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Tue 01/06/09 07:32 AM

There is a God. I have asked many questions of God and some questions God has answered and some God has not or maybe I did not hear the answers because I have not learned to listen properly.
Not what if and not only 2 questions. :smile:

Maybe you wanted funny answers.
I would ask "can you hear me now?" "can you hear me now?"

Would you care to share your revelations from the supreme creator?

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Tue 01/06/09 07:20 AM
God and religion is preoccupied with the governing of human conduct and influencing people socially though fear and promises of rewards. This was not always the case, religion changed remarkably after societys became stratafied into social classes, recorded history documents this as king hammurabi was given a code of laws by god governing and distributing punishments for social conduct. It has followed this theme hence forward, mordern christianity can be proven as a collection of stories adopted and changed to have as thier own. As of now or ever no proof has been given as to the existance of this entity. Moses in his time still believed in many Gods but chose yaweh as his personal god. Monotheism sought to futher consolidate competing religions for social reasons during the time of rome. All three branches of modern religion based on the old testament are based on the adopted stories of the jewish people who encountered many religions and adopted their stories as would someone growing up in a different part of the world adopt social customs. The great flood is a borred story predating the old testament, jesus is another borred chararcter from the mythrain religion who was born of a virgin, had 12 disciples was betrayed cruicfied and ressurected. Hardly anything in the modern bible has not been borrowed from other cultures, this is factual history, you can look it up. So my question for god is if he wants people to follow and believe in him why is this being so elusive and uninvolved, why not reveal himself/herself/itself and state its true purpose for mankind, it would bring an end to violence and renew the broken bonds of the human race from political and ideological differances. Why not show yourself? Punk.

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Tue 01/06/09 06:49 AM

Does time as we know it truly exist?

"as we know it"???

Do we know it?

What exactly is it?

The only sensible, non-circular definition I've ever heard was based on "change of location". (Which makes it inextricable dependent upon space, but that's another topic.)

If things change position, then by definition there is time.

Simple enough.

The tough question is, (and I think this may be what the OP was hinting at) do things acually change position, or do they just totally wink out of existence with a new one winking into existence at a different location?

To our gross senses, it appears that it is the same object that is continuously moving.

But to our gross senses, a film appears to represent moving objects, when in fact, every frame of the movie is a separate and distinct image having nothing in common with any other image. One image "winks on and off", then another, completely different image "winks on and off", etc. The mechanics of optical perception make it appear to be a single continuously changing image, but in fact it is made up of discretely separate and disctinctly different images.

So how do we, or can we, know that what appears to be the same object, actually is the same object if it is in a different place?

Following that, how can we even know that an object in the same place is the same object from one instant to the next?




Just a little something I had to throw out there.

:banana:

Excellent point, it follows the same logic as a similar paradox as one pointed out by the greeks, one was if you have to travel a given distance you must first cover half that distance and before that half of that on to infinity, it would seem that the distance to cover is infinite, if I shoot an arrow can its location be pin poiinted as when i do its location has cahnged each time as it is in constant motion, if this is the case it follows that its location is on constant change
, so where exactly is it? Maybe these two paradoxs imply an ultimate limit on the measurement of either space or time that at some point incriments can no longer be divided which is a paradox in itself. It implies that the foundation is something non existant.

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Tue 01/06/09 06:38 AM


Well, I know that my truth is not necessarily somebody else s
truth. Which in my eyes doesn't make either truth less valid.


or it could be totally untruthful on another planet of species we don't know aboutlaugh

In the end many have common ground in agreeing to a truth on something, but there will always be someone who doesn't find it truthful even if it is as simple as 2+2 equation.


It is a proven fact that mathmatics can never be proven as absolutley true, that it is not true in and of itself. Reality is completely subjective and if the premise that our conciousness is influenced and guided by the forces of evolution and nothing besides theres no reason for a blind system to equip us with tools nessesary to see the world for any other reason. If you were blind from birth could mathmatics or any logical explaination tell you the color blue? The same applies for what we dont know about our universe/reality. It can not be proven by and all our theroies are based upon the subjective reality we percieve, including math. To really see the universe and or reality objectively implies we have to be outside it, which is not possible.

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Tue 01/06/09 06:27 AM



Comparing a brain to a computer is a good analogy. But a computer, no matter how good it is put together, will only do what it is programed to do. It will not go out and find its own programing and install it. (Unless it is programed to do so.) It will not uninstall programs it does not like. It does not think. It only processes information and runs programs. It only does what it is programed to do.

So the brain is not the person and it does not make conscious choices, it only processes programs. Neither does the brain go out and find programs and install them or delete programs on its own that it does not like.

The brain does not think. It only runs programs. It does not make decisions outside of its programing instructions. Most decisions people make are a result of programing and are mostly automatic and unconscious.

In some computers there are learning programs that actually learn new things. There is probably a learning program in the human brain too that makes it appear that the brain can think, but it does not think, it only collects new information via sensory input and processes it. It may then make "decisions" according to the new information it has gathered but that is still only part of the programing.



Thats nice and all, reminds me of the materialist movement hundreds of years ago. However explain the subjective experience of emotion. You ever see a computer feel sad? Perhaps they can simulate it but it is as similar to a simulated explosion.


No, computers don't feel sad or happy or have any feelings at all. This is also true of the human brain.

My point is that the brain is not the person. The brain is just a biological computer processing information. It does not feel emotions. It is not the self.

Emotions come from the astral level of consciousness.



well that explains everything......

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Tue 01/06/09 06:24 AM


Science and religion both opperate on the same principal, that is faith. The religious person has faith that their god will bring the sun up in the morning, the scientist has faith that with the physical laws applied the sun will come up in the morning. The religious person prays, the scientist measures both are ritualistic, both are looking for answers. The religious person has faith the prayer will be answered, the scientist has faith the instrument is working correctly.


OH Come on, change your display name.

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Tue 01/06/09 06:24 AM

Science and religion both opperate on the same principal, that is faith. The religious person has faith that their god will bring the sun up in the morning, the scientist has faith that with the physical laws applied the sun will come up in the morning. The religious person prays, the scientist measures both are ritualistic, both are looking for answers. The religious person has faith the prayer will be answered, the scientist has faith the instrument is working correctly.

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Tue 01/06/09 06:21 AM

some call me the gangsta of love

SOme people call me maurice

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Mon 01/05/09 08:06 PM
Some call me the thread ender.

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Sun 01/04/09 07:44 PM

Your observations are laughable, society is founded on supersition, misinformation, and the pursuit of power. Aside from the 4-5 people here questioining freewill vs. determanism. Hey paris is in trouble gotta go watch TV.
I just don't understand the purpose of a post like this. It is condescending, demeaning and confusing, with no apparent point other than ridicule and dogmatic over-simplification.

Or maybe it's just intended as a practical demonstration of one type of human behavior?


No i enjoy doing it. When people feel that thier imaginary commodity of self-esteem is at stake they try harder and may even learn something. Plus I like debates, I like provoking debates, its actually very effective. Dogmatic over-simplification, dont ever use that phase again. Read history, this is a common theme through history few will dispute. Also recognize satire when you see it. If you dont understand something, start by asking the source, be specifc if youd like a responce.

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Sun 01/04/09 07:28 PM


paradox is not the same as contradiction. A commonly sighted paradox, you go back in time and kill your father before you were born. Paradox. the blue ball is red- contradiction. See the differance.


Yes, I see the difference.I don't believe your example is an appropriate corollary to the true/false example though. And while I also agree that contradiction isn't paradox, contradiction is a necessary component of paradox. Two contradictory things that each appear to be true is pretty much the definition of a paradox.

I believe the reason the example "The following statement is true: everything I say (write) is false" is paradoxical is rooted in our necessity, as humans, to accept each others statements as true, unless we have reason for suspicion (dealing with a used car salesman), or the statement contradicts what we already know to be either true or false: A blue ball is blue = true. A blue ball is red = false. Imagine what life would be like if our initial assumption when someone states something is that it is false until proven true.

So:

What I am about to say is true. Response- OK

Everything I say is false. Response- OK... Hey, wait a minute! That means what you said before is false, which means that what you're saying now is true, and so on.

Where, to paraphrase, if you don't mind:

All blue balls(!) are blue. Response- OK

This blue ball is red. Response- "...Whoa... no sorry try harder" - as you say.





The statement "everything i say is false" is the same as the blue ball is red, meaning its observer dependant which is the explanation for godels therom. You con not dertmine the validity of a staement/equation without being outside that system or rules you used to come to that conclusion. See now?

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Sun 01/04/09 07:22 PM

Oh hey has anyone heard of the e-meter? This is funny they call it an energy meter as a test for well being you hold contacts and answer questions, the "e-meter" measures skin conductance so it is in fact a low budget lie detector. The implications are obvious, i would not go to them to learn about spirituality.

A couple corrections...

E-Meter stands for “electropsychometer” not “energy meter”

Answering questions while holding the contacts has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with any “test for well being”.


Anyway my point I think is obvious.

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Sun 01/04/09 07:21 PM

Oh hey has anyone heard of the e-meter? This is funny they call it an energy meter as a test for well being you hold contacts and answer questions, the "e-meter" measures skin conductance so it is in fact a low budget lie detector. The implications are obvious, i would not go to them to learn about spirituality.

A couple corrections...

E-Meter stands for “electropsychometer” not “energy meter”

Answering questions while holding the contacts has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with any “test for well being”.


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Sun 01/04/09 07:20 PM




ROFL

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Sun 01/04/09 07:17 PM

Oh hey has anyone heard of the e-meter? This is funny they call it an energy meter as a test for well being you hold contacts and answer questions, the "e-meter" measures skin conductance so it is in fact a low budget lie detector. The implications are obvious, i would not go to them to learn about spirituality.

A couple corrections...

E-Meter stands for “electropsychometer” not “energy meter”

Answering questions while holding the contacts has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with any “test for well being”.



FIrst of all its not important, second of all no awnsering questions does not, however talking can help, third of all, what your point?

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Sun 01/04/09 07:15 PM


Oh hey has anyone heard of the e-meter? This is funny they call it an energy meter as a test for well being you hold contacts and awnser questions, the "e-meter" measures skin conductance so it is in fact a low budget lie detector. The implications are obvious, i would not go to them to learn about spirituality.









:thumbsup: Got one:thumbsup:

Got what a lie detector...um yes actually.

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Thu 01/01/09 01:36 AM
there is plenty of neuological differances in many cases of mental illnes, some even can predict future illness by how the brain develops. The subject is not completely understood because the human brain is one of the most complex systems in the universe, "If our brains were so simple we could understand them, we wouldnt."

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Thu 01/01/09 01:32 AM









Dude, i was with a woman that was dually diagnost with bi-polar and manic, after 3 years i left. In my opinion, there is no excuse when it comes to the way u treat a person. She used her "ailment" as an excuse to do absoultly nothing and treat me like crap. I dont blame u 1 bit for ending it, in my opinion, 95% of mental illnesses is just another label for a person who lacks self control!!


It's a chemical imbalance of the brain.


Its a Theory that is horribly over used and with no grounds based in science. If the chemicals and receptors were off, your body would cease to function, causing DEATH. Besides no persons body has a docummented BALANCE of chemicals for there to be an inbalance. Its just Psudo-science, just another cop-out to prevent self responsobilty


I respectfully disagree. I have a background in psych.flowerforyou

What you said doesn't hold water. When a person is addicted to crack, their chemicals are off balance and their synapses have changed. They are not dead. It's documented with cat scans of the brain and blood tests, btw.


I have a strong background in primate psych myself, and with all the love and respect, i know better.

Show me a chemical chart that stats a proven and established chemical balance,because there has to be a balance for there to be an inbalance. Ill bet u cant because there never has been 1. Cat scans are just a tomography machine and they can only show physical abnormalities and do nothing for chemical makeup.

Let me guess, pfizer puts out the blood tests right?

Point is the idea is a theory that has no proof based in science, and in my and alot of other opinions, is junk science and cant and will never be proven


Research what crack does to a brain. You'll find that the dopamine and seratonin gets decreased. Their brain gets re-wired and the receptors/synapses change.

I don't have to find you a chart. I already know the facts.

Bi-polar patients are hospitalized while they take blood tests to see which medicines help the best.








benzoylmethyl ecgonine blocks dopimine transporter protien. Addiction is a physical illness anyway, It causes actual brain, liver and cardiovascular damage.

mental illness is a whole nother ball game, The mental illness umbrella is a load of pseudo scientifical BS that cant be proven because its a man made excuse for there own actions.

Natures machine is the brain controls the body, When people are held accountable for there actions with little to no cop-outs, we will see this junk all go away. Even Pfizer recognizes that its a THEORY, check out the bottom of there Zoloft adds, there advertisements assert that mental illness MAY be due to chemical imbalances in the brain, and that their drugs correct this imbalance.


Addiction becomes a physical illness after the addiction is long term. The brain chemical imbalance starts years before the physical injuries.

Some mental illnesses are chemical imbalances of the brain.

I guess that you think that Alzheimers is about lack of control too.



Hehe, im more educated than that,its cause by amyloid plaques with neurofibrillary tangles, but that is still just a theory. Its obvious that it again is a physical illness, that is completely out of our control unlike our conscience thought and actions


Ah now I get, yes amyloid plaques....wiki huh? If your so educated why are you asking for advice? Can you explain the mechanism of action without consulting any online sources and talk about things which you know nothing? The whole chemical model of brain illness is inspired and data and reseach corupted by phramasuitical companies. Secondly regarding the responders view as mental illness as an exuse, well it can be used that way for sometimes and everyone ill or not uses environmental reasons to comfort thier percieved inferiority or helplesness what have you. How ever all human beings are biased by thier subjective opinoin in which they filter others actions in a way understandable to them, you have explained your own observations about yourself, nothing more. Your tone indicates you had a realtionship in which conflict was dealt with by blaming and insults of character in an effort to cope with one another its quite common and almost standard, clean up your side of the street is a common saying.

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Wed 12/31/08 04:28 PM
paradox is not the same as contradiction. A commonly sighted paradox, you go back in time and kill your father before you were born. Paradox. the blue ball is red- contradiction. See the differance.

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Wed 12/31/08 04:20 PM
Although manic depressive can cause severe mood swings and even alter perspection drastically do to that it is still treatable though theopy and communication. Cognitive psychology self awareness of illness are positive steps for the one who is ill the best way to deal with a person suffering from a mental affliction is education, empathy and tolerance. Help that person find resources and support groups so they can se there affliction objectively. All mental illness has gradients as well, however if the person has lucid states theropy can be very helpful, conitive psychology, though I havent researched the studies claim to be able to help scizophenia, of course in some there is no lucid moments sadly.