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The mentally ill are the most under diagnosed and under treated people in this country. Mentally ill people do not know they have problems so they attempt to live normal lives but are unable. If we could identify, diagnose and treat these people the welfare system and other systems would have great relief. This is proven fact. So dismiss the mentally ill as most do but the systems of help will see no relief from this outlook. Would like to see your proof this is a proven fact. And I'd like to point out no one is dismissing the mentally ill. We are simply disagreeing that the women in the story is obviously mentally ill because she had 12 kids. Are you aware you are arguing with yourself? Really.... I am not arguing at all. Pointing out facts as I know them from working as a welfare casemanger and working with these clients. |
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now lilth that is a silly thing to say no one without knowing this particular person can say this person is statistically speaking tho it is a high possibility that such is the issue i did a search search link is listed plenty of aticles if you really want tho see them Adj... I am not the one saying she is mentally ill. I'm saying she is not "obviously" mentally ill, as the poster in question is (to whom I am referring). Is is NOT a high probability that is "such the issue". Reading articles won't educate you. Sorry. I have no need for them. |
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Tue 04/01/08 09:58 AM
I agree with most of this post. Don't think I dismiss mental illness. If someone is on assistance it needs to be addressed before they have 12 kids. Actually I am sure she is mentally ill. I would die of shame if I were her! I am blessed to live with my sisters family so I can help her and the family out and make it easier for them. My sister can't afford her meds and I would love to go to work even if it's just to pay for her meds. I know first hand what the state allows. My sister is bed ridden and had to fight tooth and nail to even get any help when I have seen...first hand...people who simply don't want to work no matter what they receive. no this isn't everyone...but it happens. My aunt was on welfare in CO and part of their program was to train people. after she got training in computer technician and it was time for her to work....she decided she didn't want to do that...and went to another state for welfare. I KNOW it happens. does she have a mental illness because she doesn't want to work? couldn't we say everyone n the world has a mental illness about something? not everyone with a mental illness says admits to it, unless they have help or reaching out for help. at that point part of it is not not use a mental illness as a crutch. Unless you are SERIOUSLY ill...it shouldn't be an excuse The mentally ill are the most under diagnosed and under treated people in this country. Mentally ill people do not know they have problems so they attempt to live normal lives but are unable. If we could identify, diagnose and treat these people the welfare system and other systems would have great relief. This is proven fact. So dismiss the mentally ill as most do but the systems of help will see no relief from this outlook. Sorry I lack computer skills I have been working my whole life and sacrificed college so my kid could go & hold her head high because she was not raised on welfare. I know my typing is bad too. The irony is my daughtr is an editor for a major paper. I wonder what her 12 kids will grow up to be? |
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http://www.corrupt.org/transcendence/women/articles/promiscuity/
Promiscuity spreads mental illness as well as diesease. I found it on the internet, so it must be true. 
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now lilth that is a silly thing to say no one without knowing this particular person can say this person is statistically speaking tho it is a high possibility that such is the issue i did a search search link is listed plenty of aticles if you really want tho see them Adj... I am not the one saying she is mentally ill. I'm saying she is not "obviously" mentally ill, as the poster in question is (to whom I am referring). Is is NOT a high probability that is "such the issue". Reading articles won't educate you. Sorry. I have no need for them. I would prefer some peer reviewed scientific research myself, but meh. |
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I am not arguing at all. Pointing out facts as I know them from working as a welfare casemanger and working with these clients. As am I. If you read my prior post... I did the same job. I worked with them too. And you are not only arguing, you are making outlandish assumptions and foundations based on your own opinions. |
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actually if one is working or able to work then they are not eligible for disability regardless of what is wrong with them that is more than likely why it takes years to get approved if you survive the time frame without working then you may get approved they must figure if you do not work instead you are disabled in one way or another my sister was on a morphine drip and had a permanent port in her for IVs. she was always in the hospital. it was a tooth and nail fight that took years You can be severely disabled from a stroke and apply for Social Security Disability. But..you will be denied it the first time you apply. It is automatic. Then you appeal it. That seems to be standard procedure. it went on for years to the point they had to take it to court |
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I am blessed to live with my sisters family so I can help her and the family out and make it easier for them. My sister can't afford her meds and I would love to go to work even if it's just to pay for her meds. I know first hand what the state allows. My sister is bed ridden and had to fight tooth and nail to even get any help when I have seen...first hand...people who simply don't want to work no matter what they receive. no this isn't everyone...but it happens. My aunt was on welfare in CO and part of their program was to train people. after she got training in computer technician and it was time for her to work....she decided she didn't want to do that...and went to another state for welfare. I KNOW it happens. does she have a mental illness because she doesn't want to work? couldn't we say everyone n the world has a mental illness about something? not everyone with a mental illness says admits to it, unless they have help or reaching out for help. at that point part of it is not not use a mental illness as a crutch. Unless you are SERIOUSLY ill...it shouldn't be an excuse The mentally ill are the most under diagnosed and under treated people in this country. Mentally ill people do not know they have problems so they attempt to live normal lives but are unable. If we could identify, diagnose and treat these people the welfare system and other systems would have great relief. This is proven fact. So dismiss the mentally ill as most do but the systems of help will see no relief from this outlook. don't assume I am dismissing anything. I know about mental illness. you have NO idea about my life or anything I know from 1st hand experience |
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I am not arguing at all. Pointing out facts as I know them from working as a welfare casemanger and working with these clients. As am I. If you read my prior post... I did the same job. I worked with them too. And you are not only arguing, you are making outlandish assumptions and foundations based on your own opinions. My opinion is based on factual information. Is yours? |
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She says she made some bad choices like partying drinking yet it is against her religious values to use contraception. that was in the OP's post. She was mentally aware enough to know she made bad choices. All addicts say this. I would have to assess her to be sure but she has mental health issues. It is obvious. but now you say they don't realize it? And NO not ALL addicts say this. most say this when they are reaching out for help with the illness or after treatment |
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I am not arguing at all. Pointing out facts as I know them from working as a welfare casemanger and working with these clients. As am I. If you read my prior post... I did the same job. I worked with them too. And you are not only arguing, you are making outlandish assumptions and foundations based on your own opinions. My opinion is based on factual information. Is yours? Yes. Are you not reading any of my posts? |
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http://bipolarceo.wordpress.com/2007/10/15/sexual-promiscuity/
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http://bipolarceo.wordpress.com/2007/10/15/sexual-promiscuity/ Dude this is a blog. Come on. |
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I am not arguing at all. Pointing out facts as I know them from working as a welfare casemanger and working with these clients. As am I. If you read my prior post... I did the same job. I worked with them too. And you are not only arguing, you are making outlandish assumptions and foundations based on your own opinions. My opinion is based on factual information. Is yours? Your other opinions aren't factual information. No matter how much you think they are. |
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I am not arguing at all. Pointing out facts as I know them from working as a welfare casemanger and working with these clients. As am I. If you read my prior post... I did the same job. I worked with them too. And you are not only arguing, you are making outlandish assumptions and foundations based on your own opinions. My opinion is based on factual information. Is yours? Yes. Are you not reading any of my posts? Sorry missed the factual information. Just conjecture of laziness which is also a sign of mental illness if you look it up. But you have the right to your opinion however unhelpful it may be. |
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why is it today everytime someone does something they have some kind of a mental illness, or we have to blame there parents.
Do you think maybe for once someone can take charge of there own life and say I messed it up all by myself. its simple I go shoot someone and they die it is murder. no wait i have 32 outs to get me off the hook from blaming my parent to the nuns that wacked me in school if that doesn't work let me say that i was mentally unstable cause my dog bit me yesterday Oh wait that won't work I can get 32 doctors to march across the stand and say the allergy medicine I was taking made me that way what the heck call it straight she did what she did you want to give her a crutch to do it again or say step up now and take charge |
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She can't exactly be lazy with all those kids & still has the energy for sex!
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I am not arguing at all. Pointing out facts as I know them from working as a welfare casemanger and working with these clients. As am I. If you read my prior post... I did the same job. I worked with them too. And you are not only arguing, you are making outlandish assumptions and foundations based on your own opinions. My opinion is based on factual information. Is yours? Your other opinions aren't factual information. No matter how much you think they are. I was trained to identify mental illness so that is about as factual as it gets but look it up, it is there for all to read. |
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why is one person's "helpful" information any less than someone elses? I know the examples I have mentioned...FIRST HAND. lilth is just as qualified as you are for her insight...even if it isn't the same as yours
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She can't exactly be lazy with all those kids & still has the energy for sex!
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