Seems to me that the problem lies, not in science, but in your instructor. If scientists through history didn't question the work of those before them, science would never advance.

As far as that quote is concerned, It is on one of the many documentaries/movies I have on Atheism/Religion/Science. I just couldn't remember which one it was on but you are probably right that came from Steven Weinberg.

Yes. As a stated in another thread, "Without Religion, you would have good people doing good things, and evil people doing evil things, but for good people to do evil things, it takes religion" (and again, those aren't my words, but I cannot remember who said it)


How can that which is not peaceful maintain peace?(the Witch trails, Spanish Inquisition, the Crusades, today's jihad against all "infidels"...)


Yes, I believe religion's end is long overdue. I really have a hard time understanding how things that have been continually tested to the point of being able to call them facts, are ignored and even flat-out denied, simply because a book written before our time states otherwise.



I believe to be true things that can either a.) be tested. or b.) things that have been documented throughout time by multiple sources.
Religion doesn't have a. or b.

Used to live in Greenwood, recently moved up to the North Side.

I can't remember who originally said this, but it fits:

"Without religion, we would have good people doing good things, and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, it takes religion."

Best case I can give, given the narrow-mindedness of your time frame: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nylonase

Basically, this bacteria developed an enzyme to breakdown nylon, a man made material. This enzyme could not have existed before the material existed. The food source must be present before the organism that eats it.

You're right, you just tell people that if they don't believe like you do, then thay are beyond hope...

It's really quite simple, for creationism/I.D. to be proven, someone needs to find an organism that is irreducibly complex. Simply, for ID to be correct, you need to find an organism, or a system within the organism, that if you take just one part of that away, it will no longer work. Each and every example of this that the ID camp has trotted out with, Science has disproven the Irreducibly Complexity of the organism/organism system.

I find it hard to believe that you actually watched all the videos, and didn't get a single answer..

looking at the continued complaining over the pictures I think I see what the 2 main problems are.
1. the use of the period(.) instead of the colon(:)
2. The Christians who are complaining over "being lumped together" are, for whatever reason, refusing to see that the poster posted the picture as an example of the type Christians that steadfastly refuse to accept evolution.

Glad you liked it. the extras on the DVD are pretty good too.



If nothing else in this forum, we agree that the uber-religious will be highly offended...

That is a pretty big judgment for a christian...

Well, of course, because during that time, the church ruled the world.

Early on in American History, an Atheist would have been able to hold public office, while being openly Atheist.

BIBLE- "Buy Bull"

So, basically, you have a problem when one said presents the evidence of things such as evolution, and the numerous other things that make a god unlikely.

BUT, you are okay with it when we(the skeptics) get told we are "beyond help" from someone who does believe.



Now, I'm not gonna sit here and pretend that I am perfect. I am not, and I have done my fair share of ridiculing, but I have also been a target of ridicule from the other side, as well.
So, saying the Skeptics are the only ones who ridicule on this forum is akin to saying that only the white man is capable of racism.

Bull****. Never got penalized in any of the wrecks he caused in the truck series. Never got penalized when he wrecked jr at Richmond.
If I recall correctly Smoke didn't get penalized when he sent Kenseth(?) up in front of everyone the year he complained about Daytona getting dangerous.

Over all, it is a great movie, if you are a skeptic, or secure in your beliefs, you will laugh your ass off.

If you are the type of person who feels that anything less than 100% agreement with your religious beliefs is an attack on your beliefs, you will hate it and be offended by it.

The thing that annoys me is how each driver is perfect when they are the victim. Kyle Busch made comments about wrecking "when you have nothing to race for", How many wrecks were his fault just in the truck series last year? Then you have Vickers "worried about the danger" when it's his ass in the car that is out of control, yet he wasn't all that worried in 2006 when he dumped both Jr, and Jimmie for the win at 'Dega.

What's is really funny is how Vickers forgot that he did the same thing to Jr. and Jimmie at Talladega when he got his only win.

Some other things to think about, if you have seen the documentary "The God That Wasn't There", some of the things that are brought up are the decades, between the death of Jesus, and the gospels being written. Also, the time that Jesus actually lived(if he did indeed live) has also been called into question.
Also, there are many gods from the Mediterranean Area, whose stories are very similar to the story of Jesus, and there are a few of those that almost perfectly mirror the story of Jesus.