Topic: for the men only
yellowrose10's photo
Fri 04/04/08 04:20 PM



I actually knew and was friends with someone who was born with both organs for a long time. I started to like them but they decided they didn't want to be a girl. That was a fun experience on both sides. ohwell


oh in the dance world...i have friends that are cross dressers, transvestites, you name it. i guess i don't understand about not telling up front because they are very open about it. but i guess it's like someone that could lie about how many kids they have when you first start dating...you are told they have 2 then found out later that he has 3 more out there. that alone wouldn't bother me...it would be lying upfront or by omission or trying to deceive no matter how hard it is. or maybe for the same reason some lie about what they look like here or who they are etc.

ok....i'll stop babbling now :wink:


Well in his case, he wanted to be a boy, his parents wanted him to be a girl. I understood the not telling anyone because frankly it wasn't anybody's business.


in that case...i don't believe there is a right or wrong in what sex they are. are they not technically both?

Jill298's photo
Fri 04/04/08 04:28 PM
I would leave... and prob never talk to him/her again. He/she lied to me. I deserve to make the choice of whether or not I want to be in a relationship like that. Lying to me about it removes my ability to choose... therefore, I would leave

wiley's photo
Fri 04/04/08 04:28 PM




I actually knew and was friends with someone who was born with both organs for a long time. I started to like them but they decided they didn't want to be a girl. That was a fun experience on both sides. ohwell


oh in the dance world...i have friends that are cross dressers, transvestites, you name it. i guess i don't understand about not telling up front because they are very open about it. but i guess it's like someone that could lie about how many kids they have when you first start dating...you are told they have 2 then found out later that he has 3 more out there. that alone wouldn't bother me...it would be lying upfront or by omission or trying to deceive no matter how hard it is. or maybe for the same reason some lie about what they look like here or who they are etc.

ok....i'll stop babbling now :wink:


Well in his case, he wanted to be a boy, his parents wanted him to be a girl. I understood the not telling anyone because frankly it wasn't anybody's business.


in that case...i don't believe there is a right or wrong in what sex they are. are they not technically both?


Yes.

wiley's photo
Fri 04/04/08 04:30 PM

I would leave... and prob never talk to him/her again. He/she lied to me. I deserve to make the choice of whether or not I want to be in a relationship like that. Lying to me about it removes my ability to choose... therefore, I would leave


I don't know. From the OP this is after just dating for awhile. It wasn't even really clear if this would be dating exclusively at that point. It would be a different story if you found out after you'd been married to this person and they told you. I wouldn't expect something like that after a few dates.

Winx's photo
Fri 04/04/08 04:30 PM

sick I COULD LOVE HER HEART
BUT FOR ME THE "RELATIONS"PART
WOULD BE TO STRANGE

SO IN THE LONG RUN I GUES IT WOULD MATTER



But...he is a female now. 100% female but can't have children.

Jill298's photo
Fri 04/04/08 04:33 PM


I would leave... and prob never talk to him/her again. He/she lied to me. I deserve to make the choice of whether or not I want to be in a relationship like that. Lying to me about it removes my ability to choose... therefore, I would leave


I don't know. From the OP this is after just dating for awhile. It wasn't even really clear if this would be dating exclusively at that point. It would be a different story if you found out after you'd been married to this person and they told you. I wouldn't expect something like that after a few dates.
if I didnt meet you in gay bar or setting and you present yourself as a man to me, and take me out on dates as man, I expect you to be a man. You should be upfront about this. Also, the situation said you already fell in love, which is very unlikely after just a few dates

ominousman26's photo
Fri 04/04/08 04:35 PM



I would leave... and prob never talk to him/her again. He/she lied to me. I deserve to make the choice of whether or not I want to be in a relationship like that. Lying to me about it removes my ability to choose... therefore, I would leave


I don't know. From the OP this is after just dating for awhile. It wasn't even really clear if this would be dating exclusively at that point. It would be a different story if you found out after you'd been married to this person and they told you. I wouldn't expect something like that after a few dates.
if I didnt meet you in gay bar or setting and you present yourself as a man to me, and take me out on dates as man, I expect you to be a man. You should be upfront about this. Also, the situation said you already fell in love, which is very unlikely after just a few dates
i never put just a few date`s i said a while now,like 2 to 3 months

no photo
Fri 04/04/08 04:36 PM

ok so you have been dating this girl for a while now and you have fallen in love with her,she tells you to come over cause she needs to tell you something.You get there and she takes a deep breath and says,"i was born as a man."How would you react? and would you still love her/him/it?


Is he/she pre-op or post-op?

laugh

wiley's photo
Fri 04/04/08 04:37 PM



I would leave... and prob never talk to him/her again. He/she lied to me. I deserve to make the choice of whether or not I want to be in a relationship like that. Lying to me about it removes my ability to choose... therefore, I would leave


I don't know. From the OP this is after just dating for awhile. It wasn't even really clear if this would be dating exclusively at that point. It would be a different story if you found out after you'd been married to this person and they told you. I wouldn't expect something like that after a few dates.
if I didnt meet you in gay bar or setting and you present yourself as a man to me, and take me out on dates as man, I expect you to be a man. You should be upfront about this. Also, the situation said you already fell in love, which is very unlikely after just a few dates


Fair enough. Simply voicing my opinion. No need to get bent out of shape.

wiley's photo
Fri 04/04/08 04:38 PM

i never put just a few date`s i said a while now,like 2 to 3 months


a while now can mean pretty much anything. For me a while now could be a few weeks. Just saying.

Jill298's photo
Fri 04/04/08 04:39 PM




I would leave... and prob never talk to him/her again. He/she lied to me. I deserve to make the choice of whether or not I want to be in a relationship like that. Lying to me about it removes my ability to choose... therefore, I would leave


I don't know. From the OP this is after just dating for awhile. It wasn't even really clear if this would be dating exclusively at that point. It would be a different story if you found out after you'd been married to this person and they told you. I wouldn't expect something like that after a few dates.
if I didnt meet you in gay bar or setting and you present yourself as a man to me, and take me out on dates as man, I expect you to be a man. You should be upfront about this. Also, the situation said you already fell in love, which is very unlikely after just a few dates


Fair enough. Simply voicing my opinion. No need to get bent out of shape.
awww wiley Im not bent out of shape... sorry it came across that wayflowerforyou

wiley's photo
Fri 04/04/08 04:42 PM





I would leave... and prob never talk to him/her again. He/she lied to me. I deserve to make the choice of whether or not I want to be in a relationship like that. Lying to me about it removes my ability to choose... therefore, I would leave


I don't know. From the OP this is after just dating for awhile. It wasn't even really clear if this would be dating exclusively at that point. It would be a different story if you found out after you'd been married to this person and they told you. I wouldn't expect something like that after a few dates.
if I didnt meet you in gay bar or setting and you present yourself as a man to me, and take me out on dates as man, I expect you to be a man. You should be upfront about this. Also, the situation said you already fell in love, which is very unlikely after just a few dates


Fair enough. Simply voicing my opinion. No need to get bent out of shape.
awww wiley Im not bent out of shape... sorry it came across that wayflowerforyou


It's ok. Sometimes it's just hard to read emotion from just a few words on a screen. flowerforyou

hikerchick's photo
Fri 04/04/08 04:48 PM
I am not sure this is lying or just not telling you until you need to know. Until you get really serious with a person, their past is really none of your business.

wiley's photo
Fri 04/04/08 04:51 PM

I am not sure this is lying or just not telling you until you need to know. Until you get really serious with a person, their past is really none of your business.


Exactly. Telling someone something like this would involve a lot of trust on their part.

Jill298's photo
Fri 04/04/08 04:53 PM

I am not sure this is lying or just not telling you until you need to know. Until you get really serious with a person, their past is really none of your business.
I agree with you for the most part. Its not like I go around telling my life history to people but whether or not you are the gender I assume you are, is pretty friggin important to me.

Brandon24721's photo
Fri 04/04/08 04:55 PM
did he/she have a wiener? did u kiss her? lol

no photo
Fri 04/04/08 04:57 PM

I would leave... and prob never talk to him/her again. He/she lied to me. I deserve to make the choice of whether or not I want to be in a relationship like that. Lying to me about it removes my ability to choose... therefore, I would leave



Thank you!My thoughts Also!
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hikerchick's photo
Fri 04/04/08 04:58 PM


I am not sure this is lying or just not telling you until you need to know. Until you get really serious with a person, their past is really none of your business.
I agree with you for the most part. Its not like I go around telling my life history to people but whether or not you are the gender I assume you are, is pretty friggin important to me.


Oh Jill, you're just so shallow! laugh

UnclePorky's photo
Fri 04/04/08 05:01 PM
my feet would be running as fast as they could noway noway gomad mad mad

Jill298's photo
Fri 04/04/08 05:01 PM



I am not sure this is lying or just not telling you until you need to know. Until you get really serious with a person, their past is really none of your business.
I agree with you for the most part. Its not like I go around telling my life history to people but whether or not you are the gender I assume you are, is pretty friggin important to me.


Oh Jill, you're just so shallow! laugh
laugh laugh laugh I know right. You present yourself as a straight man and thats what I expect you to be... picky picky