I practiced Jediism when I was 8 but I got tired of playing Luke Skywalker waving my lightsaber around. I wanted to be Hans Solo. So I gave that up real fast.

and yes Jediism is a real religion today. Over a million followers.

Then I was to be baptised once but a terrible thunderstorm happened and a tree blocked a road to the church. (This is a true story by the way). So my parents postponed to baptise me and at the end they where to lazy to go to that church again, so I was never baptised to any mediterrenean mythology.

I lived a life non religous but very spiritual just because it makes me feel good. I am a mixed mut when it comes to belief systems. I like to use my imagination and often use mythologies to create fantasy stories.

In the end I am human and get silly at times. Some days I am a druid or a warlock, the other day a prophet, and then some days I like the stories of demons and devils.

In reality I have been a humanatarian for over 15 years before a accident occurred.

I would say being a humantarian is my true calling in the end, but I couldn't find a thread for that alone

"Every thing I say is false" is self-contradictory only when one assumes the speaker's statements are true. You stated it more accurately earlier when you reduced both sides to "This true statement is false."

It's no different than your earlier analogy assuming the existence of a time machine: "I can't kill my father because I can kill my father."

A contradictory self-referential statement differs in my mind from a simple contradiction in that it appears to be simultaneously true and false, when, as you stated, considered within the system of rules used to consider it

And, if I understand Godel's theorem correctly, once one steps outside that system of rules in order to consider the statement, the same problem arises because the original system of rules is contained within the new system of rules. That's so mind-numbingly paradoxical that I begin having serious difficulty thinking about it.

Paradox? Contradiction? Who cares what we call it? Let's call it the "Pompitous Effect" and be done with it.

My, aren't we just a ray of sunshine?

It would not matter to the natural world. It may not even matter to humanity. It is the battle that matters. The battle constitutes motion, action having both cause and effect. The outcome is simply the effect which will go on to become the cause for other motions and actions.

Human evolution has given us the tools to perceive, question, evaluate and gain knowledge, understanding. Using what we've learned we attempt to use determinism to intercede in the causal to bring about desired effects.

What occurs is of no matter to the Universe, its all just part of the universal emergent process; action, motion, cause and effect.

God and religion is preoccupied with the governing of human conduct and influencing people socially though fear and promises of rewards. This was not always the case, religion changed remarkably after societys became stratafied into social classes, recorded history documents this as king hammurabi was given a code of laws by god governing and distributing punishments for social conduct. It has followed this theme hence forward, mordern christianity can be proven as a collection of stories adopted and changed to have as thier own. As of now or ever no proof has been given as to the existance of this entity. Moses in his time still believed in many Gods but chose yaweh as his personal god. Monotheism sought to futher consolidate competing religions for social reasons during the time of rome. All three branches of modern religion based on the old testament are based on the adopted stories of the jewish people who encountered many religions and adopted their stories as would someone growing up in a different part of the world adopt social customs. The great flood is a borred story predating the old testament, jesus is another borred chararcter from the mythrain religion who was born of a virgin, had 12 disciples was betrayed cruicfied and ressurected. Hardly anything in the modern bible has not been borrowed from other cultures, this is factual history, you can look it up. So my question for god is if he wants people to follow and believe in him why is this being so elusive and uninvolved, why not reveal himself/herself/itself and state its true purpose for mankind, it would bring an end to violence and renew the broken bonds of the human race from political and ideological differances. Why not show yourself? Punk.

Believe or not believe is a free choice you have. You can say with fact stories are fictional if your are not a 2000 year old person.
I will not attempt to convince you of anything. You must find your own path and your own destination.

There is a book you can read for your own answers. I let you guess the books name.

Why...

Yes, I AM the youngest of parents who had me late in life.


Guess I'm just a predictable and pathetic drone.


All we have are stabs in the dark, aye?