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This may help.
(I checked to be sure it lines up with Scriptures before sharing.) http://www.gotquestions.org/fate-destiny.html 
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Sun 02/19/12 04:27 PM
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GOD has Created us All with a Purpose ...
but our purpose is NOT Pre-destined by God.... God just gave all a purpose and KNOWS what we will do with that out our purpose...HOW we will carry that purpose out.... |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Sun 02/19/12 03:33 PM
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Our actions are NOT predestined by God.....
God gave man FREE WILL... However,our actions are alreay KNOWN by God ...even before they have even taken place in our earth time. God is OUTSIDE of Time....God is Eternal...but God is even outside of Eternity....(God created Everything including Time and Eternity ). God will influence...DRAW....and has even given each man a certain measure of Faith to HELP man to know God.....but God will NOT EVER go against man's free will..... but again,God already KNOWS what man will do with his free will... God even KNEW before any of us were born....God even already knew then. God is able to KNOW all things already about our lives and what we will do........ God knows the END from the beginning ,and the beginning from the end. Again... God is OUTSIDE of Time. The Scripture that says, Jesus was slain from the very foundations of the World..... this scripture alone shows that God KNOWS all things already . But God's knowing already about all things, still does NOT take away from our Free will....God just KNOWS what we will do with our free will before we even do it....even before we were born God KNOWS.... Once again..... God is OUTSIDE of Time and is ETERNAL.... and GOD KNOWS the END already from the BEGINNING....and the beginning from the end.... but that does NOT mean we were Predestined .
ps...haven't had time to read all the thread yet, just in case this has already been covered .
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And if we in Christ
think it is we who speak or we who are something, then all we've become is just the biggest fool.
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I agree .
((((((( Ruth))))))
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Johnmontell...this link is for you :
there is preaching..there is teaching... and then there is just speaking as the Holy Spirit gives utterance. http://peoplegetready.org/end-times/god-pour-spirit-days/ |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Sun 02/19/12 01:34 AM
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Ok Sin_and_Sorrow :
WHY would people fall for a serpent seed doctrine? Because they became more enthralled with the "man with the MESSAGES " ( and that PARTICULAR man's INTERPRETATION of God's Word ),rather THAN With SEEKING The Holy Spirit LED Interpretation of The Word of God ...and STUDYING The Word for Oneself. Also ,The " man with the messages" was also a great miracle worker and healer ....but yet TAUGHT SEVERAL ERRONEOUS TEACHINGSS...THAT WENT CONTRARY TO THE WORD OF GOD...ONE BEING THE SERPENT SEED DOCTRINE. His followers today are called the" Message Followers"(who also believe in this serpent seed doctrine). His teachings run CONTRARY to the what The Word of God has taught. THAt IS WHY WE MUST KEEP OUR EYES ON GOD AND NOT ON MAN... FOR MAN IS NOT PERFECT AND WILL ERR.... And this is what the man behind the messages did..he made mistakes, despite his great giftings....and messed up and got into grave error and false teaching. And those who follow a man of errors, will also get into errors. http://www.midwestoutreach.org/journals/branham_tree.html |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Sat 02/18/12 08:31 PM
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How?
Because false teachers will also mix in some TRUTH with their FALSE TWISTED teaching....that is how. To make it palatable. They SOUND VERY persuasive and ARE persuasive....they sound just like the "Real Deal." THAT is how. And that is why one must be born again, and be Indwelt by the Holy Spirit , in order that one may be able to recognize if what is being taught is Truth or Error. And one MUST ALSO KNOW SCRIPTURES !!! TO KNOW IF WHAT IS BEING TAUGHT,ACTUALLY LINES UP WITH THE WORD OF GOD OR NOT!!! Cause False teachers will say that THEY have the Truth instead of True Believers ...again....this is why one has to be born again..and also KNOW THE SCRIPTURES...in order to be able to recognize the difference. Again...false teachers teach some TRUTH also....not all is error that they teach. But here's the thing: False teachers will say the EXACT SAME THING ABOUT TRUE BELIEVERS ,that true beleivers are saying about the cults.....the false teachers are actually calling the true believers the false teachers......and are able to twist scriptures in such a way as to fool those in the cults, into actually falling for these false teschings. THAT is HOW. See what I am saying, Sin_and_Sorrow? THAT is HOW those in cults are sooooo fooled into staying....until God opens their eyes and they truly become born again, that is...and then God eventually pulls them OUT of the cults. But once someone is TRULY born again, Thank God for The Holy Sprit Indwellng that true believer now...becaause The Holy Spirit will let the believer KNOW if and when something they are hearing is a STRANGE GOSPEL that is "OFF", or not. God said ,' My sheep KNOW my voice, and a voice of a strangeer they will NOT follow ." God's sheep are able to recognize false teachers....and will flee from them. But God's sheep will also pray for those in false cults....and not condemn them...and will try and help to correct them.....but usually to no avail( and that is why the best thing to do is just pray for them)...... However, those in cults will always CONDEMN those who are not in agreement with them.....( you will know them by ther fruits)...... but if believers earnestly pray for those in cults, God will slso lead them out..and unto where the real gospel is being preached. Amen.
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Johnmontell and Marrion....
I will be praying for you both... and will leave it at that. |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Sat 02/18/12 02:11 PM
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Ruth,I am earnestly praying and believing for the
people who are exposed to this serpent seed teaching ,to get delivered OUT of this false teaching. |
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God doesn't hate sex. Nor did he mean for it to be used only for procreation. The same with food. Food serves a purpose and a need greater than just caloric consumption. God condemns the misuse of both food and sex. Too much of anything causes an imbalance which has negative consequences. Such is not my belief. In the original post to this thread, I asked two questions. One was answered via God being vague. The other, has not. Regardless, and despite an apple being a fruit. Both irrelevant, and for the sake of argument we just say 'apple'. Truth is, I love pomegranates, so I'd like to think it was one of those. According to this CHRISTIAN belief, called the SERPENT SEED: God HATES fornication. God purposely created the Devil. God knew man would 'fail' and set him up to do so purposely. God is a sociopath. Period. That's what this version states. I don't agree with any of that nonsense, because that is literally against what the Bible ITSELF says. Yet this is apparently why I am 'insignificant'. WEATHER IT IS YOUR BELIEF OR NOT, DOES NOT CHANGES THE STANDARD OF GOD, AND IT IS WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE, SO AT THE TIME WHEN YOU WILL BE JUDGE , THIS VERY DISCUASSION WILL STAND AGAINST YOU, BCOS YOU DELIBERATLY HARDEN YOUR HEART NOT TO HEED TO THE WORD OF GOD, IF IT IS NOT IN THE BIBLE, THAT IS DIFFERENT, BUT IF IT IS IN THE BIBLE, YOU HAVE NO EXCUSE Your serpet seed teaching just twists and misconscrues what scriptures are really saying. Nuff said. |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Sat 02/18/12 01:28 PM
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Marrion , God made all things to reproduce after its own kind. Period. God's Word does not change. Also, only Noah and his family were left AFTER the flood. Period. |
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Premise 1 is incorrect. Both Adam and Eve did die, so have all of their decedents. God did not say they would die immediately, just that they would die. It was Satan who assured Eve that she would not die who lied. For Sin_and_Sorrow: When Adam and Eve disobeyed God, Adam and Eve INSTANTLY DIED SPIRITUALLY ...the spiirtual death was RIGHT AWAY.... BUT the physical death just took longer..... BUT when we are BORN AGAIN(thru believing and accepting Jesus as Saviour) our spirits are made alive once more.
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Sat 02/18/12 04:50 AM
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Marrion and Johnmontell....Nazis also followed this false dangerous doctrine.
I realize you both, along with other followes of this dangerous doctrine ,are not aware you have been greatly decieved by this false teaching.
In fact, I know that if any oppose this serpent seed teaching, they are told they are a kenite( of the devil seed)....and are made to feel like an outcast...and are terribly rejected by the rest of the group, and treated like the devil himself.
That is why so many in this cult cannot leave....because they are actually condemned to hell as a devil ,and are so rejected by others in the cult, that they stay in the cult and say nothing, in order to not be an outcast by others in the cult.
And any who do leave the cult,are treated as outcasts for life....and are looked upon as the devil's seed , and are also told that they can never be saved by God ever..because they are told they are of the devil and God will never ever save them ...and so therefore, those people who leave are condemened with no hope forever.
they are told since they leave, it is proof that they are of the devil....and are condemned thru the misuse of scriptures against them.
Marrion and Johnmontell.....do you undersand why this is now such a dangerous cult you are involved in? I know you 2 are sincerely beleiving you two have the Truth...when you are in fact, not even aware that you both have fallen for a terrible deception.
I can only pray. This is how the enemy works....he deceives many..and puts precious peope into this horrific religious bondage to this false teaching from the pits of hell.
Hitler and The Nazis followed this horrific false doctrine..that is why they were so able to be decieved by Hitler into killing 6 million jews..they were lied to, and told they were killing jews who were the devil's seed.....and now you two have fallen for that same lie.
I can only pray..and I will pray that you two, as well as all people involved in this cult,will be deliveved from this false teaching. The Shepherd's Chapel is another group that teaches this heresy also. [1]NAZI THEOLOGY According to Nazi/Satanic Theology, Eve did have sex with the "Serpent", the devil, and gave birth to Cain. This teaching then twists the Bible, just as a swastika twists the cross as it says Cain's Line survived the Great Flood and the Jews and the blacks are the children of Satan, "serpent seed". Hitler believed that when he "cleansed" the earth of the "serpent seed", the Aryan super gods would return to earth, set up the Golden Age of Mankind and anoint Hitler as "king of the world".
......... Question: "What is the Serpent Seed doctrine?" Answer: The serpent seed doctrine is a belief based on poor biblical interpretation and superstition. It is a primary doctrinal resource for those who want to use Scriptures to justify racial prejudice. The serpent seed doctrine is also closely related to other erroneous beliefs such as the Christian Identity Movement and the Kenite doctrine. Like many false beliefs, it has a built-in defense mechanism; that is, anyone who disagrees with it is accused of being a son of the serpent. One of the most unfortunate problems with the serpent seed doctrine is that is so heavily relies on prejudice and warped biblical interpretation that it can be very difficult to discuss rationally. Simply stated, the serpent seed doctrine teaches that the sin of Eve was not simple disobedience, but sexual contact with the serpent, and that Cain was the son of Eve and the devil. Cain’s descendants are, according to this idea, the sons of Satan, and this includes most any race or group that the serpent-seed believer chooses to dislike. This idea is rooted in superstitious beliefs and is particularly popular with white supremacists and anti-Semites; the Unification Church also supports this idea. Noted false prophets and false teachers such as Arnold Murray of Shepherd’s Chapel and William Branham espoused the idea. Although an idea should not be criticized when it is wrongly applied, it is appropriate to condemn an idea when it logically leads to sin. A philosophy that teaches that some races or people are universally satanic, like the serpent seed doctrine, is one such philosophy. Those who support serpent-seed ideas cite many passages in the Bible as proof that their idea is correct. Almost without exception, these “proofs” require an interpretation that is totally inappropriate to the context of the passage. For example, Genesis 3:13 is often cited, with the claim that the word translated “beguiled” in the King James Version really meant “seduced.” Context and scholarship would disagree. Proverbs 30:20 metaphorically compares eating and sexual immorality; this is greatly overstated by the serpent-seed believer as proof that the Fall was sexual. Other passages include Jude 1:14, and the parable of the tares in Matthew chapter 13. Those who believe in the serpent seed doctrine teach that Jesus’ description of the “children of the devil” in this parable is true in a biological sense. Again, only one who is trying to force this belief into the Bible will see it this way; it is not naturally read out of Scripture. There are literally dozens of places in the Bible where this false idea has been wedged in, yet every single one requires a person to believe in the serpent-seed idea beforehand. Only by reading a passage and saying, “If you assume that the serpent seed doctrine is true, then this means…” can a person support this false philosophy. For this reason, arguing against the serpent seed doctrine can be difficult. Those who believe it interpret Scripture through a sort of “serpent-seed lens,” and are not likely to accept other interpretations, no matter how well supported by context and scholarship. There are some basic questions and contradictions inherent to the serpent seed doctrine that can be used to demonstrate its lack of truth. For example, Galatians 3:28 clearly states that race and gender have no impact on our standing with God. Second Peter 3:9 says that God wants everyone to be saved, not “everyone but the children of Cain.” Nowhere in Scripture is anyone identified as a “Kenite” or condemned based on being from Cain’s lineage. Never are we warned about such people by the New Testament writers. Also ,there is the question of how or why such persons survived the flood. The doctrine supposes that original sin was sexual, but cannot explain why the whole remainder of the Bible lays out a worldview where the original sin was disobedience, not sexuality. This philosophy is most unfortunate in that it leads directly and logically to two main problems. Racism is by far the worst; believing that certain races are irredeemable has no positive application. The only possible outcome of such a worldview is prejudice and bigotry. There is also a tendency to dismiss critics of the serpent seed doctrine as being the very “Kenites” the philosophy believes in. Arnold Murray is particularly guilty of this abuse. Fortunately for believers, God has given us a resource in Scripture that can show us the truth. We need only read it with unbiased and open eyes to find true wisdom. ...................................................
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Fri 02/17/12 06:19 PM
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The scripture about not judging was directed to
BELIEVERS,not Unbelievers...... Believers were NEVER told to JUDGE Unbelievers....
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In Jer 1:5, God says “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I dedicated you, a prophet to the nations I appointed you.” This scripture plainly says that God knew Jeremiah before he was even born. It follows that God knows all of us too...even before we were even born yet.
Also..God does not condemn those who have had abortions ....but forgives ...because it is only the entrance of God's Word ,that can illuminate the Truth to us and help us to see anyway ... but until then, we are NOT to condemn those who do not see yet...but we are to just get the gospel out in the right spirit of LOVE...and to PRAY for all..and LET GOD do the rest. "The Entrance of Thy Word Gives Light." "Jesus did not Come to Condemn the World But to Save the World". Amen.
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Fri 02/17/12 05:24 PM
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MARRION WROTE AND I QUOTE:
Every good father has a rule that guide his house, every government has it's law, and every land or country has it's constitution,
dus the God of heaven has created man in his own likeness so a purpose ,Gen 1: 27, and the plan of God to mankind is best known to God, Romans 8 : 26 -29 , although everybody claims to come from God, but we know that everybody is not from God, there are children of satan and they know very well that they are from that wicked one. The supreme God is omnipotent Romans 8 : 26 -29, omniscience, omnipresence, Bible is written mind of God and the Book of genesis and revelation are written but coded with symbols, making it impossible for anybody who is not his own seed to read and understand it, [mark 4:12] and for any of his seed to read and understand it, he or she must have the holyghost in order to decode what is written therein, so wheather you believe his existence or not does not affect him, or move his quality, conserning the tree which the serpent decieved eve to eat was a sex for pleasure he introduce to the woman [eve] it is all written there in the Bible, but except your eyes is open to see it, if you like sleep on top of the bible , you will never understand it, although it is written there boldly, Satan through that upright Animal called serpent , introduce sex for pleasure to the woman, thereby planting his own seed first before the second seed which is from her husband [Adam] in other to corrupt the sowing field which is the [eve] bcos God want them to muiltiply and bring children after their type, the bone of contention is the woman, why? bcos she is the field to reproduce young one's of their type, and the man Adam has the seed that should be planted, but satan through that animal corrupt the field, [the woman] now any man born of a woman has that animal nature in his or her, and for God to redeem his own seed back, he need not to go through the same corrupt field, that is why a virgin shall concieve and give birth to a boy, and his name shall be called Jesus for he shall save his people from their sin, Jesus mean [Jehova saves] (1 Corinthians 15:45] now God knows all these things will happen, how do you know that he knows all this things, (John 1:29) and [Rev. 13:8] Jesus before he was born, he was already been slain before the foundation of the world, all knowing God has his plan for his children that is why jesus came to redeem only the elect of God whose name was writting before the foundation of the world.Romans. 8:29. i will stop here because it the teaching of the children of God , not arguement , no, bcos he that has ear surppose to hear, likewise he that has eyes should see it, but .....for his own alone was the plan of redemption made for. Marrion, you are preaching what is known as the SERPENT SEED HERESY !!!
IT IS A VERY DANGEROUS AND FALSE TEACHING....A HORRIBLE HERESY THAT TEACHES THAT JEWS AND EVEN SOME BLACKS AMONG OTHERS ,ARE BORN OF THE DEVIL .... THIS KIND OF HORRIBLE TEACHING IS THE ENEMY'S ATTEMPT TO DISTORT THE GOSPEL IN THESE LAST DAYS...AND THEREFORE ,IS ONE OF THE MAIN TACTICS THE ENEMY USES , TO TURN MANY AWAY FROM THE REAL TRUTH OF THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST..... THIS SERPET SEED HERESY IS JUST ONE OF MANY FALSE TEACHINGS CIRCULATING OUT THERE..AND HAS EVEN NOW SNEAKED INTO SOME CHURCHES , AND SOME HAVE ACTUALLY FALLEN FOR THIS LIE FROM THE PITS OF HELL !!!!!!
THIS FALSE DANGEROUS TEACHINGE IS ONE OF THE WORST.....AND IS NOT SCRIPTURAL AT ALL, BUT ONLY TWISTS AND MISUSES SCRIPTURE !!! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LISTEN,MARRION....AND RUN FROM THIS SERPENT SEED HERESY !!! GET YOURSELF FREE FROM THIS VERY DANGEROUS TEACHING, PLEASE I BEG OF YOU !!! IT DESTROYS ....AND IT IS VERY DANGEROUS AND SICK.
I AM PRAYING GOD WILL REVEAL THE TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD TO YOU , AND GET YOU OUT OF THIS DANGEROUS TEACHING, IN JESUS NAME I PRAY, AMEN. WHEN I FIRST CAME ON HERE , SOMEONE ELSE ALSO WAS TRYING TO TEACH THIS HERESY ALSO..BUT HE WOKE UP AND GOT SET FREE FROM THIS DESTRUCTIVE TEACHING....THANK GOD !!! IT IS A HATE TEACHING TOWARDS JEWS AND CERTAIN BLACKS !! PLEASE LISTEN !!! PRAYING YOU WILL GET SET FREE TOO NOW.
THE LINKS BELOW GIVE SOME INFO ON THIS DANGEROUS TEACHING THAT IS NOT FROM GOD.......AND ONLY CAUSES SEPARATION AND DIS-UNITY IN THE BODY OF CHRIST:
AND ALSO TO OTHERS....GOD IS NOT TO BLAME FOR ALL THE CRAP THAT GOES ON IN THE WORLD....IT IS THE ENEMY OF OUR SOULS WHO IS AT WORK DOING THIS.. .. THE ENEMY WANTS TO TURN MANY AWAY FROM THE GOSPEL.... THE RISE OF FALSE TEACHINGS IS ALSO FROM THE ENEMY, AND IS ALSO A WAY TO FURTHER DISTORT THE GOSPEL.....ALL THIS CONFUSED FALSE TEACHINGS AND THE MOVE OF DANGEROUS RELIGIOUS SPIRTS ON THE RISE ,ARE ALL THE WORKS OF THE ENEMY ...ALL MEANT TO KEEP THE TRUE GOSPEL FROM GOING FORTH. HERE ARE THE LINKS BELOW,THAT CLEARLY SHOW THAT THIS TEACHING DOES NOT NOT NOT COME FROM GOD AT ALL. I AM PRAYING , MARRION, THAT YOU AND OTHERS IN THIS DANGEROUS FALSE MOVEMENT,WILL BE SET FREE NOW, IN JESUS NAME I PRAY, AMEN.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpent_seed http://stevenmcollins.com/html/serpent_seed_heresy.html |
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Topic:
How To Stop The Rapture
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IF you read the bible, you will see LOTS of stuff
happens between the 2 events. READ up on a subject FIRST, Cowboy...STUDY the subjest FIRST that is being discussed, BEFORE posting on the subject. Last bit of advice I am offering now. It's all Up to you now...what you do. |
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Topic:
How To Stop The Rapture
Edited by
MorningSong
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Fri 02/17/12 08:40 AM
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Revelation 21
1And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. Cowboy,this above, does NOT take place simultaneously WITH the rapture. Read the bible.....this is all false info you are sharing on here. Will you please listen fro once? Now you're just trying to find things to show you being smarter then me on this stuff. I NEVER said the new heaven and earth was simutaneous with the rapture and all. Well Cowboy ....I was going by what you had posted just a few minutes earlier. you posted this earlier: And we won't mention the corrections I have made for you including but not limited to my post prior to this one. It is true the rapture and the second coming are not the exact same thing. BUT THEY WILL HAPPEN SIMUTANEOUSLY. There is no time specified between the two.
And just now, you say You NEVERI said the new heaven and earth was simutaneous with the rapture and all. And these contradictions have happened a lot in your posts. |
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