Topic: How to deal with my white guilt
FearandLoathing's photo
Thu 04/24/08 09:57 AM

lmaooooooooooooooooooo I have to laugh at this thread!!!!laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh


Good I wasn't the only onelaugh

Winx's photo
Thu 04/24/08 10:00 AM

is this the same chick that parks in your spot?


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Fade2Black's photo
Thu 04/24/08 10:01 AM

There is a young lady I've grown quite fond of. However, she happens to be African-American, and I am Euro-American, so I know that normally she would never be interested in me. But I think she will be if she sees that I'm different: that I'm sensitive, emotionally enabled, and that I am sorry for all the evil my race has perpetuated. But what is the best way for me to do this?




Whatevaaaaaaaah. We're humans. That's all. You start with the I'm so sorry shpeel ... for goodness sake, take about racist? Just treat her as you would anyone else on the planet .. as a WOMAN. End of story. Everyone's got sh*t in their closet anyway. puhlllllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeze.

FearandLoathing's photo
Thu 04/24/08 10:04 AM


There is a young lady I've grown quite fond of. However, she happens to be African-American, and I am Euro-American, so I know that normally she would never be interested in me. But I think she will be if she sees that I'm different: that I'm sensitive, emotionally enabled, and that I am sorry for all the evil my race has perpetuated. But what is the best way for me to do this?




Whatevaaaaaaaah. We're humans. That's all. You start with the I'm so sorry shpeel ... for goodness sake, take about racist? Just treat her as you would anyone else on the planet .. as a WOMAN. End of story. Everyone's got sh*t in their closet anyway. puhlllllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeze.



See...this is what I was thinking, in my own head "sound racist much"...but I was kind enought just point out that human is a race, so the equation goes race=human, human=fail...as if this thread didn't prove that alone.

Fade2Black's photo
Thu 04/24/08 12:19 PM



There is a young lady I've grown quite fond of. However, she happens to be African-American, and I am Euro-American, so I know that normally she would never be interested in me. But I think she will be if she sees that I'm different: that I'm sensitive, emotionally enabled, and that I am sorry for all the evil my race has perpetuated. But what is the best way for me to do this?




Whatevaaaaaaaah. We're humans. That's all. You start with the I'm so sorry shpeel ... for goodness sake, take about racist? Just treat her as you would anyone else on the planet .. as a WOMAN. End of story. Everyone's got sh*t in their closet anyway. puhlllllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeze.



See...this is what I was thinking, in my own head "sound racist much"...but I was kind enought just point out that human is a race, so the equation goes race=human, human=fail...as if this thread didn't prove that alone.




grumble What you sayin Fear? I'm not KIND? devil devil devil devil devil devil devil devil






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d4tc's photo
Thu 04/24/08 01:34 PM
Edited by d4tc on Thu 04/24/08 01:35 PM
Ned,

Check this out bro, I'm not sure what everyone else has said so if my advice sounds repetitive then so be it.

What you need to do is just be yourself. If she does not like you for WHO YOU ARE, then so be it. You tried. Just approach her with confidence. Be HONEST! Don't try to sugar coat who you are too her. Chicks have a 7th sense we don't have. It's called the, I can read through your BS, sense. Just be straight up. Don't let her nationality persuade your intentions by any thoughts of rejection. I have been rejected many times. It's not all about what you say or how you say it. You are putting too much on it if you think this way. What I mean is if she says Yo! Yo! Yo! Don't feel you have to throw out a 'Yo!' of your own. Not to say there is anything wrong with this. Just don't TRY to impress her. Be yourself, use your sense of humor. If you are trying to meet her approval by being less like yourself and more like someone your not to impress her then you have failed. Here is another example, if I'm dating a chinese girl and I bring over a bonsai plant to her house thinking I'm going to impress her then what if every other guy has done this? Instead, show up with carton of eggs and tell her you will take your eggs scrambled in the morning(or however you like them), LOL!

Bry395's photo
Thu 04/24/08 01:46 PM
Interesting situation, Personaly I feel that the color of a person's skin doesn't make the person WHO they are. I wonder though, why do you feel the need to apologize for something you were not even responsible for? The past is just that...the past

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Thu 04/24/08 01:48 PM
i have no white guilt so can't relate.

Cambolaya65's photo
Thu 04/24/08 01:50 PM
every race should feel a small amount of shame,then move on.

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Thu 04/24/08 01:51 PM
i have no shame..laugh

Dragoness's photo
Thu 04/24/08 01:55 PM

There is a young lady I've grown quite fond of. However, she happens to be African-American, and I am Euro-American, so I know that normally she would never be interested in me. But I think she will be if she sees that I'm different: that I'm sensitive, emotionally enabled, and that I am sorry for all the evil my race has perpetuated. But what is the best way for me to do this?


First off, do not obsess over it, most black folks are over it too. They want people to understand it happened and that it was wrong but they are ready to let go of the anger. The black folks who consider me family are only really bothered by the prejudice they experience today and now. I have seen it and I could not handle what they go through.

My advice to you is let go of all taught prejudices about black folks that you have been taught or have heard, those will be the ones to get you in trouble. Don't call any of the men "boy", this one is still a little tender for them. Be open to the differences of culture and enjoy her.

I have so much love for my "sister" (we consider ourselves sisters) and her family. They are strong and tight knit and caring.

I hope this helps

no photo
Thu 04/24/08 07:38 PM

There is a young lady I've grown quite fond of. However, she happens to be African-American, and I am Euro-American, so I know that normally she would never be interested in me. But I think she will be if she sees that I'm different: that I'm sensitive, emotionally enabled, and that I am sorry for all the evil my race has perpetuated. But what is the best way for me to do this?


The best thing to do is to not obsess about your "white guilt" to begin with. That goes especially if your family lineage has its origins elsewhere on the globe during the era of slavery during the 1770's-1840's.

For example- I was put through a rather heated confrontation with someone who called me racist because of what happened in the U.S. up to the Civil War as a guilt-by-association ploy.

I politely told the person that-

1- I'm actually half-Asian (South Korean, in fact), and -unless my knowledge of world history is screwy- they had next to nothing to do with the whole slavery bit back in the day.

2- The other half of my family immigrated to the United States from Cork, Ireland back during the late 1880's and went to work in the coal mines of Kentucky not long after. As is the case, they had little (if anything) to do with slavery either.

If anything, both halves of my current family tree had their OWN battles to fight with regard to racism, so to be lumped in as a "racist" all because of the assumption that my family was here since the thirteen colonies was simply not an accurate statement to make. But they still make that particular statement, though.

But I digress. If you want to ask her out, then ask her out. Leave the fear of racism thing out of it as much as you can. If she can't get over the color of YOUR skin, go look for someone else. It's simply not worth the stress or the agony.

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Thu 04/24/08 07:42 PM
to start u need to quit thinking that there is any difference because there is not.
try to conquer her heart if u r honest she will see it, and she will appreciate what u r doing.

txmomof2's photo
Thu 04/24/08 07:45 PM
awww ((((miguel)))

FearandLoathing's photo
Fri 04/25/08 01:12 AM




There is a young lady I've grown quite fond of. However, she happens to be African-American, and I am Euro-American, so I know that normally she would never be interested in me. But I think she will be if she sees that I'm different: that I'm sensitive, emotionally enabled, and that I am sorry for all the evil my race has perpetuated. But what is the best way for me to do this?



Whatevaaaaaaaah. We're humans. That's all. You start with the I'm so sorry shpeel ... for goodness sake, take about racist? Just treat her as you would anyone else on the planet .. as a WOMAN. End of story. Everyone's got sh*t in their closet anyway. puhlllllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeze.



See...this is what I was thinking, in my own head "sound racist much"...but I was kind enought just point out that human is a race, so the equation goes race=human, human=fail...as if this thread didn't prove that alone.




grumble What you sayin Fear? I'm not KIND? devil devil devil devil devil devil devil devil






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Ok so I was being rather not so blunt about it, but at the same time being blunt...but still the equation goes, race=human+fail=human fails-perpetuated existance+niave thought of existance=fail*trouble/extinct=human fails...so you see it all really comes down too; YOU FAIL.

Jim519's photo
Fri 04/25/08 02:03 AM

What I really need to know, is how do I apologize to her for the evils of my race? I am working on a poem about all that African-Americans have had to go though. I call it "My Noble Sister". I think if I read it to her with the right amount of emotional projection, she will see I am not the typical evil white man.


So are you calling me evil? You dont need to apologize for me in any way shape or form.....

bad_girl's photo
Fri 04/25/08 02:50 AM
(((jim))) hi handsome and no you are not evilflowerforyou


What I really need to know, is how do I apologize to her for the evils of my race? I am working on a poem about all that African-Americans have had to go though. I call it "My Noble Sister". I think if I read it to her with the right amount of emotional projection, she will see I am not the typical evil white man.


So are you calling me evil? You dont need to apologize for me in any way shape or form.....

Winx's photo
Fri 04/25/08 07:08 AM

i have no shame..laugh


You bad.laugh

TheCaptain's photo
Fri 04/25/08 07:28 AM
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longhairbiker's photo
Fri 04/25/08 07:44 AM
Its april 25th 2008. What century are you living in and what planet are you from? I mean hello, you are not jesus christ and do not have to bear the sins of the world on your shoulders my freind. I farted yesterday. Doesn't mean you have to feel guilty about my flattulence. Guilt trippin is not really attractive nor good for your health. You are a highly educated, cultured, well read gentleman. Bearing others shame or guilt does not suit you. This does not seem practical. I am not understanding the deeper reasoning behind your actions.