Topic: teacher issues
yellowrose10's photo
Wed 04/23/08 12:00 AM
Jim...I get what you are trying to imply lol but IMO it shouldn't matter who has kids or not. it's a public school where all types of people's tax dollars pay and I wouldn't want or expet any teacher to only teach 1 view. I prefer my child to be well rounded and to learn to think for himself with all the information given to him. if some don't care if their kids learn only one view...that is their choice...but not mine. and I will say something and stand up. the world never ceases to amaze me though lol

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Wed 04/23/08 11:14 AM




you saying teachers dont have rights to express their opinions. last i checked this still was a democracy though that fact gets further skewed year after year. i guess most people want everyone to share the same beliefs and ideas. that sounds so communistic we as a society are heading towards that and its kinda scary.


Yes we all have our rights to our own opinions but you lose your right when it comes to my child....Its my obligation to instruct my child as I see fit.


Perhaps you should home school your child, so no teacher can put any of their thoughts into your kid's head?



I see that you dont have children?


No, I do not. Good to know you can read and check up on that, though. :wink:

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Wed 04/23/08 11:58 AM
Oil is worth fighting for. drinker

itsmetina's photo
Wed 04/23/08 12:00 PM

Oil is worth fighting for. drinker
now deluxe how is that view respecting our soldiers especial the ones that have given their lifes up for us

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Wed 04/23/08 12:02 PM


Oil is worth fighting for. drinker
now deluxe how is that view respecting our soldiers especial the ones that have given their lifes up for us


It is OIL that DRIVES the economy. The US economy and the WORLD economy. drinker

docburneraz's photo
Wed 04/23/08 12:03 PM




OK...why are we there...I'm curious??? and that is the point...why???



Good question
The Pentagon is tired of kissing Saudi butthole. And then having to pay for the privalege

itsmetina's photo
Wed 04/23/08 12:04 PM
i'll bite my lip darling

whereuat85's photo
Wed 04/23/08 12:04 PM
i support our troops just not the war according to recent polls im in the majority.

forever_fifites's photo
Wed 04/23/08 12:09 PM

i've been informed by my 9 yr old son that his teacher told the class we are fighting for oil.this angers me.although i don't want to embarress my son by complaining i'm not comfortable with the teacher telling the class this.what do yall think?


CORRECTION. Our young men and women are dying in Iraq so that the price of oil can remain high enough that when Bush and Cheney get out of office they can go back into the oil drilling business and become even more wealthy. All this works wonderfully with ties the Bushes have with the Saudi royal family. If you need any more information just ask me. drinker

whereuat85's photo
Wed 04/23/08 12:16 PM
here is my take on iraq. the people over their have been crazy for years whether we leave tomorrow or a 100 years from now they will still be crazy. heres a thought lets use 100 percent of our military to capture bin laden and the rest of alqaeda then we can move on and properly mourn september 11.

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Wed 04/23/08 12:22 PM
As much as I belive in the freedom of speech and all of that. If we allow our teachers to spout thier beliefs in classrooms instead of teaching our children what is next. This teacher feels the right to tell what she belives next is it going to be religion how offended would some of you be if your kids teacher started telling your kids that christianity or what ever belief you hold is wrong.

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 04/23/08 12:25 PM
the point of this thread isn'twhy WE think we are at war...it's the responsiblity of public school teachers to not use the class room for their agendas

there are many forms of teachers out there..parents being one. I teach my son to use his own brain and not just follow one side but to hear all sides before going gung ho on something. isn't that the responsible thing to do to help him become a good adult?

I'm a dance teacher (i know not a school teacher) but I'm very close to my students and we talk about a lot of things..what they hear from school, tv, friends etc. i may give them my opinion but i state that's just my opinion but i also give what i have heard other sides believe. if a 9 yr old student asked me about why we were at war...yes i might tell them what i believe is the reason (but state that's my belief) but give other sides as well. i would also suggest they talk to their parents about it as well.

itsmetina's photo
Wed 04/23/08 12:27 PM
how can we explain to any child why we are at war we don't know ourselfs

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Wed 04/23/08 02:59 PM
Teachers have a responsiblity to offer both sides of a controversial issue. The teacher should offer both sides or none. To offer only one side of a controversial issue is indocrination. I would talk to the teacher in private, if that happens again then take it to the superintendent.

Jim519's photo
Wed 04/23/08 03:40 PM





you saying teachers dont have rights to express their opinions. last i checked this still was a democracy though that fact gets further skewed year after year. i guess most people want everyone to share the same beliefs and ideas. that sounds so communistic we as a society are heading towards that and its kinda scary.


Yes we all have our rights to our own opinions but you lose your right when it comes to my child....Its my obligation to instruct my child as I see fit.


Perhaps you should home school your child, so no teacher can put any of their thoughts into your kid's head?



I see that you dont have children?


No, I do not. Good to know you can read and check up on that, though. :wink:



Very good to know...:wink:

You can go ahead and pull your foot out of your mouth now

Jim519's photo
Wed 04/23/08 03:43 PM

Jim...I get what you are trying to imply lol but IMO it shouldn't matter who has kids or not. it's a public school where all types of people's tax dollars pay and I wouldn't want or expet any teacher to only teach 1 view. I prefer my child to be well rounded and to learn to think for himself with all the information given to him. if some don't care if their kids learn only one view...that is their choice...but not mine. and I will say something and stand up. the world never ceases to amaze me though lol


Rose,
I am with you 100%...But for one or two to insinuate that one should homeschool their children, or assume in saying that they are "sure" they did it the right way...and not have children to be able to relate to the emotion or passion?...Well..you know me

The teacher should be able to delegate it into a debateable form, where a child can understand and make their own decision. A 9 year old is not old enough to comprehend these types of opinions. The teacher was flat out wrong...Period. Not a topic for 9 year olds right now

IndnPrncs's photo
Wed 04/23/08 03:58 PM


Jim...I get what you are trying to imply lol but IMO it shouldn't matter who has kids or not. it's a public school where all types of people's tax dollars pay and I wouldn't want or expet any teacher to only teach 1 view. I prefer my child to be well rounded and to learn to think for himself with all the information given to him. if some don't care if their kids learn only one view...that is their choice...but not mine. and I will say something and stand up. the world never ceases to amaze me though lol


Rose,
I am with you 100%...But for one or two to insinuate that one should homeschool their children, or assume in saying that they are "sure" they did it the right way...and not have children to be able to relate to the emotion or passion?...Well..you know me

The teacher should be able to delegate it into a debateable form, where a child can understand and make their own decision. A 9 year old is not old enough to comprehend these types of opinions. The teacher was flat out wrong...Period. Not a topic for 9 year olds right now


I agree Jimmy.... There are other points I'm sure that I may agree or partially agree.. But a 9 yr old surely doesn't need to decide what is right or wrong about the war.. They should not be burdened with these thoughts... They only thought young children should have is "is my homework done, chores, what sport am I playing, what instrument, etc"... let kids be kids... As for home schooling to each their own, it's not my preference and I'm glad it wasn't my parents either... I am appreciative that I was able to socialize with various people not just my parents and whomever lived in my neighborhood and I feel that my children are better off for the same experience...

Jim519's photo
Wed 04/23/08 04:02 PM



Jim...I get what you are trying to imply lol but IMO it shouldn't matter who has kids or not. it's a public school where all types of people's tax dollars pay and I wouldn't want or expet any teacher to only teach 1 view. I prefer my child to be well rounded and to learn to think for himself with all the information given to him. if some don't care if their kids learn only one view...that is their choice...but not mine. and I will say something and stand up. the world never ceases to amaze me though lol


Rose,
I am with you 100%...But for one or two to insinuate that one should homeschool their children, or assume in saying that they are "sure" they did it the right way...and not have children to be able to relate to the emotion or passion?...Well..you know me

The teacher should be able to delegate it into a debateable form, where a child can understand and make their own decision. A 9 year old is not old enough to comprehend these types of opinions. The teacher was flat out wrong...Period. Not a topic for 9 year olds right now


I agree Jimmy.... There are other points I'm sure that I may agree or partially agree.. But a 9 yr old surely doesn't need to decide what is right or wrong about the war.. They should not be burdened with these thoughts... They only thought young children should have is "is my homework done, chores, what sport am I playing, what instrument, etc"... let kids be kids... As for home schooling to each their own, it's not my preference and I'm glad it wasn't my parents either... I am appreciative that I was able to socialize with various people not just my parents and whomever lived in my neighborhood and I feel that my children are better off for the same experience...


I agree and for one am not against homeschool. To each their own, it's not for me or my child, but may be for someone else. What I meant was for someone to say that one should maybe homeschool their child because a teacher has a biased opinion is flat out idiotic.....And that is being niceflowerforyou

IndnPrncs's photo
Wed 04/23/08 04:03 PM




Jim...I get what you are trying to imply lol but IMO it shouldn't matter who has kids or not. it's a public school where all types of people's tax dollars pay and I wouldn't want or expet any teacher to only teach 1 view. I prefer my child to be well rounded and to learn to think for himself with all the information given to him. if some don't care if their kids learn only one view...that is their choice...but not mine. and I will say something and stand up. the world never ceases to amaze me though lol


Rose,
I am with you 100%...But for one or two to insinuate that one should homeschool their children, or assume in saying that they are "sure" they did it the right way...and not have children to be able to relate to the emotion or passion?...Well..you know me

The teacher should be able to delegate it into a debateable form, where a child can understand and make their own decision. A 9 year old is not old enough to comprehend these types of opinions. The teacher was flat out wrong...Period. Not a topic for 9 year olds right now


I agree Jimmy.... There are other points I'm sure that I may agree or partially agree.. But a 9 yr old surely doesn't need to decide what is right or wrong about the war.. They should not be burdened with these thoughts... They only thought young children should have is "is my homework done, chores, what sport am I playing, what instrument, etc"... let kids be kids... As for home schooling to each their own, it's not my preference and I'm glad it wasn't my parents either... I am appreciative that I was able to socialize with various people not just my parents and whomever lived in my neighborhood and I feel that my children are better off for the same experience...


I agree and for one am not against homeschool. To each their own, it's not for me or my child, but may be for someone else. What I meant was for someone to say that one should maybe homeschool their child because a teacher has a biased opinion is flat out idiotic.....And that is being niceflowerforyou



That's why I love ya babes....flowerforyou

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 04/23/08 04:09 PM
what I said about homeschooling or private schools is meant for people that only want one view of things. the public schools shouldn't only offer one side. I wouldn't even (or haven't said I would homeschool) but I did say the parents should stand up and say something. who knows...maybe the teacher didn't even realize how the teaching came acros...maybe it was for an agenda...who knows. that is why, as parents, we should speak up for our kids and say something. but a public school shouldn't offer only one side when tax dollars come from people of all beliefs.