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How To Stop The Rapture
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Almost EVERY post of yours has been false over the
past 3 years. No one can make you listen. Oh well.... Carry on....post as you wish..I will not bother anymore. Take care. |
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How To Stop The Rapture
Edited by
MorningSong
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Fri 02/17/12 08:28 AM
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Cowboy wrote:
And we won't mention the corrections I have made for you including but not limited to my post prior to this one. It is true the rapture and the second coming are not the exact same thing. But they will happen simotaneously. There is no time specified between the two. And yes the rest of world will be destroyed. That is why a new Earth and Heaven is made. For there would be no need for a new Earth or Heaven if the first was not destroyed in one way or other. Revelation 21 1And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. Cowboy,you may THINK you are right and therefore THINK you are CORRECTING me... but you are NOT right according to scriptures.......what you post does NOT line up with scriptures at all. Read the bible.....this is all false info you are sharing on here. The new heaven and new earth do NOT simultaneously happen at the same time as the rapture. Will you please listen for once, and study the Word first , before posting ? |
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How To Stop The Rapture
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MorningSong
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Fri 02/17/12 08:01 AM
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Hell is a temporary holding place, it's not ment to be eternal. Satan was placed there until Judgement. And NO satan was not placed there til Judment....Satan is NOT there yet !!! Satan LIKE a roaring lion, seeketh whom he may devour. STUDY THE WORD !! |
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Topic:
How To Stop The Rapture
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MorningSong
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Fri 02/17/12 07:44 AM
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Cowboy wrote"
Judgement and the rapture still will happen simotaneously. God's children will be taken home and the rest of the world will be destroyed. Does not state that God's children will be taken to Heaven then 100 years later .. ect ect. Does not give any specified reference to time between the rapture and the judgement. So with no time being specified it would be safe to assume they happen simotaneously, again because there is not time frame mentioned between the two. NO COWBOY...THE REST OF THE WORLD WILL NOT BE DESTROYED AT THE RAPTURE!!!!!!! STUDY THE WORD BEFORE POSTING YOUR CRAP ON HERE !!!!! THAT IS WHERE FUNCHES GOT HIS FALSE TEACHING ON THE RAPTURE...FROM YOUR 3 YEARS OF FALSE TEACHING ON HERE !!!! I AM SICK OF IT!!! |
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How To Stop The Rapture
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Question: "Did Jesus go to hell between His death and resurrection?" There is a great deal of confusion in regards to this question. This concept comes primarily from the Apostles' Creed, which states, “He descended into hell.” There are also a few Scriptures which, depending on how they are translated, describe Jesus going to “hell.” In studying this issue, it is important to first understand what the Bible teaches about the realm of the dead. In the Hebrew Scriptures, the word used to describe the realm of the dead is sheol. It simply means the “place of the dead” or the “place of departed souls/spirits.” The New Testament Greek word that is used for hell is “hades,” which also refers to “the place of the dead.” Other Scriptures in the New Testament indicate that sheol/hades is a temporary place, where souls are kept as they await the final resurrection and judgment. Revelation 20:11-15 gives a clear distinction between the two. Hell (the lake of fire) is the permanent and final place of judgment for the lost. Hades is a temporary place. So, no, Jesus did not go to hell because hell is a future realm, only put into effect after the Great White Throne Judgment (Revelation 20:11-15). Sheol/hades is a realm with two divisions (Matthew 11:23, 16:18; Luke 10:15, 16:23; Acts 2:27-31), the abodes of the saved and the lost. The abode of the saved was called “paradise” and “Abraham's bosom.” The abodes of the saved and the lost are separated by a “great chasm” (Luke 16:26). When Jesus ascended to heaven, He took the occupants of paradise (believers) with Him (Ephesians 4:8- 10). The lost side of sheol/hades has remained unchanged. All unbelieving dead go there awaiting their final judgment in the future. Did Jesus go to sheol/hades? Yes, according to Ephesians 4:8-10 and 1 Peter 3:18-20. Some of the confusion has arisen from such passages as Psalm 16:10- 11 as translated in the King James Version, “For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption....Thou wilt show me the path of life.” “Hell” is not a correct translation of this verse. A correct reading would be “the grave” or “sheol.” Jesus said to the thief beside Him, “Today you will be with me in paradise” (Luke 23:43). Jesus’ body was in the tomb; His soul/spirit went to the “paradise” side of sheol/hades. He then removed all the righteous dead from paradise and took them with Him to heaven. Unfortunately, in many translations of the Bible, translators are not consistent, or correct, in how they translate the Hebrew and Greek words for “sheol,” “hades,” and “hell.” Some have the viewpoint that Jesus went to “hell” or the suffering side of sheol/hades in order to further be punished for our sins. This idea is completely unbiblical. It was the death of Jesus on the cross and His suffering in our place that sufficiently provided for our redemption. It was His shed blood that effected our own cleansing from sin (1 John 1:7-9). As He hung there on the cross, He took the sin burden of the whole human race upon Himself. He became sin for us: “God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God” (2 Corinthians 5:21). This imputation of sin helps us understand Christ's struggle in the garden of Gethsemane with the cup of sin which would be poured out upon Him on the cross. When Jesus cried upon the cross, “Oh, Father, why have you forsaken me?” (Matthew 27:46), it was then that He was separated from the Father because of the sin poured out upon Him. As He gave up His spirit, He said, “Father, into your hands I commit my spirit” (Luke 23:46). His suffering in our place was completed. His soul/spirit went to the paradise side of hades. Jesus did not go to hell. Jesus’ suffering ended the moment He died. The payment for sin was paid. He then awaited the resurrection of His body and His return to glory in His ascension. Did Jesus go to hell? No. Did Jesus go to sheol/hades? Yes.  |
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Topic:
How To Stop The Rapture
Edited by
MorningSong
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Fri 02/17/12 07:15 AM
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Funches wrote: I was giving one example...but if you choose to be specific.....what if 100s of thousands of Christians are driving and all were killed and removed at the same time ...imagine how many others people will be killed by their vehicles Cowboy responded to Funches with: lol, Funches. When Judgement comes, it will be SIMULTANEOUSLY. Christians, muslims, buddhists, atheists, ect will ALL be judged SIMULTANEOUSLY. Will not be given a court date to show up for. And I said: Cowboy,Funches is talking abou the rapture,not the judgment. |
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How To Stop The Rapture
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The Second Coming is not the rapture....2 different events.
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How To Stop The Rapture
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Cowboy,Funches is talking about the rapture,not the judgment.
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Khan ,I know the Quran tells about Jesus.
 And btw,We are not on here to judge another persons religion. if someone does, just be the bigger person and overlook that person and move on. because There are lots of wonderful people on this forum who do NOT judge ...but love and care for one another on here...,and accept each other differences...including different relgions. And so do I..even though I will still share mine with others.
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Happy Valentine's Day !
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MorningSong
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Fri 02/17/12 04:13 AM
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JohnMontell.........let's say you meet a beautiful
Godly woman and fall in love with her and get married. Well, The Godly love between you two should then come first. But the falling in love (EMOTIONAL love) you two would share, would be important too..as well as the physical love...as long as your Love for each other was kept in the CONFOUNDS of MARRIAGE. See what I am saying?? You would want to have a romantic love in your marriage too..Amen? Point being then...there would be nothing wrong with giving your beautiful wife a valentine card or flowers on valentine's day,to celebrate your EMOTIONAL love and PHYSICAL Love , AS WELl AS The GODLY LOVE you have for her. All 3 types of LOVE are VERY IMPORTANT in marriage. God is not opposed to a man and a woman loving each other in a romantic way , as long as GOD'S LOVE COMES FIRST . |
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Khan...don't let religion separate us....let God Unite
Us ALL in LOVE. THAt is what God wants...LOVE among all people....not hate and separation. |
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MorningSong
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Fri 02/17/12 03:43 AM
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I am not here to fight with you.i can reject your claim by quran.deny me on bibile if you can.how you can deny me .what you read its not an original bibile. Khan....read the Holy Bible too, not just the Quran......go read the book of John3:16 in the new testament: John 3:16 For God SO LOVED the world, that HE GAVE His only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM should not perish, but have EVERLASTING LIFE. Khan...whosoever means ANY ONE ..that means YOU too. God is about LOVE....and LOVES You and LOVES ALL of us...... and wants to Live in ALL our hearts...not just in some christians hearts. Jesus is for the WHOLE WIDE WORLD....for everyone....no matter what religion that person is in. When we believe and receive Jesus into our hearts, Jesus SAVES us and brings us back into Right RELATIONSHIP With GOD. Yes...Jesus loves you too Khan. He came for you too. Jesus came for the whole wide world. |
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Topic:
How To Stop The Rapture
Edited by
MorningSong
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Fri 02/17/12 01:44 AM
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Here is More on just The RAPTURE:
The word “rapture” does not occur in the Bible. The concept of the rapture, though, is clearly taught in Scripture. The rapture of the church is the event in which God removes all believers from the earth in order to make way for His righteous judgment to be poured out on the earth during the tribulation period. The rapture is described primarily in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 and 1 Corinthians 15:50-54. God will resurrect all believers who have died, give them glorified bodies, and take them from the earth, along with those believers who are still alive and who will at that time also be given glorified bodies. “For the Lord Himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever” (1Thessalonians 4:16-17). The rapture will be instantaneous in nature, and we will receive glorified bodies at that time. “Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed—in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed” (1 Corinthians 15:51-52). The rapture is the glorious event we should all be longing for. We will finally be free from sin. We will be in God's presence forever. There is far too much debate over the meaning and scope of the rapture. This is not God’s intent. Rather, in regard to the rapture, God wants us to “encourage each other with these words” (1 Thessalonians 4:18).(gotquestions.org)
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Topic:
How To Stop The Rapture
Edited by
MorningSong
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Fri 02/17/12 01:30 AM
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The Rapture according to Funches :
shows great filmmaking talent. Now...here is The Rapture (and also the Second Coming )according to SCRIPTURES:  ............... The rapture and the second coming of Christ are often confused. Sometimes it is difficult to determine whether a scripture verse is referring to the rapture or the second coming. However, in studying end-times Bible prophecy, it is very important to differentiate between the two. The rapture is when Jesus Christ returns to REMOVE the church (all believers in Christ) from the earth. The rapture is described in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 and 1 Corinthians 15:50-54. Believers who have died will have their bodies RESURRECTED and, ALONG WITH BELIEVERS WHO ARE STILL LIVING, will MEET THE LORD IN THE AIR. This will all occur in a moment, in a TWINKLING OF AN EYE. HOWEVER..... The SECOND COMING is when JESUS RETURNS to DEFEAT THE ANTI- CHRIST, DESTROY EVIL, and ESTABLISH HIS MILLENNIAL KINGDOM. The second coming is described in Revelation 19:11-16 The important differences between the rapture and second coming are as follows: 1) At the rapture, believers MEET the Lord IN THE AIR (1 Thessalonians 4:17). At the second coming, believers return WITH the Lord TO the earth (Revelation 19:14). 2) The second coming occurs AFTER the great and terrible tribulation (Revelation chapters 6–19). The rapture occurs BEFORE the tribulation (1 Thessalonians 5:9; Revelation 3:10). 3) The rapture is the removal of believers from the earth as an act of deliverance (1 Thessalonians 4:13-17, 5:9). The second coming includes the removal of unbelievers as an act of judgment (Matthew 24:40-41). 4) The rapture will be secret and instant (1 Corinthians 15:50-54). The second coming will be visible to all (Revelation 1:7; Matthew 24:29-30). 5) The second coming of Christ will not occur until after certain other end-times events take place (2 Thessalonians 2:4; Matthew 24:15-30; Revelation chapters 6–18). The rapture is imminent; it could take place at any moment (Titus 2:13; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-8; 1 Corinthians 15:50-54). Why is it important to keep the rapture and the second coming distinct? 1) If the rapture and the second coming are the same event, believers will have to go through the tribulation (1 Thessalonians 5:9; Revelation 3:10). 2) If the rapture and the second coming are the same event, the return of Christ is not imminent—there are many things which must occur before He can return (Matthew 24:4-30). 3) In describing the tribulation period, Revelation chapters 6–19 nowhere mentions the church. During the tribulation—also called “the time of trouble for Jacob” (Jeremiah 30:7)—God will again turn His primary attention to Israel (Romans 11:17-31). The rapture and second coming are similar BUT separate events. Both involve Jesus returning. Both are end-times events. However, it is crucially important to recognize the differences. In summary, the rapture is the return of Christ in the clouds to remove all believers from the earth before the time of God’s wrath. The second coming is the return of Christ to the earth to bring the tribulation to an end and to defeat the Antichrist and his evil world empire.(gotquestions.org) |
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" What the World Needs Now
Is Love ...God's Love No Not Just For Some But For Everyone ...."
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what religion means?
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Mejdi ,I know that there are many wonderful muslim
people.......and that not all muslims are radical people. I know some muslims and they are very kind wonderful people . I love the muslim people too . So does God. The right girl for you will understand that not all muslims are radical people. God Bless You and I Pray you find the right lady for you.
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All Ya Need Is Love
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 This Is Just Tooo Precious.....
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Topic:
All Ya Need Is Love
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 .......So Beautiful.......
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Praying the $200 lost by Western Union is FOUND !!!!
Luv...I've been in a similar situation..so I can relate.... Praying the lost money Shows Up in Jesus Mighty Name, Amen!!
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How To Stop The Rapture
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TBRich.....read all the way to bottom of page... will help explain... http://bible.cc/matthew/16-28.htm |
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