War elephant:

Are you being sarcastical/silly?

Lindyy

Yea for Marine1488

Lindyy

1) Humans can change. If someone feels that way at one point in his/her life, their opinion can change. That's not hypocracy, that's growth.

2) Can you show me links to those "quotes" from Rush Limbaugh?

I like Rush, if you had his talent, you wouldn't be dependant upon copy/paste to get your "message" across.

Fox news is mainstream media (atleast here in kentucky) and its pretty right wing. I would love to see a left wing media, just to see what crazy stuff they come up with cause right wing goes nuts lol.

I would love to comment on this..but since I've only listened to Rush a couple of times (long ago before he was "anybody") and decided then that he was full of himself, I cant add anything to the topic..but he's made a career out of dishing crap that people want to hear....

I was referencing the historical mainstream media that unfortunately is the way the majority of Americans get at least some of their doom and gloo...er news. ABC, NBC CBS The NY Times and other major news outlets. You can say that AP is biased because they are. Same with CNN, CNBC, well.. just about every news channel on TV other than fox.

If you want to see left wing media just open your eyes and watch ABC,NBC or CBS. You will get left wing shoved down your throat and wont even know it.

Talent?? Talent???!!! I have more talent in my big toe and it is not very talented lol

Your kidding right? havent you heard about all those old generals getting coached by the pentagon to spin the news in there favor? When you look at the state ofthe country Led by the republicans one almost wishes we had a left wing media to serve its roll as a watchdog to the government, had they done that we may not be in the stinking mess we are in now

I was reading something on the spin "classes" given the generals and the pentagon monitored what they said on all those talk shows to make sure they were doing what they were supposed to be too. Otherwise they were not considered "military experts" with the pentagons approval anymore. It is a shame that people do not fight this tyranny

I do not mind if the extreme right uses its right of freedom of speach but it shouldbe balanced by the exxtreme left not balanced by a cenerist righ wing moderate

Do you have a quater of a billion dollars (self made) in the bank? If not and you have so much talent, why is it going to waste?

I don't know. Maybe I should look into radio, huh?

Nope wrong again. If we are gonna pretend about what would be a good media it would be a non biased one. One that merely states the facts with no spin at all.

Another thing, people don't get convinced by someone like Rush. They typically listen to him because they actually share his opinion. I listened to Schnitt last summer when I was working at an internship and I found it entertaining. I did agree with his opinions on things like anti big government and anti immigration because those are my own beliefs. I believe that applies to most of the people that listen to that kind of stuff. We may not agree with everything, but on basic principles we might.

here is some of what the so called left wing media has done for corperate Umerika............have helped create the myth that social security is failing, paving the way for the realization of one of the right's political wet dreams: privatization of social security
perpetuate conservative myths about wellfare and simultanously turn a blind eye to corporate wellfare
sensationalize street crime and ignore corporate crime
treat religious right groups such as the Promise Keepers with kid's gloves and thus help legitimize them in the public perception
generally avoid reporting on the lunatic fringe of the right, such as militias, neo-Nazis and anti-abortion terrorists, and in particular, avoid examining the personal and ideological connections these groups have to the Republican party
created the perception that there is widespread popular opposition to affirmative action when in fact most people support it
all but ignore waste, mismanagment and corruption in the military-industrial complex, especially as it relates to the planned missile defense system
downplayed protests against the IMF, the World Bank and the WTO by portraying protestors as leftist fringe groups, communists and anarchists
report corporate PR as legitimate scientific research.
Given these facts, the claim of the liberal media bias is shaky enough as it relates to major newspapers and television networks. But when one admits radio stations into the picture, the claim becomes wholly preposterous. Conservative hate radio has been carpet bombing the nation with hard-right ideology, unbridled hatred towards liberals and Clinton, distortions, lies and bogus science for years. Hate radio hosts like Rush Limbaugh, Gordon Liddy, Michael Reagan and Oliver North are heard by millions of people every day, and they have no progressive counterparts of any significance. Not exactly surprising, considering that corporate sponsors have a vested interest in supporting pro-business voices, and suppressing progressive ones.

http://www.webpan.com/dsinclair/myths.html

Where'd you hear about spin classes for our generals? Was it from mainstream/left wing media or did you hear/read it from one of your hardcore militant moveon.orc type outlets?

Ridiculous.

Yeah and when you do, let me know how easy it is to do a better job than the most successful radio talkshow host in history.

That reminds me of the law they were trying to pass that would make radio stations have a liberal talk radio for every conservative one. The thing is noone really wants to listen to liberal radio. They have tried to put shows together and they just lose money.

As far as your facts go, I don't know who you have been talking to, but every time I talk to someone about affirmative action they oppose it just like I do. It should be the most qualified person. I have friends that are asian and can't get into med school cause those schools only take so many asians. Affirmative action works against some groups.

You also mentioned social security. Well, with the lowering value of the dollar and all the baby boomers reaching retirement age how is social security not in trouble? If given the choice, I would rather not be taxed for social security and save for my own retirement. Lets also remember that social security was set up to help those affected by the great depression. It wasn't established to last forever.

Anyone who has watched the military analysts hired by TV networks has heard rosy assessments of the war in Iraq. The similarities between their judgments and the Pentagon’s are not coincidental. As The New York Times demonstrated by suing the Pentagon to obtain 8,000 pages of documents, those analysts were enlisted by the Defense Department in a psychological warfare operation targeting the domestic audience. And, as the newspaper reported Sunday, many of the retired military officers appearing on news shows were using their access to the Pentagon and the airwaves to procure lucrative contracts for some 150 defense contractors, which employed them as consultants, board members, lobbyists, or executives.

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/04/22/8453/