Abra... Your words on this?



Quantum science is based purely upon theory, is it not... unobservable... at this point in time?


*******creative walks over with a 5th of Cuervo Gold in one hand and some Oatmeal Raisin cookies in the other.... grabs Di and pulls her into the sandbox... C'mon Di, let's go play!!!*******

I have been traveling the Internet for over ten years and I have developed my own ways to critique valid websites and bullcrap.

I still look at a lot of it, even the bullcrap, even the propaganda.

I look for ideas, and agenda. I look at the big picture. I am not taken in by so-called "authorities." I still look for agenda.

98% of it is crap put there to distract people.

But ultimately I decide what 'reads' are valid for me to spend any time on. ~~~All information is valid to some extent. It reveals agendas and perceptions.

What others who may be "in authority" consider to be valid or not does not influence what I choose to be valid. I have found that I am the final authority on that. This may seem strange to some people, but I have lost faith in "authorities." There are too many lies afoot. Too much propaganda. Too many authorities who lie.

So alas, I am on my own in deciding what to consider.

JB

Scientific theory is not to be scoffed at. It is not an unsupported belief system. There are many scientific theories. Theory of evolution, theory of relativity etc.

just as an observation of "one", man has found a clever invention that can reduce matter to a hazardous vaporization that is inherently a work to observe that things made are not always "one" with themselves through intervention with the destruction and mutation of "one".

Would that man were to accept that all things are one, there would also exist the understanding that they are not, by virtue of the respect shown for the present state of creations' manifestations.

Human intervention in the natural disposition of things created also displays that divine intervention exists by virtue of cause and effect and 'if one thing is true, then the opposite is true as an observable polarity'.

We have evidence that man will corrupt the natural order of matter, to contemplate its' incorruptibility, to some degree.
But it is how such knowledge is used by man that suggests that there had better be some divine intervention from without to temper man's tampering with things from which he is constructed, physically speaking.

The funny thing about carbon is that it burns.
The funny thing about oxygen is that it is volatile in dense quanities. As is hydrogen. And that is water.

But water puts out a fire, not fuel it. and carbon will rest.

Man will never rest when left to his own devices.

Man is intent upon mans' own destruction, if history teachers us anything.

And it is not the poor of this world that purpose such things, but the rich and advantaged and the priveleged that LUST FOR MORE THAN THAT WHICH THEY HAVE ALREADY ACQUIRED.

Perhaps the poor of this world ought to lead it.
Perhaps the meek ought to be heeded.
Perhaps, that which is one is violence.

Perhaps.

As long as one holds firmly to what they think they know, one will not truly consider that which differs.

Where one has no doubt in belief structure, one has no ability to effectively measure that which may contradict such belief. In fact, the consideration of opposing notions and/or concepts will be internally framed in such a way as to completely dismiss them, while bolstering the previous' acceptance accordingly.

EDIT:

JB, I woulda grabbed you too... but it seems if alchohol is added to this mix between you and Di, it may result in throwing sand into each others eyes... 'Sides... I do not want in the middle of that one!

CS

Such rigidity isn't observable in that regard.
Prejudices are neglectful of further influence.
Prejudices can be emeliorated. Granted, from within, but studied and contemplated by influences from without.

Where belief is suspended is in it's lack of revealed knowledge.

Upon revelation of knowledge not previously observed, belief is suspended and understanding advanced.

Belief is only an inherent building block of wisdom; a means to an end, if you will.

But then, that is also what you are saying and I am always hopeful that man will pursue a greater charge than that which beiles his own credibiltiy as master of his domain.

peace





EDIT: My response is to your post without the caveat of your own edit which may adversely affect the view of my own response by others and embroil me in something new and unintended. I shall not touch the ladies' exchange. It is best for me to stay out of that one.

wouldee:

There are certain things which cannot be true, based upon our own understanding of that is. Yes.

If one mis-understands a concept, then that concept will have a value placed upon it which is based upon something else. However, the one who has misunderstood may not know of such. Therefore, it is nothing more than a false truth.

yup
truth is truth until it is not.

Above all else, it could be said that God has a sense of humor.



How's that for a wall?

I totally agree with this. That is why I hold my considerations loosely.

I still consider the possibilities of this universe having sentient non-human beings who may rule as "deities" and desire worship from their underlings, although I still would not accept their authority over me any more than anyone else's.

I respect those who earn it, not because they can destroy me in anger.

The poor are usually too busy trying to survive, they have little time to think or create anything. They lust after things and they convince themselves they can never have them and in doing so they perpetuate their own poverty.

If the poor were leaders, they would not be poor.
The meek are too meek to speak or act.

The universe is abundant. The poor need inspiration but they live in desperation. That is why the poor get poorer and the rich get richer. Poor is a state of mind that says "I can't because..." Rich is a state of mind that says, "Anything is possible..."

JB

My first X-husband is very intelligent. (been married twice) He is a member of all three high I Q clubs. I once asked him, "If you are so smart, why aren't you rich?" He took me seriously. He began working on that. He is now very well off. ~~Probably only a millionaire, but he is doing quite well. Yet he is unethical in his business practices sometimes. I don't understand that. I suspect he might loose everything one day and end up alone and broke, but only time will tell. I hope that doesn't happen to him.

But then again you can know what you know....because it was shown and you no longer can deny or feel the need to search......You can search and search and then when it is shown you either say ok......or you keep searching.

And I believe because it was shown, so no doubt, but this doesn't mean that I can't accept what others are both searching for or their beiefs.....If it works for them then that's all that matters.

I can't even say that I am "searching." I am learning and I intend to continue to follow my interests, and when information comes to me, I consider it.

Life is not boring. I am an artist and into metaphysics simply because it is something an artist ponders.... being and knowing.

JB

humble apologies then jeannie....and yes learning should happen from the time were born to the day we die....

Whatever it is that is in very artistic and creative people, it can be a dangerous place to live in, if there is no goal and/or direction...

That is said based upon my own personal experience... as an artist... I am very grateful for the capabilities which have been bestowed upon myself...

My largest inner-personal concern at the moment is my own self-deprocation...

Self-sabotage...

Make a decision... and make it work...

The word ‘theory’ in science is probably the most abused and misused word around.

For example “String Theory” has absolutely no basis in science at all. None. It’s entirely a mathematical construct that could very well be completely wrong. It seriously should be called “String Guess”

Quantum ‘theory’ on the other hand is also not really a ‘theory’ but more of an observation. Quantum ‘theory’ is how the world actually behaves. In fact, when you get right down to it, there is no ‘theory’ that explains quantum behavior. At least not in the sense of why it behaves the way it does.

However, having said all of that, there is something the world is about to become enlighten to (should I ever actually publish my book )

You see, science is almost entirely dependent upon mathematics. Even when observations are obvious, many times the mathematical explanations are what end up becoming ‘science’.

Well, if modern mathematics is wrong (and it is) then all of science is in a state of limbo.

There were many wrong turns made during the course of human development of mathematics. I started writing a book on where those wrong turns were made, why they were made, and the directions that we should have gone.

In the end, it won’t change the results of quantum mechanics. But it will shed some light on the reason why things are the way they are.

In the meantime, quantum mechanics is the true nature of the universe. It’s not just a ‘theory’. It is born out of observation. Not the other way around.

Well write already .... How long are you gonna make me wait?

I agree. Making decisions is the single most important responsibility you have to yourself. Self sabotage the biggest enemy we face. Goals are important.

For a creative person, they must decide what they want to create, and they must learn everything they can about the creative process and how it works.

In a holographic universe there are no limits to the extent to which we can alter the fabric of reality.

An astonishing model called the holographic principle holds that the universe is like a hologram: just as a trick of light allows a fully three-dimensional image to be recorded on a flat piece of film, our seemingly three-dimensional universe could be completely equivalent to alternative quantum fields and physical laws "painted" on a distant, vast surface.

Combining this idea with the Law of Attraction, I suspect can unlock a method of creative manifestation, that when mastered, is more powerful than any other force.

"Imagination rules the world."

JB

hmmmm that sounds familiar ....

Perhaps is us trying to fit our creative world within the confines of the practical one ...

...oooohhhh I so dislike practical ....