Abra, I'm so very happy you are feeling better.

Learning to swim was the greatest of all challenges in my childhood. I had an extreme phobia of not being able to breathe. I do swim, now, but I still cannot sleep with anything, even a sheet coving my face.

I developed asthma in my early thirties, I had suffered attacks that made me wonder how my severely asthmatic child ever survived.

I hope the cause of your breathlessnes has been resolved and I wish you better health each day.

AND I LOVE YOUR POEMS and I PROMISE I would buy your book, if you will allow for some very ignorant questions.

By the way, I would never try to convert anyone to my religion, only to the see the error of their own.

you all r smokin mary jane again.

Smokis Cannabis Habilis

Unsubstantiated personal reflections???

I could be completely wrong, but this is what I understand the intellect to be:

Intellect - the capacity of each individual to competently unlock, understand and use stored information.

a. (Knowledge and information are not the same thing.)

b. Facts are information accepted as true by the majority or by scientific observation (or by the laws of the defined environment or reality.)

"Fact" is a term used to describe a common accepted belief, backed up by acceptable proof.

My thoughts:

The sum total of all information is stored in the collective unconscious. All information and experience is stored there.

Intelligence: The ability to process information and learn from experience.

Knowledge: A body of information which has been accepted as true by a majority. (Similar to a fact, only it is a body of accepted facts.)

JB

Agreed... This construct(the removal of the worldy fingerprint) also falls apart when considering a completely different upbringing of a child. For myself, it holds true as a result of having been removed from that environment at an early age. Not all people have these same factors in their personal life.



Conditioned responses exist as a major behavioural factor in early development, no doubt. All of which one accepts as truth is reinforced and/or dismissed accordingly, based upon later acceptances which are further reinforced and/or dismissed... so on and so forth...

Thus, the importance of one's capability for discernment.




That's what I said...



Individual priority of need(want) changes with the growth of each person, I agree.



Agreed... That is why the beginning was..."Survival depends on...."



Not sure if we can replace the nature of our behaviours, those are deeply buried acceptances, at times unrecognizable through the blurring of life's further teachings. Perhaps the conscious adoption of a healthier thought practice could overcome some of those things, should they need to be?



Some are so deeply imbedded Di, everything that is witnissed in life is attributed to a part of it. The entire existence... one's self-value and purpose in life is to please this greater being which demands pleasing.

i'll take a goddess
of a hellish bed
whose bite will incite an eruption of red
she feeds off the fountain
of me in her core
dripping all over
her
until i'm no more

I have always said that NOTHING cannot "exist." That is according to how we define "something."

Original source did not exist as a "thing of any substance" it only existed as "I AM" awareness. An idea perhaps.

It did not need substance to know that it existed. It desired to be seen and acknowledged by others. It grew.

That is why I think it separated into many other units of awareness.

jb

Darned sex fiends...

Again JB...



Overlapping posts...

"Truth is information." (If I re-define a word it is because I have taken that line of thinking outside of a box and it needs to be re-defined.)

It is not my goal in life to explain scientifically any belief I may hold, or to offer my ideas to be accepted by anyone of critical acclaim.

I lack the knowledge to even attempt anything like that. I hold a sketch of an idea that is being worked into a whole only for my own benefit. I share it with people who see similar pictures, I adjust and change it when new information arises. That is really all I can do.




This is probably true, but I am no more stuck in the scientific mindset than I am stuck in the religious mindset. To a scientist, I speak fantasy, to an atheist, I seem to come off as a believer, to a believer I look like an atheist. I guess it all depends on where you are.




I do not want to believe anything except what might make sense or be true. I do not ignore what is most generally accepted. I just don't accept a thing just because it is "generally accepted." This is because many things have been generally accepted that were not true.




I have looked at a lot of information and I am sure most of it is faulty. But until science solves all of the big questions, I will continue to look at all information, not considered by them. All information is valid. Knowledge is like facts, it is either accepted as truth for various reasons, but that does not make it always true.



I conform when I feel it is necessary or beneficial, but most of the time I fail to conform.

JB

Blindfolded, backwards.

And that's just for starters.....

Ok... ok... ok...

I will go back to my sandbox.... and play some more...

Sexual fiends
with cannabis greens
cerebrally chomping on delusional dreams

Bite me!

Lick me!

Tongue me!

Gnaw!

I’ll suck the cheekbone of your jaw!

The preacher’s wife will stand in awe
at how we’ve broken gospel law

But Oh!!!,…

The ecstasy of carnal sin
the sound of blues from deep within
cum dance with me with naked skin
and pass that jug of gin!

Michael’s thread is evil-stained
by those who aren’t devoutly trained
their thirst for lust
has gone bust
and now it’s all unchained

See abra you can have your cake and eat it too.

By the way, I would never try to convert anyone to my religion, only to the see the error of their own. laugh laugh


redy: tisk tisk.....it's not nice to fool with others religions......

Well, of course I can. I'm a pantheist.

~~~

I’m the Icing and the Cake
and the heat it takes to bake

I’m the Alpha and Omega
and the tremors in a quake

I’m the Angels and Cherubs
and the venom in a snake

I’m the Hunk of Handsome Man
that causes women’s hearts to ache

I’m all of this and so much more
till I fall asleep, and then I snore

There are different types of memory. The type of memory determines where it is stored in the brain.

Some memories function without ever being brought in consciousness, in fact even when we try, we find the memory difficult ,at best, to bring into conscious thought. Most of these consist of procedures and they are called implicit memories. We don’t need to think about these to complete the procedure associated with its encoding. Example: tie your shoe. People who play the most intricate instrumental pieces, repeatedly, store that as implicit memory. They can play the piece to perfection but ask them to write the score!! Currently, evidence has suggested, these memories are stored in the cerebellum.

Short term memories are stored in the prefrontal and temporal lobes of the cortex. Short term memory is working memory; it’s what is being processed or consciously being considered from your perceptions at this moment. Unless committed to long term memory these will quickly fade.

Semantic and episodic memories are also stored in the prefrontal temporal lobes of the cortex but not in the same place. These memories are called declarative memories and they consist of general facts and personal experiences. In this case, facts equate to names and addresses, places, people, your grade school your third grade teacher, etc. All memories referencing you and your personal experiences are stored there together.

Memory that involves fear or phobias of objects seems to be concentrated in the amygdale.

Long Term Memory is stored in two places. New LTM is stored in the hippocampus. If the hippocampus is destroyed you will be unable to learn anything new. There is evidence that some LTM exist elsewhere, and may be accessed even if the hippocampus is damaged. In any case LTM is the permanently stored memory that we might term the intellect (though not scientifically).

I’m only going through all this to show you that the brain is not one giant think tank. Actually every time a long term memory is forged there is a physical change in a part of your brain that can be seen and mapped.

No, we do not have the ability to train another part of the brain to take over. Each part of the brain was created for specific purposes from a specific interaction of DNA and stem cells. We cannot WILL our brain to heal or change its functions.

All this is necessary for you to understand that science is not standing still and the material you choose to read and commit to long term memory (your intellect) should be chosen discriminately. Question it, compare it to others on the topic, look up the scientific words don’t accept because something supports a way of thinking you want to believe.



Science has been known in the past to interchange the words intellect and intelligence, and if you read philosophical material based on outdated scientific research, papers or studies you will be mislead.

Today science deals with intelligence; while the word intellect is used by philosophers and those who are not referring to science.

LTM does NOT include personal facts and general knowledge, it does not include fear or phobias, and it does not include implicit memory. It DOES include what you learn in school, what you “learn” and accept as fact from many other sources, so philosophically the intellect IS the sum totals of all that you “know” at any given moment.

Intelligence does not process; intelligence thinks, cognitively. But you are correct in that it uses information that is stored (through acquisition and experience) in the LTM (if we agree; we’ll just call it the intellect)

In these threads you have, no doubt, heard some philosophical rhetoric that discusses “deconstruction” of what we know. Memory is a process scientifically defined as an active system that receives information from the senses, organizes, alters it, stores it, and then retrieves it for the purpose of cognition.

Notice that memory is “altered” when it’s stored and each and every time it’s accessed it must be reconstructed from the various places the bits and pieces have been stored. Before it can be stored again, in intellect (LTM), it is altered and separated once again. So each time you bring a memory into consciousness it is not original and it is subject to many changes without your awareness. So the memories of things you believe are facts may not be as factual as you believe.

For this reason philosophers are big on ‘deconstructing’ what we think we know, deconstructing what we have learned. And they are correct. Our intellect (LTM) can not be trusted totally; this is yet another reason why it’s important when teaching and committing to memory information (learning), that we do our best not to put in garbage.

Now there is another point that you bring up something called “the collective unconscious”.

In terms of science and philosophy “collective”, when discussing any human quality, must include the entire group (the collective).

Carl Gustav Jung (1875-1961) picked up on the idea that, famous psychoanalyst Freud set forth, that thing called the unconscious mind. Jung disagreed with Freud and believed in a “collective unconscious”.

His theory was that we have universal memories that serve to guide us via something called an archetype. For example we all have a shadow or dark personality and this personality is culturally defined. In the west, most associate the dark personality to the devil but in this case the devil resides within as an unconscious collective memory. His theory included the possibility of several persona’s. A persona being the personality we show to the world. Science has not forged any evidence to support this theory (yet) or to my knowledge so if you read anything different - verify it.

JB – You have a whole lot of intellect and a whole lot of questions. If there is only one thing worthy enough to remember from this whole response, let it be

“Consider the source”.

Look it up again, compare it, dispute it find the opposing view. Start with what I’ve written here, I could be wrong – but don’t discount it just because your intellect is different than my LTM.

Awe Creative – and we were doing so well -



I understand what you’re saying but behavior can be changed, we change it ourselves. When one behavior ceases work for our gain, we devise a new one. We do something because it works for us. We may even ‘believe’ we are being slighted when our behavior is not rewarded as expected. This can degenerate into anger and hate and the new behavior may be ….???

But if we are taught how to shape our behaviors, our attitudes within the framework of what is socially acceptable, we will modify our behavior consciously, for the good of all.
It’s not that we can’t it’s that so few are taught how.

MY QUOTE:
Unless one examines, understands, and accepts what “need” a belief system fulfills (divine or otherwise) there can be no truth to their beliefs that is worthy of reinforcement, outside the individual.




So you and I can see that a fundamentalist has no self worth without the reinforcement of others telling them they believe correctly. We can see that an individual can not find purpose in their lives unless that purpose exalts them to the status of the “chosen” to the mightiest power ever to exist. But you don’t believe they can ever see this in themselves?

Or is it that you believe they are harmless and by making them face a different view they are being harmed by the denial of their egotistical need?

They can change they choose not to because change is difficult, because accepting responsibility for ones self does not always offer the ‘expected’ easy reinforcement they are used to.

I have no pity for those who have all the answers, for those who have no reason, or right, to deny to others what they are themselves granted. Let them cry in phantom dark, I will not reinforce their behavior any longer with sympathy.

Ok, so you have made fairy tale that you choose to believe – that’s good. But if you are satisfied with it, why do keep looking for other sources to reinforce it – to verify it? Why not just stop there?

You cannot prove or disprove what you call a "fairy tale." It is only an idea or a feeling. It is not a belief. If you have a better idea and any evidence to support it, I am all ears.

My picture of reality is a holographic model.

I do not stop because I am not finished, nor am I satisfied that I am right.

Please tell me what your answer is. What do you believe, and where is your supporting evidence? I am open to any information you might have.

JB