Topic: teacher issues
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Tue 04/22/08 06:03 PM

you saying teachers dont have rights to express their opinions. last i checked this still was a democracy though that fact gets further skewed year after year. i guess most people want everyone to share the same beliefs and ideas. that sounds so communistic we as a society are heading towards that and its kinda scary.


Yes we all have our rights to our own opinions but you lose your right when it comes to my child....Its my obligation to instruct my child as I see fit.

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Tue 04/22/08 06:04 PM
could u imagine a teacher teaching about adolf hithler with no objectivity

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 04/22/08 06:04 PM
what I'm saying is the teacher should teach ALL sides as part of their job in a public school. taxpayers pay their salaries and there are many different beliefs from the tax payers. if someone wants to teach only their views...teach at a private school where you can teach kids that share that view. it's irresponsible to only teach one side of anything

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Tue 04/22/08 06:05 PM
all im saying is a teacher cant truly teach with out expressing their own opinions

FearandLoathing's photo
Tue 04/22/08 06:08 PM

all im saying is a teacher cant truly teach with out expressing their own opinions


Objectivity comes to mind, as a public school teacher it is your responsibility to teach all sides of an argument. I had an awesome history teacher that taught both sides of the Hitler argument (actually was a few different sides) and I think that is a teacher worth having...a teacher that only teaches their opinion on the matter isn't going to teach much.

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Tue 04/22/08 06:09 PM
someone in the class probably asked her opinion.which she gave im probably in the minority but i dont see it as a bad thing.

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 04/22/08 06:10 PM
there might be a hint of the teacher's feelings but not to outright teach only one side of anything just because that's your view. it's like a teacher ONLY teaching christman and nothing else. to help our kids become well rounded and to use their own brains....you have to teach it all

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Tue 04/22/08 06:11 PM
im sure she brought up all sides of the argument then gave her opinion.

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Tue 04/22/08 06:13 PM

im sure she brought up all sides of the argument then gave her opinion.


From reading the thread...it doesn't sound like it, however the child could of not told everything...but that is highly doubtful as well.

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Tue 04/22/08 06:28 PM
according to the OP...that was the only reason the child gave. I promise you i would ask my child if anything else was taught and if the answer is no...then i will have a talk with the teacher

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Tue 04/22/08 06:41 PM


you saying teachers dont have rights to express their opinions. last i checked this still was a democracy though that fact gets further skewed year after year. i guess most people want everyone to share the same beliefs and ideas. that sounds so communistic we as a society are heading towards that and its kinda scary.


Yes we all have our rights to our own opinions but you lose your right when it comes to my child....Its my obligation to instruct my child as I see fit.


Perhaps you should home school your child, so no teacher can put any of their thoughts into your kid's head?

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Tue 04/22/08 06:49 PM
Im wondering what subject the teacher is teaching...if its sociology, civics, etc..then perhaps its not such a bad thing, however if its the Home Ed or Music teacher then thats an opinion and should be kept to ones self.

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Tue 04/22/08 06:56 PM
symbel...the child is 9 so most elementary schools that I know...the teachers teach everything

but why should I or anyone have to home school when our tax dollars pay the teacher's salary???? it's their job to teach all sides not just her personal agenda. i say her...but could be a he as well. if the teacher wants to only teach their beliefs and one side...then they need to teach at a private school where the parents pay for a particular side. not when it's a public school with many beliefs out there

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Tue 04/22/08 06:59 PM
It sounds like the teacher provided a great opportunity for open discussion at home, on a topic that might not otherwise have been addressed.

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Tue 04/22/08 07:00 PM

symbel...the child is 9 so most elementary schools that I know...the teachers teach everything

but why should I or anyone have to home school when our tax dollars pay the teacher's salary???? it's their job to teach all sides not just her personal agenda. i say her...but could be a he as well. if the teacher wants to only teach their beliefs and one side...then they need to teach at a private school where the parents pay for a particular side. not when it's a public school with many beliefs out there

well you have a point, and I agree..certain sectors with rigid beliefs should shoulder the burden of teaching their own children and not use the public school system, especially if they are going to turn around and complain about what is being taught.
However, teaching a subject and prosletyzing an opinion are two different things..teaching is an objective profession done by subjective humans, having been there myself I know its hard to keep your opinions to yourself..but, personal discipline should be the order of the day when one teaches..especially to the very young..

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Tue 04/22/08 07:02 PM


you saying teachers dont have rights to express their opinions. last i checked this still was a democracy though that fact gets further skewed year after year. i guess most people want everyone to share the same beliefs and ideas. that sounds so communistic we as a society are heading towards that and its kinda scary.


Yes we all have our rights to our own opinions but you lose your right when it comes to my child....Its my obligation to instruct my child as I see fit.



Absolutely! However, we can't protect our kids from what they will hear from other kids, other parents, and teachers. As parents, it IS our responsibility to help our kids sort out what they hear and help them to become problem-solvers and decision-makers.

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Tue 04/22/08 07:06 PM
the children were only 9 so my money is on the teacher pushing the views they believe. my son is a junior in HS and they have open forums in their class on these things. it makes the kids think and think for themselves more. but at 9???

it reminds me of a joke I once heard....billy asked his dad where did I come from...after explaining conception in depth...billy looked at his dad and said...but tommy said he was from Texas.

so there is the age to consider but also showing all sides. just like teaching creation only in schools and not offering evolution or any other theories. sorry but to me that is irresponsible for a teacher to do and I would speak to the teacher about it

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Tue 04/22/08 07:06 PM
I guess what the teacher did - the war for oil statement, doesn't really bother me. Not that I agree with the statement, but I have taught my children (13 & 16) from the time they started kindergarten that if a teacher made statements that were different than ones they heard from other adults, ask me. I'll let teachers teach the basics, and express thier opinions; but I hold the final word.

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Tue 04/22/08 07:13 PM



you saying teachers dont have rights to express their opinions. last i checked this still was a democracy though that fact gets further skewed year after year. i guess most people want everyone to share the same beliefs and ideas. that sounds so communistic we as a society are heading towards that and its kinda scary.


Yes we all have our rights to our own opinions but you lose your right when it comes to my child....Its my obligation to instruct my child as I see fit.


Perhaps you should home school your child, so no teacher can put any of their thoughts into your kid's head?



I see that you dont have children?

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Tue 04/22/08 07:13 PM
Edited by Jim519 on Tue 04/22/08 07:14 PM

could u imagine a teacher teaching about adolf hithler with no objectivity


And no children for you either


Unless you have a child of your own you will never understand...Period