else comes along.
You might want him, but nothing you do will make him want you. You can back off and see if your daddy is right. Make yourself less available and maybe he will realize what he is missing...

If not, then you know it wasn't meant to be. But you should put your wonderful efforts into someone who is deserving of your love and affection, and time!


I actually just accepted a date for tomorrow night with someone...I hated it, but did it anyway...This is a great man with alot going for him; I have been putting him off waiting to see what might arise from this other thing. I am going to stop turning down offers in hopes that I will find someone that will make me forget about him. I really am, I swear, I mean it...honest...ohwell


WOW!!! Good for you, MissyAnn! That is a HUGE step forward ... I'm so impressed that you're really listening to everyone's input and trying to make constructive changes for yourself. drinker Your honesty, humour and opennness make you a GREAT catch, so save yourself for someone who can't stop reminding you of that fact, k?! :wink:


You hear that guys, I'm a catch...and available, with a twisted sense of humor, to boot....

I have been searching for a place (site) where I know there are people that are impartial and would give it to me straight. My friends here seem to tell me what I want to hear, and that doesn't help. You people rock!!!