I got this from yellow rose concerning Horus.

• Horus was born to Isis; there is no mention in history of her being called “Mary.” Moreover, Mary is our anglicized form of her real name ‘Miryam’ or Miriam. “Mary” was not even used in the original texts of Scripture.
• Isis was not a virgin; she was the widow of Osiris and conceived Horus with Osiris.
• Horus was born during month of Khoiak (Oct/Nov), not December 25. Further, there is no mention in the Bible as to Christ’s actual birth date.
• There is no record of three kings visiting Horus at his birth. The Bible never states the actual number of magi that came to see Christ.
• Horus not a “savior” in any shape or form; he did not die for anyone.
• There are no accounts of Horus being a teacher at the age of 12.
• Horus was not “baptized.” The only account of Horus that involves water is one story where Horus is torn to pieces, with Iris requesting the crocodile god to fish him out of the water he was placed into.
• Horus did not have a “ministry.”
• Horus did not have 12 disciples. According to the Horus accounts, Horus had four semi-gods that were followers and some indications of 16 human followers and an unknown number of blacksmiths that went into battle with him.
• There is no account of Horus being betrayed by a friend.
• Horus did not die by crucifixion. There are various accounts of Horus’ death, but none of them involve crucifixion.
• There is no account of Horus being buried for three days.
• Horus was not resurrected. There is no account of Horus coming out of the grave with the body he went in with. Some accounts have Horus/Osiris being brought back to life by Isis and going to be the lord of the underworld.


There are some similarities but many differences. The myth of Horus has nothing to do with whether or not Christianity is true or not. Even if both accounts were exactly the same it still could be the case that Christianity is true.


I named four facts concerning what the majority scholarship knows about the resurrection. I then said the Christian is amply justified in claiming Christ rose from the dead given the four facts.

I enjoy your posts TB Rich

WHat is going on with the posts

I find your comment interesting.

"The religionsgeschichtliche approach to the resurrection soon collapsed and is today almost universally abandoned, primarily for two reasons: The supposed parallels were spurious. The ancient world was a virtual cornucopia of myths of gods and heroes. Comparative studies in religion and literature require sensitivity to the similarities and differences, or distortion and confusion inevitably result. Some of these mythological figures are merely symbols of the crop cycle (Osiris, et al.); others have to do with apotheosis by assumption into heaven (Hercules, Romulus); still others concern disappearance stories, which seek to answer the question of where the hero has gone by saying that he lives on in a higher sphere (Apollonius, Empedocles); others are cases of political Emperor–worship (Julius Caesar, Augustus). None of these is parallel to the Jewish notion of resurrection from the dead. With respect to the resurrection narratives, David Aune, a specialist in ancient literature, concludes that "no parallel to them is found in Graeco–Roman biography." Rather the resurrection narratives, like the gospels in general, are to be interpreted within a Jewish context."

-According to Lewis, eternity with God would be hell for the non believer.

-Hell was created for Lucifer and the angels, it was not initially meant for man. It is outer darkness, you will not see, nor be seen by anyone.

-Lucifer was a created being, his reason for existence is God. God has never ceased to be. "I AM"

-There is no empirical evidence for Santa clause or the easter bunny. There is however good evidence to believe that the Judeo Christian worldview is true.

Remember they concentrate particularly on his three years of ministry. They are writing for different people, at different times, in different places.

no they are not! find me someone who is not mentally insane that can prove to me that these "historical facts" have any backing outside of the bible.

another thing that irks me, you know how jesus was born of a virgin mother. why is there no other evidence of a virgin woman giving birth outside of the bible. how did the romans not know of this and keep record of it? it seems like kind of a big deal.



N. T. Wright, an eminent British scholar, concludes, “That is why, as an historian, I cannot explain the rise of early Christianity unless Jesus rose again, leaving an empty
tomb behind him.

N.T. Wright is the worlds leading scholar of our time according to Newsweek magazine in a study they did on Christianity.


The virgin birth was a miracle. You rarely see the same miracle twice. The Roman world did know about it according to Matthew who was an eye witness and companion of Jesus. His letter is believed to be an attempt at a biography concerning the life of Jesus, particularly his three years of ministry.

Josephus, written about 93 AD

"Antiquities 18.3.3 Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was the Christ, and when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men among us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him; for he appeared to them alive again the third day; as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him. And the tribe of Christians so named from him are not extinct at this day."

They are believed to be historical facts by the majority of scholarship.

Fact #1: After his crucifixion, Jesus was buried by Joseph of Arimathea in the tomb. This fact is highly significant because it means that the location of Jesus’s tomb was known to Jew and Christian alike. In that case it becomes inexplicable how belief in his resurrection could arise and flourish in the face of a tomb containing his corpse. According to the late John A. T. Robinson of Cambridge University, the honorable burial of Jesus is one of "the earliest and best-attested facts about Jesus."{15}

"Fact #2: On the Sunday morning following the crucifixion, the tomb of Jesus was found empty by a group of his women followers. According to Jakob Kremer, an Austrian specialist on the resurrection, "By far most exegetes hold firmly to the reliability of the biblical statements concerning the empty tomb."{16} As D. H. van Daalen points out, "It is extremely difficult to object to the empty tomb on historical grounds; those who deny it do so on the basis of theological or philosophical assumptions.""

"Fact #3: On multiple occasions and under various circumstances, different individuals and groups of people experienced appearances of Jesus alive from the dead. This is a fact that is almost universally acknowledged among New Testament scholars today. Even Gert Lüdemann, perhaps the most prominent current critic of the resurrection, admits, "It may be taken as historically certain that Peter and the disciples had experiences after Jesus’s death in which Jesus appeared to them as the risen Christ.""

"Finally, fact #4: The original disciples believed that Jesus was risen from the dead despite their having every reason not to. Despite having every predisposition to the contrary, it is an undeniable fact of history that the original disciples believed in, proclaimed, and were willing to go to their deaths for the fact of Jesus’s resurrection. C. F. D. Moule of Cambridge University concludes that we have here a belief which nothing in terms of prior historical influences can account for--apart from the resurrection itself."


I am amply justified in believing Christ rose from the dead based on these four facts.

"When Adam sinned, sin entered the world. Adam’s sin brought death, so death spread to everyone, for everyone sinned."

"But the free gift is not like the transgression. For if by the transgression of (G)the one (H)the many died, much more did the grace of God and the gift by (I)the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abound to the many."


Isnt it believed by naturalists that evolution has hard wired our brain for faith.

Its not an argument. It is realizing the holiness of God.

Forgiveness was not cheap. It cost God more than you and I could ever know.

How does your worldview deal with the problem of evil?

My worldview does not violate the laws of logic?

You admit there is evil in the world. How does your worldview deal with the problem of evil?

How so eljay. What about Romans 5:12

"no one is righteous, no not on, all have turned away and fallen short of the glory of God"

WHat was the worldview that was behind there socio political philosophy, the motivation behind there decisions.

How do you explain the actions of Stalin, Mao, ect.

I cant address every situation. I dont know the Church's position on every event. I do know, its important that we look to Christ. He is the author and founder of Christianity. You'll never believe anything if you judge each worldview the way you are judging Christianity.