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Thu 09/10/15 01:19 PM

ABC news

Police face recruiting shortage due to war on cops

By Edmund DeMarche
September 7, 2015


California Highway Patrol Officer J. Nelson stands outside the office of Gov. Jerry Brown as protestors shouting "black lives matter" block the hallway, demanding passage of an anti-racial profiling, bill on Sept. 2.
Photo: AP
Police departments face a recruiting shortage amid a growing anti-cop mood that some fear has taken the pride out of peacekeeping and put targets on the backs of the men and women in blue.
Open calls for the killing of police have been followed by assassinations, including last week’s murder in Texas of a Harris County sheriff’s deputy. Instead of dialing back the incendiary rhetoric, groups including “Black Lives Matter” have instead doubled down at demonstrations with chants of “Pigs in a blanket, fry ’em like bacon.” Public safety officials fear the net effect has been to demonize police, and diminish the job.
“It’s a lot harder to sell now,” Jeff Roorda, business manager of the St. Louis Police Officers Association and former state representative, told FoxNews.com. “This is a very real phenomenon.”

Roorda’s colleagues witnessed the fierce, anti-police rioting that followed the police shooting last year of Michael Brown in nearby Ferguson, Missouri. Even though a grand jury and a federal Justice Department inquiry did not fault Ferguson Police Officer Darren Wilson, debunked claims that the cop killed Brown as he held his hands up and begged for his life have animated the Black Lives Matter movement as it spread around the nation.
Roorda, who spoke in defense of police in the aftermath of the Ferguson shooting, said protesters took to Twitter to promote a #KillRoorda hashtag.
“You no longer just have to worry about your life while in uniform,” he said. “Now you have to be worried about the well-being of your family,” he said.
Roorda said the new academy class continues to be delayed and the police force loses about double the amount of officers per year than in the past.
Knowing police face public scorn or career-ending legal battles even if they acted properly has convinced many prospective cops to abandon their dreams of patrolling America’s streets.
“I saw all this anti-cop propaganda and I was like, ‘Who needs this?’” said Antonio, a New Yorker who asked that only his first name be used. The 32-year-old had applied and been accepted into the NYPD academy, but withdrew his candidacy amid the cop-bashing climate sweeping the country.

“Black Lives Matter” protesters march in Los Angeles on Aug. 11.
Photo: Reuters
Even top police brass understand why the shield has lost its shine.
“Right now, policing is not the most attractive occupation that they could probably get into,” Philadelphia Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey told CBS.
Recruitment nationally is “way down,” said Jonathan Thompson, executive director of the National Sheriff’s Association. He said some sheriffs around the country say the number of applications has fallen by as much as 50 percent.
While blatant calls for killing cops are unusual, the job has always been dangerous. The National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund, which monitors the number of police officers killed in the line of duty, tabulated 48 police officers around the nation were killed by gunfire in 2014. So far this year, 26 law enforcement officers have been shot to death on duty, putting the nation on track for a 19 percent decrease. But these numbers do not identify police officers intentionally targeted for the mere fact that they wear a badge.
Police in Texas believe that may have been the sole motivation for the murder Friday night of Harris County Sheriff’s Officer Darren Goforth at a gas station in a Houston suburb. The suspect in that case, Shannon Jaruay Miles, allegedly came up behind Goforth as he pumped gas and shot the officer 15 times.

Harris County Deputy Darren Goforth
Photo: EPA
In December 2014, New York City Police Officers Wenjian Liu and his partner Rafael Ramos were killed in an ambush while sitting inside their patrol car on a Brooklyn streetcorner.
“No warning, no provocation,” Police Commissioner William Bratton said at the time. “They were quite simply assassinated, targeted for their uniform.”
The gunman reportedly announced online that he was planning to shoot two “pigs” to avenge the death of Eric Garner, a Staten Island man who died after being put in a chokehold by police who were arresting him for selling loose cigarettes.
“I’m putting wings on pigs today. They take 1 of ours, let’s take 2 of theirs,” Ismaaiyl Brinsley wrote on an Instagram account. Brinsley killed himself on a subway platform as police closed in on him.
There is currently a massive manhunt in Fox Lake, Ill., after a police officer was shot and killed while pursuing a group of men. Lt. Charles Joseph Gliniewicz, known affectionately as “GI Joe” was giving chase to three men on foot.
In addition to the Brown and Garner cases, the anti-police sentiment has been fueled by the April death in police custody of Freddie Gray in Baltimore and the fatal shooting, also in April, of Walter Scott in South Carolina. Six Baltimore police officers face charges in the death of Gray, who died of injuries suffered while being transported in a police van. North Charleston Police Officer Michael Slager has been charged with murder in Scott’s shooting.
Galvanized by the deaths, Black Lives Matter has sought to bring attention to the issue of police brutality with protests around the nation.
“What’s more uncomfortable, shouting, stopping freeways and interrupting speeches — or being murdered by police and having your body left in the street for more than four hours, or turning up dead in a jail cell after a traffic stop?” the group posted on Facebook.

‘WE’RE SITTING DUCKS. WE’RE IN THESE UNIFORMS, BRIGHTLY COLORED CARS AND THERE’S NOTHING WE CAN DO.’

 - Sgt. Delroy Burton, DC Police Union
Some law enforcement officials believe President Obama has fanned the flames by not denouncing the movement more unequivocally, although he did personally call the widow of Goforth and has condemned violence against police.
“President Obama has breathed life into this ugly movement,” Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke told “Fox & Friends.” “And it is time now for good, law-abiding Americans to rise up. We now have to counter this slime, this filth coming out of these cop haters.”
Sgt. Delroy Burton, chairman of the DC Police Union in Washington, compared the current treatment of police to veterans returning from the Vietnam War.
“We have to fight the bad guys, and the policymakers go unnoticed,” he said.
Burton, who was born in Jamaica and is a former U.S. Marine, said his police force is about 131 officers understaffed and has seen nearly 600 officers resign in the past 19 months — a number he said is unheard of.
“We’re sitting ducks,” he said. “We’re in these uniforms, brightly colored cars and there’s nothing we can do. And the vast majority supports this loud vocal minority.

Let's point out the FACT that the 30SECOND 1 time 1 place chant (no actual crimes were committed at that rally) happened BEFORE the shooting of Harris County Sheriffs Deputy Goforth, since his OWN sheriff referenced the chant at the initial press conference on the day of the shooting.
The BLM Movement did not instruct that rally to use that chant AFTER the shooting, the rally used the chant for 30 SECONDS 1 time BEFORE the shooting. The BLM Movement did not instruct the rally to use that chant at all. Goforths murder has NOTHING to do with the BLM movement.
The shooter of the 2 officers in New York had NOTHING to do with the BLM movement. That was premeditated murder planned and carried out by 1 man.
Lt. Gliniewicz death (officially since the Fox Lake coroner has not ruled out suicide or released any details about the 1 devastating gunshot wound) has NOTHING to do with the BLM movement.

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Thu 09/10/15 11:33 AM

A Black Lives Matter textbook could be coming to a school near you.

Aimed at white sixth grade through high school students, "Black Lives Matter (Special Reports)" "covers the shootings that touched off passionate protests, the work of activists to bring about a more just legal system and tensions in the U.S. society that these events have brought to light," according to Ardo Publishing.

Authors Duchess Harris and Sue Bradford Edwards say the conversation needs to happen with young students, but critics say it goes too far.

Larry Elder said on "Fox and Friends Weekend" that this book is indoctrinating children to believe that that black people are victims and white people should feel guilty about it. He explained that doesn't get to the root of the problem.

He said if the Black Lives Matter movement is really concerned about saving the lives of African Americans, they should focus on black-on-black crime, which is the number one cause of preventable death among young black males.

Elder questioned why Black Lives Matter activists are writing books like this and interrupting speeches by politicians like Bernie Sanders and Martin O'Malley.

"Why don't they come down to Compton or South Central, where I grew up, and confront the Bloods and the Crips and MS-13?" Elder said. "Get in their faces and chant 'black lives matter.' Maybe that will have some sort of effect."

http://m.aol.com/article/2015/08/24/new-black-lives-matter-textbook-is-aimed-at-white-middle-schoole/21226649/



OPERATION ROCKFISH - Police protecting shipments of cocaine and heroin throughout east coast and prisons.
13 officers and 2 others indicted on these charges.

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Thu 09/10/15 02:59 AM
Brown wasn't convicted posthumously with attempted murder. There was a struggle between Brown and the former officer while he was still in the car.
Brown's autopsy wast consistent with him being shot with his arms up before following shots to the body and multiple shots to the head which Wilson admitted to his sight picture (target in the sights on his pistol) BEFORE pulling the trigger in an interview on National t.v.

Michael Brown committed a crime, he stole cigarillos. We do not know what exactly was said at the car before or after the altercation took place but we know that he was not armed. We also know that Darren Wilson had several alternatives to repeated use of deadly force against an unarmed PERSON.

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Thu 09/10/15 02:20 AM
MICHAEL TARM Associated Press

WATCH: Inside the Manhunt for the Fox Lake Cop Killers

CHICAGO — The killing of a veteran police officer north of Chicago is the latest in a string of recent law enforcement deaths. Lt. Charles Joseph Gliniewicz' death on Tuesday triggered a manhunt for three suspects around the small Illinois community where the 52-year-old officer worked. A look at some of the latest slayings and data on other officer killings:

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HOW MANY OFFICERS HAVE DIED?

Gliniewicz was the eighth law enforcement officer shot and killed in the U.S. in the last month and the fourth in 10 days, according to the Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund, which tracks officers' deaths so their names can be enshrined on a Washington, D.C., memorial. Steve Groeninger, a spokesman for the group, said four fatal shootings in recent days is a higher rate than usual.

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IS THAT AN INCREASE?

No. Shooting deaths of officers are actually down 13 percent compared with the same January-to-September period in 2014. There were 30 shootings last year and 26 this year. Those figures include state and local officers, as well as federal agents. The figures also include two accidental shootings, Groeninger said. Suicides are not included.

Deaths have declined through the decades. The average number of officer shooting deaths for the first six months of each year — which is how the memorial fund gauges trends — was 62 through the 1970s.

The worst half-year period over the past five decades was in 1973, when 84 officers were shot and killed in the first six months alone. Through the early 2000s, the six-month average fell to 29.

More than 20,500 names are inscribed in marble on the memorial in Washington. They include officers killed in attacks and in accidents from 1791 through 2015.

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WHERE WERE THE OTHER RECENT KILLINGS?

Darren Goforth was shot and killed Aug. 28 in suburban Houston as the Harris County deputy stopped to put gas in his patrol car. Henry Nelson, an officer in Sunset, Louisiana, was shot and killed Aug. 26 while responding to a domestic-violence call. Louisiana State trooper Steven J. Vincent died Aug. 14 after being shot in the head while assisting a motorist.

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DO THE NUMBERS INDICATE ANYTHING?

Groeninger cautioned that it was too soon to say if officer deaths are trending up. "The data doesn't say that yet," he said. He also said there is no clearly identifiable pattern in the killings and no conclusions to draw for now, other than "there are people out there who intend to harm police officers for whatever reason."

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HOW MANY OFFICERS HAVE BEEN SPECIFICALLY TARGETED?

During the last 12 months, six officers appear to have been targeted specifically because they worked in law enforcement, according to the memorial fund. That includes the Texas deputy, as well as two New York City officers who were shot and killed in December as they sat in their patrol car.

Elsewhere, an officer for the Housing Authority of New Orleans was fatally shot in his patrol car on May 24. In California, a San Jose Police Department officer was killed March 24 responding to a call that a man was threatening to kill himself. A Pennsylvania State Police officer was shot and killed on Sept. 14, 2014, outside a police barracks by someone wielding a rifle.

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WHAT AGENCIES DID THE SLAIN OFFICERS WORK FOR?

City police account for the largest number of officers killed in shootings. Out of the 26 officers killed nationwide so far this year, 17 were on city forces, four were with the county and three with the state. One federal agent and one tribal officer were also killed, according to the memorial fund.

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Thu 09/10/15 01:38 AM

Black lives matter is a hate group by definition. As a "group" they sing the praises of killing cops. One instance of a large group doing this is evidence. More than one group doing it is proof.

"fry them like bacon!" You got to be kidding. Their actions are indefensible.


1 instance of 1 group chanting for 30 SECONDS in 1 city actually lead on the ground in this particular instance by white people. 2 in front of the BLM banner, at least one holding the banner and several whites behind the banner. The "leader" who arranged the PEACEFUL protest was not telling them to say that which is why I imagine it only happened for 30 SECONDS. The "leader" who arranged this protest was not the actual leader of the Black Lives Matter movement who also found the 30 SECOND chant offensive.

"Singing praises of killing cops" never happened nor was it or is it a part of the movement.

If you want to know what the movement is about and does encourage and condone

http://www.joincampaignzero.org/problem/

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Thu 09/10/15 01:03 AM



Case by case scenario...Wariness should not turn into paranoia...

Case by case is the root of this problem. Name one case where failure to signal a lane change properly for someone who has not committed any other crime and has no outstanding warrants ends with them being jailed. Other than the Sandra Bland case. Any?
We saw the officer use excessive force, threaten to "light her up" with his tazer then openly lie to his supervisor about " trying to deescalate her but she just wasn't going for it".
The actions of that bad cop wasn't paranoia, it was criminal.
The "missed" cell check and her subsequent hanging... She failed to signal properly, she didn't have a trunk full of illegal guns, kilos of cocaine, dead bodies, or anything. She failed to signal properly. Minor moving violation, they don't try that in criminal court.




I was meaning the public should be wary...for those exact reasons you have pointed out.
Not all police are whack jobs.

You are right about that Lady. Not all cops are bad but when there is a situation like the 11 shootings in 11 days on I-10 people get nervous. Once a cop pulls you over or they show up where you are you can't ask for one with a better window side manner. Even when you are respectful, which I have always been, and they give you attitude or a ticket for something you didn't do, you're stuck with it. Paying a $130 ticket having to explain why you have to miss work is one thing and being beaten to death or shot in the face is another.

A wounded victim of a car crash walking towards the police for help and being shot 10 times after reacting naturally to the laser sights and probes of a tazer should NEVER happen. In the
case that it did happen, $50,000 bond was made, it resulted in mistrial and the State AG refused to try the officer again because he believes the result would be the same? Charlotte-Mecklenburg Officer Randall Kerrick, NC Attorney General Rory Cooper. The victim walked to a nearby house injured asking for help after his car was totaled. The victim was guilty of being injured and needing medical attention (while black).



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Thu 09/10/15 12:27 AM


Focusing directly on the case of Deputy Goforths murder, the OFFICIAL source, the DIRECT source is his own Sheriff. His own Sheriff who is OFFICIALLY in charge of the investigation into his death, spoke out emotionally during a press conference. He later when asked specific questions about the admissible evidence to ANY motivation the murderer had he himself said there was none. When asked specific questions from specific known critics of his emotional statement he responded on record that it appeared the deputy was targeted because of his uniform but there was no evidential motive.


whoa

Is there a better source than the Deputy's own Sheriff in a one on one exclusive interview on National tv to the public in an ongoing investigation?
Further information about the suspect revealed Travis County found him legally "incompetent to stand trial" and court ordered him to a 6 month Texas State mental hospitalization,

Is there a better source than the Fox Lake IL coroners report for Lt Gliniewicz that stated "1 devastating gunshot wound" no other details no approximate distance no details of any other wounds it specifically "couldn't rule out suicide" . There was DNA evidence found at the scene that didn't belong to the Lt. and the 3 persons of interest seen in the home security camera footage were ruled out.

These are not opinions. These are from the directly associated authorities who obviously side with their officers and want to bring their killers to justice.

What people tend to ignore is when things like this happen there is an outpouring of public support and grieving from good tax paying black PEOPLE too. Those crowds, cards balloons donations don't all come from white PEOPLE, hispanic PEOPLE, asian PEOPLE and everyone else. What's the common denominator ^ people?


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Wed 09/09/15 09:57 PM
Focusing directly on the case of Deputy Goforths murder, the OFFICIAL source, the DIRECT source is his own Sheriff. His own Sheriff who is OFFICIALLY in charge of the investigation into his death, spoke out emotionally during a press conference. He later when asked specific questions about the admissible evidence to ANY motivation the murderer had he himself said there was none. When asked specific questions from specific known critics of his emotional statement he responded on record that it appeared the deputy was targeted because of his uniform but there was no evidential motive.

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Wed 09/09/15 09:41 PM
Not you Rose. The unfounded claim was made on another post
but the subject is the same.
QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

the victims arent hurt because they wouldnt fire back, they were hurt because they were caught off guard,,

Victims? if your referring to the police, the were hurt because they were ambushed...

They should have fired back, it would have been justified. It's to the point where Law Enforcement Officers are scared to defend themselves unfortunately thanks to Barry who vilifies them and the damn Black Lives Matter hate group.

Don't repeat that crap or leave out the relevant evidence. LV shooting 1, 1 suspect, 1 gun, 1 victim, 1 wound. CAPTURED. Next LV shooting 2, 1 suspect, 1 gun, 1 victim, 1 wound. CAPTURED. Next Deputy Goforth, 1 homicide, 1 gun, 1 suspect hospitalized by court order for 6 months, CAPTURED. R.I.P. ... Lt Gliniewicz, 1 homicide, 1+? gun(s)?, 1 victim, 2 WHITE 1 black suspects WANTED. $50,000 reward last I heard. R.I.P.

4 shootings 2 black suspects, 1 known to be deputy Goforths killer was found to be mentally incompetent to stand trial and court ordered to a Texas State mental hospital for 6 months. Nobody knows how many guns may have been involved in the Lt. murder or who actually shot him.

Lt Gliniewicz' death wasn't racially motivated. Any judge that would even allow that on record in court shouldn't just be disbarred he should have to eat his robe and his gavel. 2white 1 black suspect. Murder, without a doubt it will be charged as such if anyone ever finds out who these 3 guys are. Even then it'd have to be charged as a joint venture because all 3 of them would plea bargain saying the other two killed him and they were just the look out. Goforths murder was an execution by a mentally ill person. Crime. Tragic. Terrible. Inexcusable. How Travis county is going to get out of the mess they are in seeing what they did with his previous case in terms of not following up, idk. The Sheriff is on record stating that there is no evidence to support that race was a motivation. His uniform was.

Were any of them carrying black lives matter banners? Any? No.

The people chanting FOR 30 SECONDS about pigs blankets and bacon, quite a few of them including the 2 in front of the banner and some carrying the black lives matter banner, were WHITE. They were WHITE people, people. They were white. What does that mean? It means these attacks on police, if the movement is their motivation, CANNOT BE RACIAL. 30 seconds of chanting in one city does not turn A PEACEFUL PROTEST ORGANIZATION into a hate group.

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Wed 09/09/15 09:33 PM



rofl

You realize That arguement can be used for any debate to those that don't agree? I'm right and you're wrong has been the arguement here since I started in 07

The argument of opinion vs. opinion brings only a result of I'm right because I'm right (making the other wrong). That type of argument unfortunately does occur quite often. The opinion vs. fact argument where one side has no basis in actual fact from the original source make the opinion logically false.

The self supporting argument� is also invalid.
For example:
I believe what I believe and can't change that by saying I am wrong.

KNOWING you were wrong changes what you believe, CAUSING you to say "I am wrong." That may or may not change how you FEEL, or whether or not you are self-aware.

What she said was not a reference to your education level. It's about the specific source of information. A fourth or fifth hand source may or may not be true. The way to check that is to go to the original source. Once that is done and the reports don't match one is a misinformed or falsified opinion and one is the truth. It's not an insult in any way.


However, this is not science. Statement of "purpose", used as an original source of information means nothing when presented with reel after reel of marcher's singing hate. Kim is correct, as usual.

You're also ignoring the FACT that not all blacks are members of the Nation of Islam.

Misinformation = assumed association of Nation of Islam & Black Lives Matter

Misinformation = assumed association of NBPP & Black Lives Matter

Misinformation = assumed association of Black Panthers & Black Lives Matter

Misinformation = assumed criminality of Black Lives Matter

Misinformation = assumed association of recent police murdered & Black Lives Matter

Misinformation = assumed association of crimes in Ferguson & PEACEFUL Black Lives Matter Protest

Misinformation = assumed association of the murder of Lt Joe Gliniewicz & Black Lives Matter. His dying words were there were 2 WHITE & 1 black suspect. To date NO ONE KNOWS who of the. three suspects killed him.

Misinformation = assumed association of the murder of Deputy Goforth & Black Lives Matter. His own Sheriff is on record confirming that there is NO EVIDENCE to suggest that the murder was racially motivated.

Common denominator, Black or assumed black people

Put all those things together with a couple hundred thousand gallons of super glue graciously donated by Ronald Grump and you get one big less than happy bigoted view of anyone black or assumed black. I'd say that pretty much qualifies as hate speech.

Bmore got torn to pieces, especially the pharmacies. What people don't know about that particular crime spree is that corrupt police have been protecting shipments of cocaine and herion throughout the east coast. Not all police obviously, but 13 police and correctional officers have been indicted on those charges as a result of

OPERATION ROCKFISH.

Free opiates are more profitable to DRUG DEALERS than police escorted shipments from overseas or South America. DRUG DEALERS, who STEAL and SELL DRUGS are not PEACEFUL PROTESTERS.

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Wed 09/09/15 09:08 PM

rofl

You realize That arguement can be used for any debate to those that don't agree? I'm right and you're wrong has been the arguement here since I started in 07

The argument of opinion vs. opinion brings only a result of I'm right because I'm right (making the other wrong). That type of argument unfortunately does occur quite often. The opinion vs. fact argument where one side has no basis in actual fact from the original source make the opinion logically false.

The self supporting argument� is also invalid.
For example:
I believe what I believe and can't change that by saying I am wrong.

KNOWING you were wrong changes what you believe, CAUSING you to say "I am wrong." That may or may not change how you FEEL, or whether or not you are self-aware.

What she said was not a reference to your education level. It's about the specific source of information. A fourth or fifth hand source may or may not be true. The way to check that is to go to the original source. Once that is done and the reports don't match one is a misinformed or falsified opinion and one is the truth. It's not an insult in any way.

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Wed 09/09/15 12:43 PM



Case by case scenario...Wariness should not turn into paranoia...

Case by case is the root of this problem. Name one case where failure to signal a lane change properly for someone who has not committed any other crime and has no outstanding warrants ends with them being jailed. Other than the Sandra Bland case. Any?
We saw the officer use excessive force, threaten to "light her up" with his tazer then openly lie to his supervisor about " trying to deescalate her but she just wasn't going for it".
The actions of that bad cop wasn't paranoia, it was criminal.
The "missed" cell check and her subsequent hanging... She failed to signal properly, she didn't have a trunk full of illegal guns, kilos of cocaine, dead bodies, or anything. She failed to signal properly. Minor moving violation, they don't try that in criminal court.





omg, you think you can argue like that and just do what you want with police?

even a traffic stop, you are technically under arrest... that goes for black people too, since you seem to forget that...

No. I know I'm not under arrest until I am told I'm under arrest for committing an actual crime. I know I have rights. Miranda law covers everyone too. Even black PEOPLE. Snake...

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Wed 09/09/15 02:28 AM
Perhaps the worse most far fetched bovine feces unfounded claim of all

That Barrack Obama endorsed encouraged or in any way made known publicly or privately (him being the most publicly transparent President in U.S. History) violence against ANY police officer. Complete and utter ********. Never once in any case where a black person died at the hands or weapons of police did the President say or hint that anyone should do harm seek to do harm or kill any police in any city county or town in the U.S. It never happened.
Both incidents where looting and rioting took place in Ferguson and Baltimore the police and the courts handled everything the worst way it could possibly be handled. Wait til nightfall to announce a verdict that allows a murder of an unarmed person to unchecked is begging for a riot. What did happen is him calling for PEACE just as the families of the victims have called for PEACE and the Black Lives Matter Movement called for PEACE. No super glue needed.

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Wed 09/09/15 01:47 AM
Edited by germanchoclate1981 on Wed 09/09/15 01:52 AM
You're also ignoring the FACT that not all blacks are members of the Nation of Islam.

Misinformation = assumed association of Nation of Islam & Black Lives Matter

Misinformation = assumed association of NBPP & Black Lives Matter

Misinformation = assumed association of Black Panthers & Black Lives Matter

Misinformation = assumed criminality of Black Lives Matter

Misinformation = assumed association of recent police murdered & Black Lives Matter

Misinformation = assumed association of crimes in Ferguson & PEACEFUL Black Lives Matter Protest

Misinformation = assumed association of the murder of Lt Joe Gliniewicz & Black Lives Matter. His dying words were there were 2 WHITE & 1 black suspect. To date NO ONE KNOWS who of the. three� suspects killed him.

Misinformation = assumed association of the murder of Deputy Goforth & Black Lives Matter. His own Sheriff is on record confirming that there is NO EVIDENCE to suggest that the murder was racially motivated.

Common denominator, Black or assumed black people

Put all those things together with a couple hundred thousand gallons of super glue graciously donated by Ronald Grump and you get one big less than happy bigoted view of anyone black or assumed black. I'd say that pretty much qualifies as hate speech.

Bmore got torn to pieces, especially the pharmacies. What people don't know about that particular crime spree is that corrupt police have been protecting shipments of cocaine and herion throughout the east coast.
Not all police obviously, but 13 police and correctional officers have been indicted on those charges as a result of

OPERATION ROCKFISH.

Free opiates are more profitable to DRUG DEALERS than police escorted shipments from overseas or South America. DRUG DEALERS, who STEAL and SELL DRUGS are not PEACEFUL PROTESTERS.

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Tue 09/08/15 11:38 PM
"Enjoy your ride, we sure will!"


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Tue 09/08/15 09:09 PM

Case by case scenario...Wariness should not turn into paranoia...

Case by case is the root of this problem. Name one case where failure to signal a lane change properly for someone who has not committed any other crime and has no outstanding warrants ends with them being jailed. Other than the Sandra Bland case. Any?
We saw the officer use excessive force, threaten to "light her up" with his tazer then openly lie to his supervisor about " trying to deescalate her but she just wasn't going for it".
The actions of that bad cop wasn't paranoia, it was criminal.
The "missed" cell check and her subsequent hanging... She failed to signal properly, she didn't have a trunk full of illegal guns, kilos of cocaine, dead bodies, or anything. She failed to signal properly. Minor moving violation, they don't try that in criminal court.



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Tue 09/08/15 02:29 PM
^ ≠ is symbol for 'not equal to'

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Tue 09/08/15 02:26 PM







the victims arent hurt because they wouldnt fire back, they were hurt because they were caught off guard,,


Victims? if your referring to the police, the were hurt because they were ambushed...


They should have fired back, it would have been justified. It's to the point where Law Enforcement Officers are scared to defend themselves unfortunately thanks to Barry who vilifies them and the damn Black Lives Matter hate group.

Don't repeat that crap or leave out the relevant evidence.
LV shooting 1, 1 suspect, 1 gun, 1 victim, 1 wound. CAPTURED. Next
LV shooting 2, 1 suspect, 1 gun, 1 victim, 1 wound. CAPTURED. Next
Deputy Goforth, 1 homicide, 1 gun, 1 suspect hospitalized by court order for 6 months, CAPTURED. R.I.P. ...
Lt Gliniewicz, 1 homicide, 1+? gun(s)?, 1 victim, 2 WHITE 1 black suspects WANTED. $50,000 reward last I heard. R.I.P.

4 shootings 2 black suspects, 1 known to be deputy Goforths killer was found to be mentally incompetent to stand trial and court ordered to a Texas State mental hospital for 6 months. Nobody knows how many guns may have been involved in the Lt. murder or who actually shot him.

Lt Gliniewicz' death wasn't racially motivated. Any judge that would even allow that on record in court shouldn't just be disbarred he should have to eat his robe and his gavel. 2white 1 black suspect. Murder, without a doubt it will be charged as such if anyone ever finds out who these 3 guys are. Even then it'd have to be charged as a joint venture because all 3 of them would plea bargain saying the other two killed him and they were just the look out.
Goforths murder was an execution by a mentally ill person. Crime. Tragic. Terrible. Inexcusable. How Travis county is going to get out of the mess they are in seeing what they did with his previous case in terms of not following up, idk. The Sheriff is on record stating that there is no evidence to support that race was a motivation. His uniform was.

Were any of them carrying black lives matter banners? Any? No.

The people chanting FOR 30 SECONDS about pigs blankets and bacon, quite a few of them including the 2 in front of the banner and some carrying the black lives matter banner, were WHITE. They were WHITE people, people. They were white. What does that mean? It means these attacks on police, if the movement is their motivation, CANNOT BE RACIAL.
30 seconds of chanting in one city does not turn A PEACEFUL PROTEST ORGANIZATION into a hate group.


i disagree... anyone who calls for death and murder is a hate group, plain and simple... by your standards, skinheads aren't a hate group...


an individual and a group are different things

skinheads are a GROUP , actually several subgroups too, and they dont all call for death and murder,, believe it or not

those GROUPS who as their PLATFORM encourage and promote murder and hate are HATE GROUPS

a group having individuals show up that promote these things does not make the GROUP a hate group


i disagree, still... king shabazz is the leader of the black panthers, and he wants his "peeps" to kill white babies, farrycon is the leader of a "church" and he wants white people dead... thats hate, plain and simple...


Shabazz - Black Panthers ≠ Black Lives Matter
Farrakhan - Nation of Islam ≠ Black Lives Matter

To quote mikeybegood


Well in general terms the BLM movement is not a 'hate' group until it specifically says do violence to an identifiable group.

If the group 'thinks' cops should die, or says it hopes they do, that simply makes them a$$hole$, but not criminals. When they say go and kill cops just because they are cops, or kill all white people, then yeah, that's incitement and it qualifies as hate.

Of note though if you Google 'raid Black Panthers' the hits you get go back to police raids in 1969 and the early 70's. Google 'raid white supremacists' and you get stories of them being arrested and investigated right into 2015.

So in theory the Black Panthers and the up to date New Black Panther Party have been peaceable citizens for 40 years now, and whites apparently not so much, with the cops kicking in their doors until present day. Ironically the NBPP is actually designated a hate group by the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, the Jewish Anti-Defamation League, and surprisingly the Southern Poverty Law Center.

It's most notable 'recent' action was the 2008 election day baton swinging incident in Philly. Two members of the NBPP stood outside a polling station, with one of them waving a police style baton in a menacing manner. They were using racial slurs and saying whomever was entering the building better be voting for Obama. They were never charged with voter intimidation, or civil rights violations because even though the event was captured on video, no actual voter would swear out a complaint saying they were too scared to vote.


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Tue 09/08/15 01:42 AM

Well in general terms the BLM movement is not a 'hate' group until it specifically says do violence to an identifiable group.

If the group 'thinks' cops should die, or says it hopes they do, that simply makes them a$$hole$, but not criminals. When they say go and kill cops just because they are cops, or kill all white people, then yeah, that's incitement and it qualifies as hate.

Of note though if you Google 'raid Black Panthers' the hits you get go back to police raids in 1969 and the early 70's. Google 'raid white supremacists' and you get stories of them being arrested and investigated right into 2015.

So in theory the Black Panthers and the up to date New Black Panther Party have been peaceable citizens for 40 years now, and whites apparently not so much, with the cops kicking in their doors until present day. Ironically the NBPP is actually designated a hate group by the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, the Jewish Anti-Defamation League, and surprisingly the Southern Poverty Law Center.

It's most notable 'recent' action was the 2008 election day baton swinging incident in Philly. Two members of the NBPP stood outside a polling station, with one of them waving a police style baton in a menacing manner. They were using racial slurs and saying whomever was entering the building better be voting for Obama. They were never charged with voter intimidation, or civil rights violations because even though the event was captured on video, no actual voter would swear out a complaint saying they were too scared to vote.
shocked !!!!!!!



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Tue 09/08/15 12:38 AM



the victims arent hurt because they wouldnt fire back, they were hurt because they were caught off guard,,


Victims? if your referring to the police, the were hurt because they were ambushed...


They should have fired back, it would have been justified. It's to the point where Law Enforcement Officers are scared to defend themselves unfortunately thanks to Barry who vilifies them and the damn Black Lives Matter hate group.

Don't repeat that crap or leave out the relevant evidence.
LV shooting 1, 1 suspect, 1 gun, 1 victim, 1 wound. CAPTURED. Next
LV shooting 2, 1 suspect, 1 gun, 1 victim, 1 wound. CAPTURED. Next
Deputy Goforth, 1 homicide, 1 gun, 1 suspect hospitalized by court order for 6 months, CAPTURED. R.I.P. ...
Lt Gliniewicz, 1 homicide, 1+? gun(s)?, 1 victim, 2 WHITE 1 black suspects WANTED. $50,000 reward last I heard. R.I.P.

4 shootings 2 black suspects, 1 known to be deputy Goforths killer was found to be mentally incompetent to stand trial and court ordered to a Texas State mental hospital for 6 months. Nobody knows how many guns may have been involved in the Lt. murder or who actually shot him.

Lt Gliniewicz' death wasn't racially motivated. Any judge that would even allow that on record in court shouldn't just be disbarred he should have to eat his robe and his gavel. 2white 1 black suspect. Murder, without a doubt it will be charged as such if anyone ever finds out who these 3 guys are. Even then it'd have to be charged as a joint venture because all 3 of them would plea bargain saying the other two killed him and they were just the look out.
Goforths murder was an execution by a mentally ill person. Crime. Tragic. Terrible. Inexcusable. How Travis county is going to get out of the mess they are in seeing what they did with his previous case in terms of not following up, idk. The Sheriff is on record stating that there is no evidence to support that race was a motivation. His uniform was.

Were any of them carrying black lives matter banners? Any? No.

The people chanting FOR 30 SECONDS about pigs blankets and bacon, quite a few of them including the 2 in front of the banner and some carrying the black lives matter banner, were WHITE. They were WHITE people, people. They were white. What does that mean? It means these attacks on police, if the movement is their motivation, CANNOT BE RACIAL.
30 seconds of chanting in one city does not turn A PEACEFUL PROTEST ORGANIZATION into a hate group.