Topic: for the men only
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Fri 04/04/08 04:04 PM
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Fri 04/04/08 04:04 PM
Edited by hikerchick on Fri 04/04/08 04:05 PM

ty wiley and winx...my voices tell me you are good people laugh

ok...but seriously though (like that will happen lol) is it more of the issue of the person being born a different sex or the fact that they lied????

see??? i can be serious bigsmile


I think the lie is a big problem but telling the truth is problematic for people in that situation. They really are in a lose-lose position.

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Fri 04/04/08 04:04 PM
Edited by hikerchick on Fri 04/04/08 04:05 PM
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izzie's photo
Fri 04/04/08 04:05 PM


ok so you have been dating this girl for a while now and you have fallen in love with her,she tells you to come over cause she needs to tell you something.You get there and she takes a deep breath and says,"i was born as a man."How would you react? and would you still love her/him/it?


Would they not still be a person? Honestly, I couldn't give a definite answer on this unless I was in that situation. It would depend on how long I'd known them, how I felt about them, among a myriad of other things. It wouldn't be a straight yes/no. I'm just not wired that way.
wiley.. i was born a man...
:wink:

wiley's photo
Fri 04/04/08 04:05 PM
I guess I missed the part in the OP where they out and out lied. If it were me, I wouldn't be comfortable relaying that kind of information to somebody unless I trusted them with it. Like I said, it would depend on how long I knew them, how well I knew them, how I felt about them, etc.

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Fri 04/04/08 04:06 PM


ty wiley and winx...my voices tell me you are good people laugh

ok...but seriously though (like that will happen lol) is it more of the issue of the person being born a different sex or the fact that they lied????

see??? i can be serious bigsmile


I think the lie is a big problem but telling the truth is problematic for people in that situation. They really are in a lose-lose situation.


true. i know my problem would be the lie. if i knew the truth then i could make the choice. but then again...i've had several lie to me about different things so...dunnolaugh

wiley's photo
Fri 04/04/08 04:07 PM



ok so you have been dating this girl for a while now and you have fallen in love with her,she tells you to come over cause she needs to tell you something.You get there and she takes a deep breath and says,"i was born as a man."How would you react? and would you still love her/him/it?


Would they not still be a person? Honestly, I couldn't give a definite answer on this unless I was in that situation. It would depend on how long I'd known them, how I felt about them, among a myriad of other things. It wouldn't be a straight yes/no. I'm just not wired that way.
wiley.. i was born a man...
:wink:


Since I don't really know you, I'd be a little surprised, (considering you've had 4 kids, didn't think that was possible with someone transgender) but I wouldn't be crushed.

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 04/04/08 04:07 PM

I guess I missed the part in the OP where they out and out lied. If it were me, I wouldn't be comfortable relaying that kind of information to somebody unless I trusted them with it. Like I said, it would depend on how long I knew them, how well I knew them, how I felt about them, etc.


ok...i guess some feel it's lying by omission or deceiving etc. i understand about the trust issue on both sides though

Winx's photo
Fri 04/04/08 04:09 PM

ty wiley and winx...my voices tell me you are good people laugh

ok...but seriously though (like that will happen lol) is it more of the issue of the person being born a different sex or the fact that they lied????

see??? i can be serious bigsmile


Your serious side is good too.:smile:

That is a lie. But...why would someone tell that information before they trusted them? That person has been through alot of hurt, I'm sure.

I would like to say that being a different sex than you are born, shouldn't matter. But..I can't say 110% for sure because I haven't been in that situation.

Silntstrnger's photo
Fri 04/04/08 04:10 PM
how can u have sex with someone and not know if ur male or female and the fact is u didnt fall with him but the person he pretended to be..he wasnt honest and the trust is now broken

astrosfan's photo
Fri 04/04/08 04:10 PM


ok so you have been dating this girl for a while now and you have fallen in love with her,she tells you to come over cause she needs to tell you something.You get there and she takes a deep breath and says,"i was born as a man."How would you react? and would you still love her/him/it?


ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm nooooooooooooooooooooosick laugh


aww coco is that a friend in the pic w/ u? ? or or some lucky guy ???????... you look happy good to see!!!

wiley's photo
Fri 04/04/08 04:10 PM
I actually knew and was friends with someone who was born with both organs for a long time. I started to like them but they decided they didn't want to be a girl. That was a fun experience on both sides. ohwell

southern_bee's photo
Fri 04/04/08 04:12 PM
if they werent honest with you with a major thing like that what else could they lie to you about

antisteroidsx's photo
Fri 04/04/08 04:13 PM
sick I COULD LOVE HER HEART
BUT FOR ME THE "RELATIONS"PART
WOULD BE TO STRANGE

SO IN THE LONG RUN I GUES IT WOULD MATTER

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 04/04/08 04:14 PM

I actually knew and was friends with someone who was born with both organs for a long time. I started to like them but they decided they didn't want to be a girl. That was a fun experience on both sides. ohwell


oh in the dance world...i have friends that are cross dressers, transvestites, you name it. i guess i don't understand about not telling up front because they are very open about it. but i guess it's like someone that could lie about how many kids they have when you first start dating...you are told they have 2 then found out later that he has 3 more out there. that alone wouldn't bother me...it would be lying upfront or by omission or trying to deceive no matter how hard it is. or maybe for the same reason some lie about what they look like here or who they are etc.

ok....i'll stop babbling now :wink:

coco56's photo
Fri 04/04/08 04:14 PM



ok so you have been dating this girl for a while now and you have fallen in love with her,she tells you to come over cause she needs to tell you something.You get there and she takes a deep breath and says,"i was born as a man."How would you react? and would you still love her/him/it?


ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm nooooooooooooooooooooosick laugh


aww coco is that a friend in the pic w/ u? ? or or some lucky guy ???????... you look happy good to see!!!


yes he is my boyfriend thanks bigsmile

wiley's photo
Fri 04/04/08 04:15 PM


I actually knew and was friends with someone who was born with both organs for a long time. I started to like them but they decided they didn't want to be a girl. That was a fun experience on both sides. ohwell


oh in the dance world...i have friends that are cross dressers, transvestites, you name it. i guess i don't understand about not telling up front because they are very open about it. but i guess it's like someone that could lie about how many kids they have when you first start dating...you are told they have 2 then found out later that he has 3 more out there. that alone wouldn't bother me...it would be lying upfront or by omission or trying to deceive no matter how hard it is. or maybe for the same reason some lie about what they look like here or who they are etc.

ok....i'll stop babbling now :wink:


Well in his case, he wanted to be a boy, his parents wanted him to be a girl. I understood the not telling anyone because frankly it wasn't anybody's business.

Cheddar_2's photo
Fri 04/04/08 04:16 PM

wiley.. i was born a man...
:wink:


If you're a man, I'm the Queen of Spain. Hubba.

Back to matters at hand. Honesty is a problem when being up-front about that kinda thing means a look of absolute disgust on one hand, and a brutal ass-whuppin' on the other hand.

Lotsa factors involved here. Affection, obviously. Religion and/or personal moral outlook on homosexuality. Desire for biological offspring. How good the surgery on them was, etc.

My personal POV is that I'd be stunned and probably a lot disappointed...but be gentle in telling them No or "I need to think about this". From what I recall of Psych 101, transgendered folks tend to have a high suicide rate. Who'd have thought that being a pariah from every single culture in the world for something (IMO) you can't control would make people kill themselves.

Tread carefully.

ominousman26's photo
Fri 04/04/08 04:18 PM
there lying to the same and oppostie sex...and thats just wrongfrown

izzie's photo
Fri 04/04/08 04:19 PM
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and i thought you loved me..
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teeheehee..
im teazin.
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ok so you have been dating this girl for a while now and you have fallen in love with her,she tells you to come over cause she needs to tell you something.You get there and she takes a deep breath and says,"i was born as a man."How would you react? and would you still love her/him/it?


Would they not still be a person? Honestly, I couldn't give a definite answer on this unless I was in that situation. It would depend on how long I'd known them, how I felt about them, among a myriad of other things. It wouldn't be a straight yes/no. I'm just not wired that way.
wiley.. i was born a man...
:wink:


Since I don't really know you, I'd be a little surprised, (considering you've had 4 kids, didn't think that was possible with someone transgender) but I wouldn't be crushed.