Topic: Did Kain and Able marry monkeys?
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Wed 04/16/08 05:13 AM
this is why i dont reed the bible..its a story created by man..and as man is flawed so is the book

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Wed 04/16/08 05:51 AM
The Bible never says how many children Adam and Eve had. The Bible doesn't say or imply that when Cain murdered Abel that they were Adam and Eve's only children. The fact that Cain left Eden to go to another place does not prove anything. The rule with Biblical scholarship is to understand the customs and phrases of the time, but NEVER add or take away from the Bible. There is absolutely no reason why Cain couldn't have married his sister and had perfectly healthy kids. I see no problems with that scenario, it may be distasteful to us today, but at that time there was no other choice.

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Wed 04/16/08 05:52 AM
all beings are immortal but to know immortality ALL are seperated (hell) from their immortal self (GOD) first to learn the opposite of all immortality........to learn by EXPERIENCE time to understand timeless......to learn the OPPOSITE of all that is HEAVEN, bliss and creation without PHYSICAL TEDIOUS EFFORT.....

in scriptues, many things known/spoken as children 'refer to what the individual CREATED.........all things spoken within scripture were written by MORTAL men, each thing spoken was spoken from the perspective that mortal MIND thinking be satan, or "evil" created, and immortal understanding HEART, TRUTH, LOVE be the god HEART OF EACH being CREATING.....

the truth of the meaning of all scriptures is in each humans simple logic, and the scriptues each human NEED to know their own destiny speak to each of them different scriptures......to DIGEST or understand the scripture make for what one speak to not be the SCRIPTURE, but rather the whole meaning of the scriptue.......and make one NEVER FOLLOW the scriptures whispered by the mind.......JESUS had need for all scriptures to be removed from following to fullfil HIS destiny

MANY LOGICAL IMPOSSIBILITIES HAVE BEEN WISELY SPOKEN HERE, AND EACH HEART ANSWER BACK "NOT" LOGICAL........NO THEN TO KEEP ASKING ONESELF THE NEXT LOGICAL QUESTION WITHOUT FEAR AND REPEATING LEAD TO THE UNDERSTANDING OF ALL SCRIPTURES.........

all scripture was promised to be "locked" to keep the "plan" or way of revealing the "whole truth" secret until a time when all was completed......each human born is a missing link to reveal all WISDOM.......immortal wisdom knows all that happened yesterday to eternity and then into infinity......as all wisdom simply pass "thru" a being when NEEDED......it is NEVER contained or KNOWN........or learned in the way mortal logic learns......mortal logic is blocked each time when come to a fearful thought........the beginning of all wisdom is the FEAR of ones own HEART.....the same as to say BELIEVE IN YOUR OWN HEART.......THE KINGDOM CREATION OF HEAVEN ALL GOOD BE WITHIN ALREADY KNOWN......the the small inner voice that speak out softly when vulnerable.......why it was said that many "acts of GOD" were as destruction....tornadoes, hurricanes, volcanoes.....makes all think about what they REALLY love.......AND ASK QUESTIONS OF THEMSELF

all mortals took place in the creation of the planet as wisdomless gods in the beginning.......then each is sent to school, just as beings go to school here.......

if one begin to think of all there the same in PRINCIPLE as here, than what is HEAVEN or immortal is not that hard to figure out.......most will not have REASON to figure out if they are happy as mortals........the whole truth make all scriptures known to all as all love, and NO suffering or violence or "bad" or fear is within the "whole" meaning of all scriptues.......

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Fri 04/18/08 08:35 PM
this is one of the most stupid questions i have ever read.

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Fri 04/18/08 10:07 PM


13 Cain said to the LORD, "My punishment is more than I can bear. 14 Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me."

15 But the LORD said to him, "Not so [a]; anyone who kills Cain will suffer vengeance seven times over." Then the LORD put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him. 16 So Cain went out from the LORD's presence and lived in the land of Nod, east of Eden.


This implies that there were others outside of the Adam and Eve family

If Adam and Eve were the first on earth wouldn't the other people be related anyway?


Adam and Eve were not the first humans on earth. They were the first genetically engineered "new and improved" humans.

The engineers (Or creator God) took the primitive "pre-humans" living on the earth and engineered their DNA and made improvements on them.

Why do you suppose they have not found the missing link in the line of privative humans to homo sapiens?

I know, it does not say this in the Bible (in so many words) because who back then would understand DNA etc. These advanced scientists were viewed as Gods.

JB



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Fri 04/18/08 10:10 PM



13 Cain said to the LORD, "My punishment is more than I can bear. 14 Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me."

15 But the LORD said to him, "Not so [a]; anyone who kills Cain will suffer vengeance seven times over." Then the LORD put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him. 16 So Cain went out from the LORD's presence and lived in the land of Nod, east of Eden.


This implies that there were others outside of the Adam and Eve family

If Adam and Eve were the first on earth wouldn't the other people be related anyway?


Adam and Eve were not the first humans on earth. They were the first genetically engineered "new and improved" humans.

The engineers (Or creator God) took the primitive "pre-humans" living on the earth and engineered their DNA and made improvements on them.

Why do you suppose they have not found the missing link in the line of privative humans to homo sapiens?

I know, it does not say this in the Bible (in so many words) because who back then would understand DNA etc. These advanced scientists were viewed as Gods.

JB





What do you base that belief on?

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Fri 04/18/08 10:10 PM

this is one of the most stupid questions i have ever read.


Why is it a stupid question? Were or were there not other people on the earth?

JB

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Fri 04/18/08 10:12 PM


this is one of the most stupid questions i have ever read.


Why is it a stupid question? Were or were there not other people on the earth?

JB


Nope, Adam and Eve were the first.

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Fri 04/18/08 10:15 PM




13 Cain said to the LORD, "My punishment is more than I can bear. 14 Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me."

15 But the LORD said to him, "Not so [a]; anyone who kills Cain will suffer vengeance seven times over." Then the LORD put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him. 16 So Cain went out from the LORD's presence and lived in the land of Nod, east of Eden.


This implies that there were others outside of the Adam and Eve family

If Adam and Eve were the first on earth wouldn't the other people be related anyway?


Adam and Eve were not the first humans on earth. They were the first genetically engineered "new and improved" humans.

The engineers (Or creator God) took the primitive "pre-humans" living on the earth and engineered their DNA and made improvements on them.

Why do you suppose they have not found the missing link in the line of privative humans to homo sapiens?

I know, it does not say this in the Bible (in so many words) because who back then would understand DNA etc. These advanced scientists were viewed as Gods.

JB





What do you base that belief on?



Personal research, common sense. There is plenty of evidence of the existence of an advanced civilization that lived on the earth many many years ago.

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Fri 04/18/08 10:17 PM



this is one of the most stupid questions i have ever read.


Why is it a stupid question? Were or were there not other people on the earth?

JB


Nope, Adam and Eve were the first.


I fail to believe that. laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

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Fri 04/18/08 10:32 PM




this is one of the most stupid questions i have ever read.


Why is it a stupid question? Were or were there not other people on the earth?

JB


Nope, Adam and Eve were the first.


I fail to believe that. laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh


Jeannie....like Spider said...Adam and Eve were the first.
Read Genesis again.
flowerforyou

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Fri 04/18/08 10:40 PM





this is one of the most stupid questions i have ever read.


Why is it a stupid question? Were or were there not other people on the earth?

JB


Nope, Adam and Eve were the first.


I fail to believe that. laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh


Jeannie....like Spider said...Adam and Eve were the first.
Read Genesis again.
flowerforyou


In order for reading Genesis again to offer any type of "Proof" one would have to believe that the bible was 100% accurate. I don't think that JB reading it again would do much to sway her stance

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Fri 04/18/08 11:59 PM
Edited by wouldee on Sat 04/19/08 12:00 AM
yup.

it is ludicrous, Peccy.

then Christ's blood would be monkey blood and not so unique. interesting thought.

Now let's find the test tube equivalence that will engender some moral equivalence.

By now, we should be able to muster the creativity to interbreed successfully, if Cain did it.

I find it harder to accept and much more intriguing that the Book of Genesis says angels interbred with humans.

But then, that means one must accept that angels interfere or intervene in mankind too.

Too many cans of worms to leave that one out too.


But that is also the historical acceptance of premises about Jesus Christ as well; that the angels bear some culpability in the condition known as man.


hhmmmm...

flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile

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Sat 04/19/08 12:28 AM


I read this the other day, and I firmly believe that these people lived to be 100s of years old so that God could populate the earth. It doesn't tell us that Cain and Abel were young when all of this took place, and it doesn't give us the population of Nod.


Adam for one......lived to be 800 years old.flowerforyou


amazing, considering living to 100 was nearly unheard of until less than 100 years ago


this is one of the most stupid questions i have ever read.


why not add something more constructive to the discussion?

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Sat 04/19/08 01:10 AM

In the Bible it says the world was void of life until Adam & Eve were created and that they were the first two people on the planet.

2. It then says that Adam & Eve had two children who were called Kane & Able.

3. This means that there where now four people on the planet, right?

4. Then it says that Kane & Able took wives.

5. But if there were only four people on the planet? Were did these two women come from that Kane & Able married?? Maybe they married monkeys.
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Sat 04/19/08 01:11 AM


this is one of the most stupid questions i have ever read.


Why is it a stupid question? Were or were there not other people on the earth?

JB
flowerforyou there were others.flowerforyou

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Sat 04/19/08 01:16 AM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Sat 04/19/08 01:16 AM
flowerforyou If you believe the Genesis myth then there were angels and there were other people.flowerforyou Angels can concieve with humans (according to mythology).flowerforyou If there were angels or other people it neither proves nor disproves anything.flowerforyou It changes nothing.flowerforyou Thats assuming it isnt ALL just mythology.flowerforyou

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Sat 04/19/08 01:20 AM
flowerforyou What about the other cultures of the world and their creation myths?flowerforyou Why does it have to just be Adam & Eve? flowerforyou Why does it have to be just 2 people?flowerforyou There are many nations with other creation myths. flowerforyou

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Sat 04/19/08 09:40 AM

Personal research, common sense. There is plenty of evidence of the existence of an advanced civilization that lived on the earth many many years ago.



What research? What historical documents?

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Sat 04/19/08 12:48 PM


Personal research, common sense. There is plenty of evidence of the existence of an advanced civilization that lived on the earth many many years ago.



What research? What historical documents?


I don't have time to dig into the bowels of my research or explain how I arrived at my opinion. Just consider it my opinion and let it go at that. I am not starting a religion and I don't want any converts.
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