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Should we should be worried about people thrown to the lions in coliseums and torture chambers used by the British people.How about we worry about slaves building the pyramids for the Egyptians? Why you worry about things that have happened at least 2,000 to 6,000 years ago and you act like Christians and Jews still carry out these threats on a daily basis is nothing but brain dead stupid.These events are ancient history and do not reflect in any way the attitude of Christians and Jews living in this world today. Gee, maybe because that's exactly what this thread is all about? You know-- HISTORY?? The root of 'historical'? I ask again-- how many people have to be killed before it's wrong? Especially when it's done on the marching orders of 'loving God'? Hey Kerry lets just bury our heads in the sand like a bunch of ostriches and totally ignore Islamic countries that are threating to destroy us "in one great ball of fire".Let's totally ignore the fact that in the last hundred years it has been Atheist countries who have started Wars and conflicts not the Christians.Let's write to our President and tell him we need to focus more on what the Christians did hundreds and thousands of years ago because Atheist and Muslims can't possibly be a danger to the World. Some of us have more important things to worry about then people fighting before the pyramids were even built.We worry about current events with real people who are a real threat not dead people that turned to dust thousands of years ago. So, just do it and get it over with. Vaporize a few million souls with nukes and tell your God they deserved a first strike. Maybe it will hasten Armageddon and the fulfillment of Revelations. Wouldn't that be nice? Maybe he didn't believe in a God, but Stalin also sought to do away with the people who he thought were a threat to him with extreme prejudice. BTW, isn't it funny how the WMDs were never found in Iraq, and THAT one was surely not started by an 'atheist nation.' Nor was Viet Nam. If you really knew the history of warfare, you'd be on the lookout for the people who are more like the Mongols, who pretty much decimated Islamic nations back in the middle ages. The Baath party regulars were amateurs compared to them. -Kerry O. We are talking about Atheist and the murder they commit because Atheist dictators and their followers are a direct threat to our way of life more than any other form of belief.We don't need to go back 3,000 years.We can go back just in the last 50 and see the millions of people killed.In the future it will either be Islamic or Atheist countries that are going to be a threat to our future.It will not be Christian. I don't remember the United states going to war for anything related to Christianity.The United states Government is not run according to the bible.It is not run by laws from the bible.It does not have courts run by the church.It does not have a Christian police or military using the bible to enforce laws.Priests and Bishops do not tell our Government what to do. If you can prove that this war was started because of Christianity.That this on going War is being fought for Christianity,and that our government is using the bible to justify the War go ahead.When you present your case to the court your evidence will be ZERO! |
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funny i still yet to see anyone claim that atheist leaders killed in the name of atheism.none have committed mass genocide to a nation full of one or mixed religions cause they were religious It is a well established fact that Atheist dictators who started these Wars banned religion from their country and killed anyone who was practicing their religion.Many of these Atheist dictators banned religion specifically because the people who practiced religion held God as the supreme ruler of their country and their life.Not the dictator who was in power.This is the main reason Hitler hated and despised the Jews so much.They refused to accept him as the supreme ruler of Germany. To say Atheist do not commit genocide in the name of Atheism is a lie.If dictators are killing people because they are not Atheist and believe in God then I would have to say the belief in Atheism was the cause of their death.This is no different than a Muslim cutting of the head of a non believer. |
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Atheism and Suicide
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http://www.adherents.com/misc/religion_suicide.html
According to a recent study published in The American Journal of Psychiatry religious affiliation is associated with significantly lower levels of suicide compared to religiously unaffiliated people, atheists and agnostics. Source: Kanita Dervic, Maria A. Oquendo, Michael F. Grunebaum, Steve Ellis, Ainsley K. Burke, and J. John Mann. "Religious Affiliation and Suicide Attempt" (161:2303-2308, December 2004). Pitzer College sociologist Phil Zuckerman compiled country-by-country survey, polling and census numbers relating to atheism, agnosticism, disbelief in God and people who state they are non-religious or have no religious preference. These data were published in the chapter titled "Atheism: Contemporary Rates and Patterns" in The Cambridge Companion to Atheism, ed. by Michael Martin, Cambridge University Press: Cambridge, UK (2005). In examining various indicators of societal health, Zuckerman concludes about suicide: Concerning suicide rates, this is the one indicator of societal health in which religious nations fare much better than secular nations. According to the 2003 World Health Organization's report on international male suicides rates (which compared 100 countries), of the top ten nations with the highest male suicide rates, all but one (Sri Lanka) are strongly irreligious nations with high levels of atheism. It is interesting to note, however, that of the top remaining nine nations leading the world in male suicide rates, all are former Soviet/Communist nations, such as Belarus, Ukraine, and Latvia. Of the bottom ten nations with the lowest male suicide rates, all are highly religious nations with statistically insignificant levels of organic atheism. |
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The Real Murderers: Atheism or Christianity? Is it legitimate to condemn religion for historical atrocities? http://www.str.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=5527 Isn't it interesting how that site has things for sale? And it all disses Unbelievers? Makes one wonder about their motives, not to mention their objectivism. It looks to me like it takes the Pontius Pilate approach to religion and war-- " I find no evil and I wash my hands of it." I guess my question is how many times can you look the other way in the face of the Old Testament genocides and things like the Spanish Inquisition since the New Testament's been out. How many deaths do there have to be before it's wrong? There are a LOT of Far Right Christians in the U.S. who are all for nuking Iran. -Kerry O. Should we should be worried about people thrown to the lions in coliseums and torture chambers used by the British people.How about we worry about slaves building the pyramids for the Egyptians? Why you worry about things that have happened at least 2,000 to 6,000 years ago and you act like Christians and Jews still carry out these threats on a daily basis is nothing but brain dead stupid.These events are ancient history and do not reflect in any way the attitude of Christians and Jews living in this world today. Hey Kerry lets just bury our heads in the sand like a bunch of ostriches and totally ignore Islamic countries that are threating to destroy us "in one great ball of fire".Let's totally ignore the fact that in the last hundred years it has been Atheist countries who have started Wars and conflicts not the Christians.Let's write to our President and tell him we need to focus more on what the Christians did hundreds and thousands of years ago because Atheist and Muslims can't possibly be a danger to the World. Some of us have more important things to worry about then people fighting before the pyramids were even built.We worry about current events with real people who are a real threat not dead people that turned to dust thousands of years ago. |
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Athiest are the real killers of this world not the Christians.
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/atrocities.html REGIMES YEARS DEMOCIDE2 Atheist? ------------------------------------- U.S.S.R. 1917-87 61,911,000 Yes China(PRC)949-87 35,236,000 Yes Germany 1933-45 20,946,000 No China 1928-49 10,075,000 No Japan 1936-45 5,964,000 No Chin(Mao Soviets)3 1923-49 3,466,000 Yes Cambodia 1975-79 2,035,000 Yes Turkey (Armenian Genocide) 1909-18 1,883,000 No Vietnam 1945-87 1,670,000 Yes Poland 1945-48 1,585,000 Yes Pakistan 1958-87 1,503,000 No Yugoslavia(Tito) 1944-87 1,072,000 Yes North Korea 1948-87 1,663,000 Yes Mexico 1900-20 1,417,000 No Russia 1900-17 1,066,000 Yes China (Warlords) 1917-49 910,000 No Turkey (Ataturk) 1919-23 878,000 No United Kingdom 1900-87 816,000 No Portugal (Dictatorship) 1926-82 741,000 No Indonesia 1965-87 729,000 No LESSER MURDERERS 1900-87 2,792,000 ? WORLD TOTAL 1900-87 169,202,000 107,047,000 Vox Day, in The Irrational Atheist, lists 22 atheistic regimes that committed 153,368,610 murders in the 20th century alone: Murders by Atheists (20th Century) Country Dates Murders Afghanistan 1978–1992 1,750,000 Albania 1944–1985 100,000 Angola 1975–2002 125,000 Bulgaria 1944–1989 222,000 China/PRC 1923–2007 76,702,000 Cuba 1959–1992 73,000 Czechoslovakia 1948–1968 65,000 Ethiopia 1974–1991 1,343,610 France 1793–1794 40,000 Greece 1946–1949 20,000 Hungary 1948–1989 27,000 Kampuchea/Cambodia 1973–1991 2,627,000 Laos 1975–2007 93,000 Mongolia 1926–2007 100,000 Mozambique 1975–1990 118,000 North Korea 1948–2007 3,163,000 Poland 1945–1948 1,607,000 Romania 1948–1987 438,000 Spain (Republic) 1936–1939 102,000 U.S.S.R. 1917–1987 61,911,000 Vietnam 1945–2007 1,670,000 Yugoslavia 1944–1980 1,072,000 |
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Homosexuality is a choice because if we really born that way we would people would be born 50% straight and 50% gay.There is also millions of people around the world who were gay,was saved through the church and are no longer gay anymore.It is a choice because we both know it is not like someone is going to take control over you body and force you to have sex with another man.You may have temptations like anyone else but you don't have to act on those temptations.It is also stupid to say we are born that way because if we really believe that then we would be saying that God is endorsing and giving us the very thing he warned us no to do.God does not put sin and homosexuality into a new born baby.It is ridiculous to think that. Ignorance is just your stock-in-trade, isn't it. If I wanted to debate with someone who just sits back and takes cheap shots I would start debating with the Junior high school debate club.You want to debate start acting like a adult.Your whining blah,blah,blah Thomas says this,Thomas is a moron,BS is totally useless to myself and anyone else here looking to have a civil debate.I've been insulted by people ten times the man you could ever be so don't think anything you can ever say is something I would take seriously. "You even called me stupid in your verse, and I’m almost agreeing, for where stupidity is involved, you are quite an expert, friend." -Franz Grillparzer |
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Mark 2:15-17 And it happened that He was reclining at the table in his house, and many tax collectors and sinners were dining with Jesus and His disciples; for there were many of them, and they were following Him. When the scribes of the Pharisees saw that He was eating with the sinners and tax collectors, they said to His disciples, "Why is He eating and drinking with tax collectors and sinners?" And hearing this, Jesus said to them, "It is not those who are healthy who need a physician, but those who are sick; I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners." Exactly right!Why did he call the sinners?To repent of their sins. |
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God and Jesus DO NOT love you regardless of what you are doing wrong.I do not know where Christians and the rest of the world are reading these verses that God and Jesus love you no matter who you are.It is a flat out lie.If there is such a verse that God and Jesus loves unrepentant and unholy sinners I would love to read about it. "I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance." - Luke 5:32 If Jesus didn't love the unrepentant sinners, why would he have chosen to die on the cross for them? Thomas, does someone berating you make you want to please them? Does it make you want to do what they are saying? Our job as Christians is to introduce the world to Jesus and the allow Jesus to work in their heart. Homosexuals have committed suicide because they can't change and they want to be like everyone else. If homosexuality were a choice, would they express such pain and self hate to their friends, families and diaries? If anyone could change them or help them to become happy with who they are, it would be Jesus. I recognize that you are trying to do the Lord's work and I respect you for that. What I am telling you is that I feel that a gentle approach should be made towards people, so that they will accept Jesus. A harsh rebuking approach will just drive them away, it's how humans work. "Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves." Are you being a sheep? Shrewd as a serpent? As innocent as a dove? "I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance." - Luke 5:32 Did you read this wrong???Do you under stand what SINNERS TO REPENTANCE means? Our job as Christians is not to tell lies to those seeking the truth.The fact of the matter is that homosexuality is sin,is wrong,and was mentioned in the New testament. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God. Personally I could care less if people are homosexual or not.Their fate is their fate.What I am not going to accept is idiot Christians out there spreading lies about what the bible says about homosexuality. Homosexuality is a choice because if we really born that way we would people would be born 50% straight and 50% gay.There is also millions of people around the world who were gay,was saved through the church and are no longer gay anymore.It is a choice because we both know it is not like someone is going to take control over you body and force you to have sex with another man.You may have temptations like anyone else but you don't have to act on those temptations.It is also stupid to say we are born that way because if we really believe that then we would be saying that God is endorsing and giving us the very thing he warned us no to do.God does not put sin and homosexuality into a new born baby.It is ridiculous to think that. As far as me being harsh.I am only telling you what Jesus has said and what God has said. (James 5:20) 20 let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death, and will cover a multitude of sins. (Revelation of John 21:8) 8 But for the cowardly, unbelieving, sinners, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their part is in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”" (Jude 1:7) 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them, having, in the same way as these, given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the punishment of eternal fire. (Galatians 6:7-8) 7 Don’t be deceived. God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. 8 For he who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption. But he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life. (I John 2:4) 4 One who says, “I know him,” and doesn’t keep his commandments, is a liar, and the truth isn’t in him. (James 1:15) 15 Then the lust, when it has conceived, bears sin; and the sin, when it is full grown, brings forth death. (John 8:11) 11 She said, “No one, Lord.” Jesus said, "“Neither do I condemn you. Go your way. From now on, sin no more.”" (John 3:36) 36 One who believes in the Son has eternal life, but one who disobeys the Son won’t see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.” (Romans 8:7-8) 7 because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God’s law, neither indeed can it be. 8 Those who are in the flesh can’t please God. (Ephesians 5:5) 5 Know this for sure, that no sexually immoral person, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the Kingdom of Christ and God. (James 4:4) 4 You adulterers and adulteresses, don’t you know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. |
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none are without sin, so to hate sinners is to hate everyone,,hardly christlike we are to hate sin, but not people who sin,, there is a difference I think you fail to realize what it means to confess and repent of your sins and what it means to live a sinful unrepentant life.Everyone sins Ms Harmony but the majority of good Christians don't keep doing what God and Jesus both demanded them not to do.If you are going to keep rebelling,keep disobeying,and keep leading a ungodly and unholy life then what is the purpose of calling yourself a Christian?Both God and Jesus warned us that if you are going to disobey Gods word and live a unholy life they didn't want anything to do with you.The bible warns that Atheist will look better in God's eyes then a Christian who knows he or she is doing wrong and keeps doing it. Christ never defended sinful people.He rejected them.Christ never accepted sin.You will not find a single verse where Christ tells people we are to hate sin and ignore the person who is commiting sin. Christ holds accountable sinners for their sins. Christ holds accountable sinners for their actions. Christ rejects unrepentant sinners. So this stupid idea of "hate the sin but love the sinner"is totally stupid.Christ didn't love unrepentant sinners.If he did he would let anyone do what ever they wanted because he wouldn't care.Yet Jesus warned us about sin and unrepentant sinners every time he talked. The Christ way is to follow the example of what Christ taught and spoke about. 1.Explain to people what is good and evil. 2.If you are sinning turn away from sin and repent. 3.If people do not want to repent,and if people want to continue leading sinful unrepentant lives we are to warn them what they are doing is wrong and if they won't listen to avoid them. What we do not do is accept and embrace sin including the person who is doing it. |
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To blame religion and christianity for suicides, etc related to LGBT individuals is rediculous. If someone goes and shoots someone that pissed them off because someone else made them mad, whos going to be blamed for the shooting? Its not the person who ticked the shooter off but the actual one pulling the trigger. When I make mistakes I have to own up to them because of something I DID, not someone else. Whoever said on here that we are given free will, well, you are correct. Yes, we are given free will. We are given the free will to live anyway we like to do so, but are we willing to pay the consequences rendered for our actions without trying to blame someone else? There are bad seeds in every church wanting to look and play the part-I know, Ive had to deal with them myself, in my own church. BUT there are wonderful people in them as well who would do anything for anyone. Those bad seeds, however, are the ones that make the church look bad, the ones who want to SHOVE RELIGION down peoples throats. My gay cousin has had this happen to him and his partner. It's about having a relationship with God and loving others as Christ loved the church. If those that truly show what God's love means then they would be showing it in a different way, or perhaps this is how they were taught to do so-not always a great excuse, but it does happen on occasion. The Bible DOES say there are particular things that will not get you to heaven and it is clear about this. It's not in grey, but in plain black and white (ok and sometimes red too lol) for people to understand without having to ask questions due to misinterpretation. It's not just about being "good" people. It's living your life as close as possible to the way Christ lead his own. If youre going to bash the Bible, at least get your crap right before spouting off in a forum. I think about it like this, Jesus ate dinner with prostitutes, tax collectors and the worst sinners he could find. Would Jesus have been welcome to their dinner tables if he had said "I hate your lifestyle, but I love you as a person?" or "You are a sinner!"? No, I don't think he would have. Jesus sat down with them and talked about God, God's love and the right ways to live. Homosexuality was a sin in ancient Israel, but so was eating shellfish and cutting you hair a certain way. I don't know if Homosexuality is a sin or not, but I'm not going to go around calling people a sinner in the name of God or Jesus, that would just drive them further away from Jesus. Bring people to Jesus, tell them that you love them and Jesus loves them; if they are sinning, let God convict them in their hearts. Christians are doing a great injustice by misleading the general public into believing that God and Jesus loves you no matter what you are doing.Yes Jesus did eat dinner with FORMER prostitutes and tax collectors.Jesus did not choose sinful and unrepentant sinners as his associates and friends.If Jesus was to call you friend then it was because you were not leading a sinful life and living your life according to Gods law not mans.Jesus would never accept homosexuality as anything but a abomination.Jesus would tell the gays what they are doing is wrong and they must confess and repent of their sins.If the gays did not want to confess and repent of their sins Jesus would want nothing to do with them. God and Jesus DO NOT love you regardless of what you are doing wrong.I do not know where Christians and the rest of the world are reading these verses that God and Jesus love you no matter who you are.It is a flat out lie.If there is such a verse that God and Jesus loves unrepentant and unholy sinners I would love to read about it. Psalm 5:5, "The boastful shall not stand before Thine eyes; Thou dost hate all who do iniquity," Psalm 11:5, "The Lord tests the righteous and the wicked, and the one who loves violence His soul hates." Lev. 20:23, "Moreover, you shall not follow the customs of the nation which I shall drive out before you, for they did all these things, and therefore I have abhorred them." Prov. 6:16-19, "There are six things which the Lord hates, yes, seven which are an abomination to Him: 17 Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 A heart that devises wicked plans, feet that run rapidly to evil, 19 A false witness who utters lies, and one who spreads strife among brothers." Hosea 9:15, "All their evil is at Gilgal; indeed, I came to hate them there! Because of the wickedness of their deeds I will drive them out of My house! I will love them no more; All their princes are rebels." Anyone remember when Jesus was in the temple throwing over tables,shouting,and chasing everyone out?If Jesus loved everyone wouldn't he just go from table to table and say politely "you shouldn't be selling things in the temple"? There is no reason for any Christians to support homosexuals or homosexuality.If they are supporting homosexuality then they might as well support adultery,murder,lying,and other deadly sins God and Jesus both warned about. |
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i got a piece like jesus
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I think it is probably a very stupid idea to start insulting people like Jesus Christ.What comes around goes around and if you don't think bad karma comes to those who deserve it I would say your wrong.
Somehow I have this funny feeling I will be having the last laugh. |
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ok. I dont condone abuse, but I do condone letting others make their own STANDARDS for what forms of discipline they will use so long as it doesnt result in physical harm,,,, of course its not sane to consent to someone beating the tar out of ya, but it is perfectly sane to use physical discipline which does NOT result in permanent harm Nice insight.I remember when I was a child getting slapped on the side of the head with a belt,things thrown at me,and called names.I can tell you first hand those things did leave permanent psychological harm that will never leave me.I speak out against these idiotic laws because I know what it is like to get beat for simply getting in someones way when they were in a bad mood. that means you felt ABUSED(rightly so if you were hit in the head and called names, I never was), but I did not,,,,which is a matter of PERSPECTIVE only thing I would change in Islamic subcultures is the threat of violence against those who dont choose to accept it as their birthright, I would wish for the culture to be more truly voluntary, but I think many westerners ASSUME that women there want to be more 'free'(by our standards) when I feel its logical that many muslim women are quite happy with the standards they have known and grown up with,,, and I cringe when we, or anyone else, try to define those standards for them and make western life the and western culture some IDEAL that they should be striving for I think history concerning womens rights around the world will tell you that women never resort to having less rights,less freedoms,and less dignity once they get more rights.What kind of stupid person would?All those women in Iraq certainly don't want the life they had before where the only job they could hold is that of a school teacher.No voting rights?you think they want that back again? All those sad women living under a Burqa would give anything to live the life of a American women. |
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ok. I dont condone abuse, but I do condone letting others make their own STANDARDS for what forms of discipline they will use so long as it doesnt result in physical harm,,,, of course its not sane to consent to someone beating the tar out of ya, but it is perfectly sane to use physical discipline which does NOT result in permanent harm Nice insight.I remember when I was a child getting slapped on the side of the head with a belt,things thrown at me,and called names.I can tell you first hand those things did leave permanent psychological harm that will never leave me.I speak out against these idiotic laws because I know what it is like to get beat for simply getting in someones way when they were in a bad mood. |
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So, it's a good idea to be a dominant man and give yer woman a good whoopin' just to keep her in line? only if she is of the same mind and the WHOOPIN isnt anything extreme,,, i guess it's time to get a beer, put the wife beater on, and get to whoopin... danged woman didn't have my dinner ready on time.... don't worry, i won't leave any marks... maybe a good phone book this time? This entire thread disgusts me. no woman wants to be beaten or abused. no woman is responsible for the behavior of a man that does such a thing. no one/no woman deserves to be beaten or abused. abusers should be jailed as lowest life forms. Agencies that attempt to minimize the consequences or the reports of abuse that come to them should lose their funding. immediately. at least in this country violence and abuse of women is illegal. The UAR needs to suffer worldwide economic boycott until violence - all violence - against women is criminal. The overwhelming violence against women that is still tolerated and under reported in this country should have all the guys on here seriously thinking about trying to understand some of the cautions and issues women have before jumping up to express your nice guy innocence- have you ever criticized a woman to gain control of her, or pushed her out of the way, or told her she wasn't capable of something becasue shes' a woman. No? Good. because those are all examples of abuse that will only escalate and get worse with time (ladies) The violence against women in this country is overwhelming. the men on here may not be those men, I hope not. but the violence against women cannot be denied - cannot be minimized - cannot be excused. Every woman, whether she admits it or not, goes into every first meeting hoping (somewhere in the back of her mind) that the guy isnt a beater. Me? - I obtained hands that r licsenced... as for the comment below- only a total azzhl would say something like that - even as a joke. ********************************************************************* there are all types of relationships, if she is foolish enough not to mind being hit with a phone book(didnt know that doesnt leave marks, seems like it would),, than thats on her dude so it is the woman's fault? is that what your saying? someone who is scared and dosn't know what to do for fear of getting beat more? i won't argue that some women actually want that, but i feel that most don't... when one person gets inside anothers head, the damage can be severe... so a lot of these women may want the help, but do not know how to reach for it without getting hurt. I agree, but if its a consentual relationship( I think some here are confusing fear or inaction with consent), I really cant get too upset about it,,, So if you were in a relationship with a man and he started hitting and slapping you for any number of reasons you would be ok with it? thats a bit personal, I will just say, although I would never condone a punch or an all out assault, I have had partners with whom I understood things would occasionally be 'rough' never caused me hospitalization or bruises though, as I said , one persons aggressive play is anothers discipline and yet anothers abuse,, its about personal tolerance and it should remain a personal choice,,, imho I don't think too many women would agree that getting beat by their husbands was a good form of discipline much like the millions of children that were beat when they were little.If they do think they should get slapped around they probably have a wide variety of mental problems as any person who deals in Domestic violence will tell you.I think most experts will also tell you that Domestic violence nearly always progresses to more and more abuse that gets more violent as time goes by until the woman is getting used like a punching bag. But this whole issue isn't about choice since we are talking about men beating their wives for any reason despite if the woman agrees with it or not.Furthermore since Islamic women in third world countries often wear full length dresses and head to toe Burqas a man could beat their women black and blue except the face and nobody is going to see it. |
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So, it's a good idea to be a dominant man and give yer woman a good whoopin' just to keep her in line? only if she is of the same mind and the WHOOPIN isnt anything extreme,,, i guess it's time to get a beer, put the wife beater on, and get to whoopin... danged woman didn't have my dinner ready on time.... don't worry, i won't leave any marks... maybe a good phone book this time? This entire thread disgusts me. no woman wants to be beaten or abused. no woman is responsible for the behavior of a man that does such a thing. no one/no woman deserves to be beaten or abused. abusers should be jailed as lowest life forms. Agencies that attempt to minimize the consequences or the reports of abuse that come to them should lose their funding. immediately. at least in this country violence and abuse of women is illegal. The UAR needs to suffer worldwide economic boycott until violence - all violence - against women is criminal. The overwhelming violence against women that is still tolerated and under reported in this country should have all the guys on here seriously thinking about trying to understand some of the cautions and issues women have before jumping up to express your nice guy innocence- have you ever criticized a woman to gain control of her, or pushed her out of the way, or told her she wasn't capable of something becasue shes' a woman. No? Good. because those are all examples of abuse that will only escalate and get worse with time (ladies) The violence against women in this country is overwhelming. the men on here may not be those men, I hope not. but the violence against women cannot be denied - cannot be minimized - cannot be excused. Every woman, whether she admits it or not, goes into every first meeting hoping (somewhere in the back of her mind) that the guy isnt a beater. Me? - I obtained hands that r licsenced... as for the comment below- only a total azzhl would say something like that - even as a joke. ********************************************************************* there are all types of relationships, if she is foolish enough not to mind being hit with a phone book(didnt know that doesnt leave marks, seems like it would),, than thats on her dude so it is the woman's fault? is that what your saying? someone who is scared and dosn't know what to do for fear of getting beat more? i won't argue that some women actually want that, but i feel that most don't... when one person gets inside anothers head, the damage can be severe... so a lot of these women may want the help, but do not know how to reach for it without getting hurt. I agree, but if its a consentual relationship( I think some here are confusing fear or inaction with consent), I really cant get too upset about it,,, So if you were in a relationship with a man and he started hitting and slapping you for any number of reasons you would be ok with it? |
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It's getting easier for me to see now why Democrats fought civil rights laws in the past. that is just stupid the democratic party WAS the civil rights party - always has been You don't know you history too well do you? July 17, 1862 Over unanimous Democrat opposition, Republican Congress passes Confiscation Act stating that slaves of the Confederacy “shall be forever free” January 31, 1865 13th Amendment banning slavery passed by U.S. House with unanimous Republican support, intense Democrat opposition April 8, 1865 13th Amendment banning slavery passed by U.S. Senate with 100% Republican support, 63% Democrat opposition November 22, 1865 Republicans denounce Democrat legislature of Mississippi for enacting “black codes,” which institutionalized racial discrimination February 5, 1866 U.S. Rep. Thaddeus Stevens (R-PA) introduces legislation, successfully opposed by Democrat President Andrew Johnson, to implement “40 acres and a mule” relief by distributing land to former slaves April 9, 1866 Republican Congress overrides Democrat President Johnson’s veto; Civil Rights Act of 1866, conferring rights of citizenship on African-Americans, becomes law May 10, 1866 U.S. House passes Republicans’ 14th Amendment guaranteeing due process and equal protection of the laws to all citizens; 100% of Democrats vote no June 8, 1866 U.S. Senate passes Republicans’ 14th Amendment guaranteeing due process and equal protection of the law to all citizens; 94% of Republicans vote yes and 100% of Democrats vote no January 8, 1867 Republicans override Democrat President Andrew Johnson’s veto of law granting voting rights to African-Americans in D.C. July 19, 1867 Republican Congress overrides Democrat President Andrew Johnson’s veto of legislation protecting voting rights of African-Americans March 30, 1868 Republicans begin impeachment trial of Democrat President Andrew Johnson, who declared: “This is a country for white men, and by God, as long as I am President, it shall be a government of white men” September 3, 1868 25 African-Americans in Georgia legislature, all Republicans, expelled by Democrat majority; later reinstated by Republican Congress September 12, 1868 Civil rights activist Tunis Campbell and all other African-Americans in Georgia Senate, every one a Republican, expelled by Democrat majority; would later be reinstated by Republican Congress October 7, 1868 Republicans denounce Democratic Party’s national campaign theme: “This is a white man’s country: Let white men rule” October 22, 1868 While campaigning for re-election, Republican U.S. Rep. James Hinds (R-AR) is assassinated by Democrat terrorists who organized as the Ku Klux Klan December 10, 1869 Republican Gov. John Campbell of Wyoming Territory signs FIRST-in-nation law granting women right to vote and to hold public office February 3, 1870 After passing House with 98% Republican support and 97% Democrat opposition, Republicans’ 15th Amendment is ratified, granting vote to all Americans regardless of race May 31, 1870 President U.S. Grant signs Republicans’ Enforcement Act, providing stiff penalties for depriving any American’s civil rights June 22, 1870 Republican Congress creates U.S. Department of Justice, to safeguard the civil rights of African-Americans against Democrats in the South September 6, 1870 Women vote in Wyoming, in FIRST election after women’s suffrage signed into law by Republican Gov. John Campbell February 28, 1871 Republican Congress passes Enforcement Act providing federal protection for African-American voters April 20, 1871 Republican Congress enacts the Ku Klux Klan Act, outlawing Democratic Party-affiliated terrorist groups which oppressed African-Americans October 10, 1871 Following warnings by Philadelphia Democrats against black voting, African-American Republican civil rights activist Octavius Catto murdered by Democratic Party operative; his military funeral was attended by thousands October 18, 1871 After violence against Republicans in South Carolina, President Ulysses Grant deploys U.S. troops to combat Democrat terrorists who formed the Ku Klux Klan November 18, 1872 Susan B. Anthony arrested for voting, after boasting to Elizabeth Cady Stanton that she voted for “the Republican ticket, straight” January 17, 1874 Armed Democrats seize Texas state government, ending Republican efforts to racially integrate government September 14, 1874 Democrat white supremacists seize Louisiana statehouse in attempt to overthrow racially-integrated administration of Republican Governor William Kellogg; 27 killed May 29, 1902 Virginia Democrats implement new state constitution, condemned by Republicans as illegal, reducing African-American voter registration by 86% February 12, 1909 On 100th anniversary of Abraham Lincoln’s birth, African-American Republicans and women’s suffragists Ida Wells and Mary Terrell co-found the NAACP May 21, 1919 Republican House passes constitutional amendment granting women the vote with 85% of Republicans in favor, but only 54% of Democrats; in Senate, 80% of Republicans would vote yes, but almost half of Democrats no August 18, 1920 Republican-authored 19th Amendment, giving women the vote, becomes part of Constitution; 26 of the 36 states to ratify had Republican-controlled legislatures January 26, 1922 House passes bill authored by U.S. Rep. Leonidas Dyer (R-MO) making lynching a federal crime; Senate Democrats block it with filibuster June 2, 1924 Republican President Calvin Coolidge signs bill passed by Republican Congress granting U.S. citizenship to all Native Americans October 3, 1924 Republicans denounce three-time Democrat presidential nominee William Jennings Bryan for defending the Ku Klux Klan at 1924 Democratic National Convention June 12, 1929 First Lady Lou Hoover invites wife of U.S. Rep. Oscar De Priest (R-IL), an African-American, to tea at the White House, sparking protests by Democrats across the country August 17, 1937 Republicans organize opposition to former Ku Klux Klansman and Democrat U.S. Senator Hugo Black, appointed to U.S. Supreme Court by FDR; his Klan background was hidden until after confirmation June 24, 1940 Republican Party platform calls for integration of the armed forces; for the balance of his terms in office, FDR refuses to order it September 30, 1953 Earl Warren, California’s three-term Republican Governor and 1948 Republican vice presidential nominee, nominated to be Chief Justice; wrote landmark decision in Brown v. Board of Education November 25, 1955 Eisenhower administration bans racial segregation of interstate bus travel March 12, 1956 Ninety-seven Democrats in Congress condemn Supreme Court’s decision in Brown v. Board of Education, and pledge to continue segregation June 5, 1956 Republican federal judge Frank Johnson rules in favor of Rosa Parks in decision striking down “blacks in the back of the bus” law November 6, 1956 African-American civil rights leaders Martin Luther King and Ralph Abernathy vote for Republican Dwight Eisenhower for President September 9, 1957 President Dwight Eisenhower signs Republican Party’s 1957 Civil Rights Act September 24, 1957 Sparking criticism from Democrats such as Senators John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson, President Dwight Eisenhower deploys the 82nd Airborne Division to Little Rock, AR to force Democrat Governor Orval Faubus to integrate public schools May 6, 1960 President Dwight Eisenhower signs Republicans’ Civil Rights Act of 1960, overcoming 125-hour, around-the-clock filibuster by 18 Senate Democrats May 2, 1963 Republicans condemn Democrat sheriff of Birmingham, AL for arresting over 2,000 African-American schoolchildren marching for their civil rights September 29, 1963 Gov. George Wallace (D-AL) defies order by U.S. District Judge Frank Johnson, appointed by President Dwight Eisenhower, to integrate Tuskegee High School June 9, 1964 Republicans condemn 14-hour filibuster against 1964 Civil Rights Act by U.S. Senator and former Ku Klux Klansman Robert Byrd (D-WV), who still serves in the Senate June 10, 1964 Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen (R-IL) criticizes Democrat filibuster against 1964 Civil Rights Act, calls on Democrats to stop opposing racial equality. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was introduced and approved by a staggering majority of Republicans in the Senate. The Act was opposed by most southern Democrat senators, several of whom were proud segregationists—one of them being Al Gore Sr. Democrat President Lyndon B. Johnson relied on Illinois Senator Everett Dirksen, the Republican leader from Illinois, to get the Act passed. August 4, 1965 Senate Republican Leader Everett Dirksen (R-IL) overcomes Democrat attempts to block 1965 Voting Rights Act; 94% of Senate Republicans vote for landmark civil right legislation, while 27% of Democrats oppose. Voting Rights Act of 1965, abolishing literacy tests and other measures devised by Democrats to prevent African-Americans from voting, signed into law; higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats vote in favor February 19, 1976 President Gerald Ford formally rescinds President Franklin Roosevelt’s notorious Executive Order authorizing internment of over 120,000 Japanese-Americans during WWII September 15, 1981 President Ronald Reagan establishes the White House Initiative on Historically Black Colleges and Universities, to increase African-American participation in federal education programs June 29, 1982 President Ronald Reagan signs 25-year extension of 1965 Voting Rights Act August 10, 1988 President Ronald Reagan signs Civil Liberties Act of 1988, compensating Japanese-Americans for deprivation of civil rights and property during World War II internment ordered by FDR November 21, 1991 President George H. W. Bush signs Civil Rights Act of 1991 to strengthen federal civil rights legislation August 20, 1996 Bill authored by U.S. Rep. Susan Molinari (R-NY) to prohibit racial discrimination in adoptions, part of Republicans’ Contract With America, becomes law |
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Islamic Court, Wife Beating: UAE (United Arab Emirates) Federal Supreme Court Okay if Leaves No Physical Marks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp3Eam5FX58&feature=player_embedded UAE Islamic Court, Wife Beating: United Arab Emirates Federal Supreme Court Okay if Leaves No Physical Marks (Cuts & Bruises) The United Arab Emirates Federal Supreme Court has given official permission for men to beat their wives in line with Islamic tradition. A man may beat his wife and young children as long as the beating leaves no physical marks. This follows on the heels of prominent Islamic scholars who have voiced similar opinions. It might be pointed out that even in Western society wife beating was legal in some circumstances and locations in the United States for example until explicitly outlawed in 1870. The UAE ruling specifies that no physical marks may be left, though this leaves open questions of the degree that this entails. This is in contrast to a UAE case in which a man who left cuts & bruises on wife & adult daughter which was ruled criminal, specifically “guilty of harming” the women, but not of the disciplinary action itself. Posted on October 19th, 2010 http://www.supermediablog.com/news/islamic-court-wife-beating-uae-united-arab-emirates-federal-supreme-court-leaves-no-physical-marks/ In Africa in certain countries, witch hunting is just another thing. They throw the women accused of witchcraft into a pit filled with hay and turn them on fire and watch them burn alive. United States is not invading Africa and there aren't "spreading democracy" there. In Papua New Guinea, cannibalism is still around. Sometimes they eat the recently deceased. United States is not invading New Guinea, to spread democracy. In Cambodia, there is an ongoing war against Thailand, where schools are torched along with the students because they "represent the Thai government". United States in not invading Cambodia to spread democracy. . .. ... .... ...... The United Arab Emirates, along with Saudi Arabia are considered "friendly" with USA, even Bush had a nice tongue kiss with the Saudi ruler back in 2003. How ironic. The only reason you continue to post issues related to the Middle East is because of your hatred against Muslims, it has little to do with human rights violation or anything like that, it's just easy to pick on an issue such as their law system, which is flawed by all means, but I doubt you really care about Arab women's human rights anyway, since they are "Muslims", just like the men there, so I really doubt that you care at all anyway, so it's good to selectively find news about the Muslims, because it's alien to you and you are just afraid. Make sure you check under your bed before you go to sleep, there might be a Muslim hiding there trying to kill you. This is about hatred???What a cop out statement!The fact that Willing started this post to begin with shows he is concerned about the fact that women are being beaten and wants things changed.Before you take action on issues such as these you first have the make the public aware that they are happening.The fact you are using third world countries laws in defending this practice doesn't justify anything.I don't think men should be allowed to beat their women anywhere in the world for any reason.I don't want to play big brother police man for the world but I can speak my voice and opposition for this practice and tell the world I don't support it. I'm sure I speak for everyone who is against this beating law when I say if someone wanted to ban this practice I would gladly vote for it along with banning Sharia law no matter what country it is practiced.That is taking action and thanks to people like Willing we are aware of laws such as Sharia and what they are about. These issues don't have anything to do with spreading Democracy.They are about what is right and wrong.Treating women like garbage and beating them for any excuse is wrong.The fact that Islam is the main driving force for these laws is stupid to ignore. I can only imagine how those women feel under Islamic law in third world countries who have the privilege of a computer and internet.How sad it must be for them to read statements from Americans saying beatings should be allowed because you are there and we are here.Seems Republican Christians are their best hope because Atheist,liberal,Democrats sure the hell aren't even going to bring the issue to light.They want to bury it. |
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It's getting easier for me to see now why Democrats fought civil rights laws in the past.
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The King james bible is the best when it comes to being as closely translated from the original text.It is probably this reason it is also the most popular version.
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This probably should be in the jokes section which is how I feel with the majority of these idiotic posts.
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