Topic: Did Kain and Able marry monkeys?
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Tue 04/15/08 11:19 PM
Edited by iRon on Tue 04/15/08 11:20 PM
Dude he is God. I mean if your God wouldn't you create secret woman all over the place and share them with your buds? noway

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Tue 04/15/08 11:19 PM

13 Cain said to the LORD, "My punishment is more than I can bear. 14 Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me."

15 But the LORD said to him, "Not so [a]; anyone who kills Cain will suffer vengeance seven times over." Then the LORD put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him. 16 So Cain went out from the LORD's presence and lived in the land of Nod, east of Eden.


This implies that there were others outside of the Adam and Eve family
Implies. lol, I need facts man....tell me some truths here not "implied" things.

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Tue 04/15/08 11:21 PM
Edited by Peccy on Tue 04/15/08 11:21 PM


13 Cain said to the LORD, "My punishment is more than I can bear. 14 Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me."

15 But the LORD said to him, "Not so [a]; anyone who kills Cain will suffer vengeance seven times over." Then the LORD put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him. 16 So Cain went out from the LORD's presence and lived in the land of Nod, east of Eden.


This implies that there were others outside of the Adam and Eve family

If Adam and Eve were the first on earth wouldn't the other people be related anyway?
I misread, I apologize.

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Tue 04/15/08 11:23 PM
Look what you did,Peccy...You made us think againlaugh laugh

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Tue 04/15/08 11:24 PM
I read this the other day, and I firmly believe that these people lived to be 100s of years old so that God could populate the earth. It doesn't tell us that Cain and Abel were young when all of this took place, and it doesn't give us the population of Nod.

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Tue 04/15/08 11:27 PM

In the Bible it says the world was void of life until Adam & Eve were created and that they were the first two people on the planet.

2. It then says that Adam & Eve had two children who were called Kane & Able.

3. This means that there where now four people on the planet, right?

4. Then it says that Kane & Able took wives.

5. But if there were only four people on the planet? Were did these two women come from that Kane & Able married?? Maybe they married monkeys.


No, but they were probably Neandrathals. laugh

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Tue 04/15/08 11:30 PM

I read this the other day, and I firmly believe that these people lived to be 100s of years old so that God could populate the earth. It doesn't tell us that Cain and Abel were young when all of this took place, and it doesn't give us the population of Nod.


It didn't give us the population of Winken and Blinken, either! laugh

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Tue 04/15/08 11:31 PM
I'm not talking about population, I'm asking about 4 people, and no one has a definitive answer!

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Tue 04/15/08 11:33 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Tue 04/15/08 11:41 PM
Peccy...not that this applies to the question..but...man had already sinned in the garden....

God knew man would sin again, til God thru Jesus , could redeem us.....

http://www.answers2prayer.org/bible_questions/Answers/creation/cain_wife.html

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Tue 04/15/08 11:44 PM
Question still not answered. It's like ordering a steak and I keep getting cheeseburgers.

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Tue 04/15/08 11:44 PM

I read this the other day, and I firmly believe that these people lived to be 100s of years old so that God could populate the earth. It doesn't tell us that Cain and Abel were young when all of this took place, and it doesn't give us the population of Nod.


Adam for one......lived to be 800 years old.flowerforyou

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Tue 04/15/08 11:48 PM


13 Cain said to the LORD, "My punishment is more than I can bear. 14 Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me."

15 But the LORD said to him, "Not so [a]; anyone who kills Cain will suffer vengeance seven times over." Then the LORD put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him. 16 So Cain went out from the LORD's presence and lived in the land of Nod, east of Eden.


This implies that there were others outside of the Adam and Eve family
Implies. lol, I need facts man....tell me some truths here not "implied" things.


"Whover finds me will kill me" Up to this point the Bible only gives name of Adam, Eve, Cain, and Abel. Now this part is up for interpretation, but I don't get the feeling while reading this passage that Adam or Eve would come across Cain while he was wandering in another land and want to kill him. If your looking for definitive answers, the Bible may be the wrong book for you.

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Tue 04/15/08 11:52 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Tue 04/15/08 11:56 PM
Quite the contrary.

The Bible IS the RIGHT book .....flowerforyou


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Wed 04/16/08 12:01 AM
Where did Cain's wife come from and the people God protected Cain from with his mark upon him?


Where Did Cain Get His Wife?

Let us see who are mentioned in the Scriptures to be on the earth around Cain’s time.

Gen 1:1-2 “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.” NIV

Gen 1:27 “So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.” NIV

Gen 3:1 “Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God really say, 'You must not eat from any tree in the garden'?" NIV (We know that the serpent refers to the devil. See Rev. 12:9)

The main characters are all mentioned here: God, the creator, Adam and Eve, and the devil, the evil one who usurped Adam’s authority of our planet.

Now there are also the following characters:

Gen 4:1-2 “Adam lay with his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain. She said, "With the help of the LORD I have brought forth a man." Later she gave birth to his brother Abel.” NIV

Two of the descendants from Adam and Eve were Cain and Abel. The count seems full, but is it?

Right after Cain’s punishment by God he moves to the land of Nod and the first thing mentioned in the Bible that Cain does is Gen 4:17 “Cain lay with his wife, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch.” NIV

Where does that wife come from? When did the wedding take place? Is she an alien from outer space? Not at all.

We need to remember that often times in the Bible genealogies mention only the men, not the women. In the New Testament we see some women being included in genealogies, but not in the Old Testament. Read through Genesis and you will notice that only some of Eve’s sons are mentioned, but never is there a mention of a daughter being born to her, although she had daughters, which is conformed in the following two texts:

Gen 3:20 “Adam named his wife Eve, because she would become the mother of all the living.” NIV

And

Gen 5:4 “After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters.” NIV

Cain must have married his sister, as there was no one else on our planet, except God and the devil. The people inhabiting our planet in Cain’s life were all immediate and secondary descendants from Adam and Eve.

Now one may ask if this (Cain marrying his sister) isn’t incest.

If our civilization were to be raised out of one single pair (Adam and Eve), it would be unavoidable of such closely related marriages.

The notion of incest seems to evolve as the consequences of sin seem to expand through the world. At first, incest was referred to sexual relationships between parents and children. Later on, it was extended to relationships among siblings.

By the time the Pentateuch was written, the laws covered all kinds of incest (see Lev 18:7-17; 20:11-12,14,17,20-21; Deut 22:30; 27:20,22,23), covering incest with a dad, a mom, a stepdad, a stepmom, a brother, a sister, a half brother, a half sister, a grandson, a granddaughter, a son-in-law, a daughter-in-law, an uncle, an aunt or a brother’s wife.

Note though that before Moses’ time, Abraham married his half sister (Gen 20:12 “Besides, she really is my sister, the daughter of my father though not of my mother; and she became my wife.”); Amram (Moses’ dad) married his father’s sister (his aunt) named Jochebed (Ex 6:21 “Amram married his father's sister Jochebed, who bore him Aaron and Moses”. NIV) and it was never reported as incest. Close inbreeding in Ancient times was without any serious or genetic damage. However, today genetic damages are quite high. Could it be the effect of us not having to the tree of life (see Gen 3:22-24; Rev. 22:2) , as well as the degenerative consequences of sin?

No matter the reasons, we know that we have been bought back from sin through Jesus’ Christ, who came to die on our behalf, so that we would not face eternal death. He is the one who makes a difference in people’s lives. To have access to this promised life, you need to accept Him into your heart. He wants you to be his friend. Why don’t you do so now by answering His call at http://www.answers2prayer.org/saviours_call.html.



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Wed 04/16/08 12:15 AM


I read this the other day, and I firmly believe that these people lived to be 100s of years old so that God could populate the earth. It doesn't tell us that Cain and Abel were young when all of this took place, and it doesn't give us the population of Nod.


It didn't give us the population of Winken and Blinken, either! laugh


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Wed 04/16/08 02:03 AM
Edited by MorningSong on Wed 04/16/08 02:06 AM



I read this the other day, and I firmly believe that these people lived to be 100s of years old so that God could populate the earth. It doesn't tell us that Cain and Abel were young when all of this took place, and it doesn't give us the population of Nod.


It didn't give us the population of Winken and Blinken, either! laugh


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Ahhh ..NOW I got it.... laugh

Winking and Blinkinglaugh laugh laugh

and now, I think it's time for me to go "Nod" off to sleep now laugh

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Wed 04/16/08 02:17 AM

Realitively speaking, incest is best!



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Wed 04/16/08 02:32 AM

Abel didn't get married,because Cain killed him.And Cain married his sister.


But is also said he left and married someone after leaving. So he found other people.

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Wed 04/16/08 02:45 AM


Abel didn't get married,because Cain killed him.And Cain married his sister.


But is also said he left and married someone after leaving. So he found other people.
But how is that possible for there to be other people? We've already established there were only four. Three males and only one female.

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Wed 04/16/08 03:11 AM
Edited by MorningSong on Wed 04/16/08 03:16 AM
If Adam was around for 800 years, I am sure a lot of children were produced in that time.....
and eventually the children had children ....who had children who had children....and obviously some moved around the country....and muliplied some more... and some even moved into Cain's dwelling area...and of course, one of the female offspring , crossed into Cain's territory..and well.. the rest is biblical history .:wink:

Heck, who knows how old Cain was, before he met his wife...maybe he was already several hundred years old himself?
And his wife could have even been from a generation or two, down the line, already?

But obviously God did not think that tidbit of info , was really that important, I quess....so He did not reveal it to us.....just like we also don't have the EXACT date of Jesus birth.

And the reason most likely being....God did not want us to argue over details..but rather concentrate on a relationship with Him, instead.flowerforyou