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Tue 09/01/15 06:29 PM

DSM 5 is the newest addition APA is using
but it changes every so often
do I think mental illness is more prevalent now

I think it's diagnosed more often now
I think statistically there are more adults on some form of medication for such things as depression, anxiety now
I think over years going to therapy has lost some of it's social stigma

There is a natural medicine with few negative side effects but it's not legally available in all states.

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Tue 09/01/15 05:50 PM


Yes invictus this did happen. If you look at the video of that one protest during that specific chant you will also see that those marching in front of the banner some holding the banner and some behind the banner are white. Marching hand in hand chanting alongside the black protesters.

The Sheriff in the incident in Texas had a fair chance on national tv to respond to criticism to specific questions from specific named critics. His responses are listed above. The particular response that he conveyed to anyone watching or reading is,

"Clearly, my agenda is to make sure that we tone down the temperament of all rhetoric when it gets so inflammatory."


There are plenty of whites involved in this. I am certain that at some point the elite white progressives will start financing it as it was shown they were doing by paying people to protest in Ferguson.

They aren't doing it because they care about black lives they are doing it because they want a destabilized society.

Chaos and fear make them money.

I do know for a fact that the majority of people arrested after the poorly scheduled announcement of the verdict were from outside Ferguson some from as far away as New York. I have not seen any proof that protesters were compensated to protest and or riot.

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Tue 09/01/15 05:23 PM
Sorry Gnome, I couldn't help myself.

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Tue 09/01/15 05:22 PM

I'll sign the petition to bring back involuntary electro conclusive therapy for the mentally ill.
bigsmile

I don't think that would help the issue, a jury may find that they were coerced to reach a conclusion by means of external involuntary voltage. think

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Tue 09/01/15 02:54 PM

Mental issues can be sumed up by the very many commercials promoting various anti-depression, anti-anxiaty medications.

One commercial, I think was cymbalta said, " you may experience suicidal thoughts, if you do, stop taking cymbalta and consult your doctor."

Modern medicine is obviously helpful, however, what exactly is in this stuff, who's making them, and who's getting rich from them?

I think, society today is over medicated to the extent that they need new medications to combat the adverse effect of alot of the medications used today.

Water is not regulated by the FDA. There's something in the water, lithium, an anti-psychotic. How much? We don't know because the FDA doesn't require water bottlers to list ingredients. Jesse Ventura covered that on his show.

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Tue 09/01/15 02:49 PM
Yes invictus this did happen. If you look at the video of that one protest during that specific chant you will also see that those marching in front of the banner some holding the banner and some behind the banner are white. Marching hand in hand chanting alongside the black protesters.

The Sheriff in the incident in Texas had a fair chance on national tv to respond to criticism to specific questions from specific named critics. His responses are listed above. The particular response that he conveyed to anyone watching or reading is,

"Clearly, my agenda is to make sure that we tone down the temperament of all rhetoric when it gets so inflammatory."

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Tue 09/01/15 01:14 AM
Holistic medicine psychology and psychiatry are different but share the fact that they are not widely accepted by insurance companies and the majority of hospitals. As anyone who has had any kind of medical problems not able to be addressed by their primary doctor knows it's difficult to get specialty care of any kind without having to pay an arm and a leg for it. Dental and optical are even seen as separate by many insurance companies, even basic dental and optical care gets extremely expensive if you can't afford add on or separate policies. What is sad is that even though these companies and hospitals know how important these things are for everyone, as far as the world has come in all these practices, and as cheap as mass production and assembly lines even robotic factories they still deny most of their payers needed care and stick us all with higher premiums and co-pays for the few that do get it. We can do better.

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Mon 08/31/15 10:29 PM

There have not been reliable and stable statistics maintained about mentally ill people committing crimes, so trying to decide if there is a greater percentage of mentally ill people or not isn't definitely possible.

I know a couple of cautionary things to point out.

One, is that the clinical definition of mentally ill is changing all the time. Also, the LEGAL definition of mentally ill is changing as well, and it's only marginally related to the clinical definition.

The other, is that the people who report this stuff to us, are prone to following fads. So one month, while the hot fad is race-on-race crime, THAT will get reported prominently, even if race itself played no role in the actual crime. The next month, wannabe terrorists may be the hot topic, and every time some college kid expresses solidarity with the plight of some middle eastern subgroup, it will make the front page. Then obviously wildly incoherently insane crime will be a fad. And the crimes which were ignored the previous two months, will be headlined every day.

To top that all off, it's very probably true on some level, that ALL crime is a sign of mental illness. Everything except entirely accidental crime, at least.

Simple answer: I don't know if it's increasing or not, but I actually kind of hope that people think that it is. Because if they do, we might be able to finally begin to get our society to commit enough resources to dealing with mental health, that we can actually make more lasting headway against ALL crime.

I wouldn't go so far as to call the talking points 'fads' I think the speed and diversity of media outlets available and what we chose to pay attention to or can't ignore would be a more accurate description--for most. That being said I can understand why you worded it that way.
This topic played a major role in the murder of Harris County Sheriff Deputy Darren Goforth. Sheriff Ron Hickman initially attributed the heinous act to the Black Lives Matter movement and surrounding rhetoric.

In October 2012 Shannon Miles got into an altercation with another homeless man at a shelter in Austin Texas which resulted in him being charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. Before Miles court date he was found "mentally incompetent to stand trial" by a psychiatrist the judge agreed and Miles was sent to a state mental hospital for 6 months. Miles had a few other misdemeanor charges that were penalized with time served but nothing major. (CNN Ed Lavendera)

Sheriff Ron Hickman when questioned by Anderson Cooper
"Is there any new evidence pointing to his alleged motive?"

"We continue to research that issue, certainly we are interested in any connection the two of them ever had.
Thus far we have not found a connection. "

"At this point, do you still believe Deputy Goforth was targeted solely targeted because of his uniform?"

"At this juncture we find no other motivation other than the fact that he eas wearing a uniform which makes it purely a random kind of issue."

"Over the weekend we heard you say black lives matter, white lives matter, well cops lives matter too. At any point when the rhetoric ramps up to the calculated cold blooded assassinations of police officers happen, that rhetoric has gotten out of control. To be clear, do you believe that the black lives matter movement is somehow responsible for Deputy Goforths death?"

"One can speculate that the rhetoric in our area, of course we're only a short distance down the road from Waller county where the Bland case has elevated the tension to those issues to a very high level. So it isn't a far stretch to believe that that kind of rhetoric could influence someone."

"But you have no direct evidence at this point of what was in this alleged killers mind?"
"No. Certainly not."
"There has been some criticism of your statement. Texas State Representative Garnett Coleman said that he thinks your statement is politicizing his death and it says it quote,"shows a lack of understanding what's occurring in this country when it comes to the singling out of African-Americans." I want you to be able to respond to that. Do you think there is any validity to the concerns of the black lives matter movement?"

"Well, I think he may misunderstand my purpose there. There will be people who want to make this a political issue. That's not my interest. I have visited with the wife of the slain Deputy and she very clearly indicated that she wants to communicate that we're on target. All lives do matter. If we have any connection whatsoever with the public we want to convey that message."

"An organizer of with a group called The Organization for the Black Struggle also criticized your statement saying "the Black lives matter movement has never condoned any violence against police officers and if you can't understand why people are saying black lives matter than that's the problem." I want you to be able to respond to that. "

"There will be people that pervert this, twist it for their own purposes and to pursue their own agendas. Clearly, my agenda is to make sure that we tone down the temperament of all rhetoric when it gets so inflammatory."

"So to those who say they will continue to protest in the Black lives matter movement, what do you say? Is your concern just bringing down some of the rhetoric, is it the movement in general?"

"I don't think the movement in general is what we're talking about. I think what we're talking about is the extremes. When you start talking about taking people's lives, and taking pictures (Roanoke) you know, killing cops on radio talkshows (this) kind of rhetoric can get out of hand."

"The President of the Fraternal Order of Police said that he thinks this should be labeled a hate crime. Do you think that's the case?"

"I think if we can demonstrate that he was isolated and selected because he's wearing a uniform I think that would qualify."

Transcript of entire interview lest I be blamed for taking it out of context. Subpoenas are in order for mental health records of Miles from the state hospital and any others. A six month State hospitalization on court order for awdw being his hand(s) would undeniably be a sign of mental illness. While Deputy Goforth was one of the good guys, Travis County court has proven that mental illness is without doubt a factor in his tragic death. May he rest in peace.

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Mon 08/31/15 02:20 AM

From the FBI



Not immigrants, gangs. I've seen this before.
2011 National Gang Threat Assessment from FBI.gov.

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Mon 08/31/15 01:56 AM
Here's an easier takeaway

A's have no reason to kill B's
B's have no reason to kill A's

1B kills 1A on video,is arrested for the murder of 1A, 1B will be tried convicted sentenced and punished accordingly.

Several A's kill several B's on video. Many are not tried fewer convicted fewer still sentenced and punished.

Given ONLY this information, are A's and B's being treated equally?
Yes or no?

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Mon 08/31/15 01:32 AM








death is sweeter than continued life under tyranny

ISNT THAT THE SELLING POINT OF THE CHERISHED 2nd AMENDMENT?

has the constitution caused assassins throughout history to kill politicians?


"tyranny" doesn't mean you can do whatever you like and not get hassled by the cops...


when people are breaking the law, they should expect to get hassled by the police...

so your definition of tyranny doesn't apply here...
It's obvious that tyranny is in reference to injustice. Its also obviouse he is reffering to the many killings by police of unarmed people, while rarely prosecuted. Rarely prosecuted is indeed tyranny because it fall under injustice.

Tamir Rice was a kid playing with a toy, police shoot and kill him and not even reprimanded. Thats what people are protesting. Not the shooting of criminals. Really quite simple.


how quickly you change your tune.... read back on some of your posts about how most everyone you've cried about was a 2 time felon... and not once did you have anything to say about the innocents like the 9 year shot by another black, while doing her homework...

it really is that simple, you wanna throw your racist views around, while completely ignoring the real problem, which is the crimes committed by these thugs against the real innocents, and then call cops racist...

people with that attitude is the problem, not the police...

Police as a whole are not racist, racists in some cases are police.
Black people are not racist as a whole.
White people are not racist as a whole.
Just so that's clear.

The PERSON pictured above is not in a gilley suit. He's not wearing camouflage. The high contrast outfit much like the high contrast billboard is very visible. He's also walking upright
nothing sneaky about his captured posture which indicates that he is not afraid to be seen. So the PERSON pictured above APPEARS to be determined to be seen committing murder. Premeditated cold blooded REvenge which is A RADICAL motive for HIM. While he may have approached from behind the deputy, the deputy WAS armed. The deputy in this case was doing nothing wrong and had no reason to be targeted kunless the investigation and or trial divulges an ulterior motive.

This was A SINGLE criminal act by A SINGLE RADICAL CRIMINAL. This IS NOT the view or belief of black PEOPLE as A WHOLE.


i won't argue with that, the whole point i'm trying to make is blacks kill more blacks than any other group in the US right now...
calling cops racist, or saying they are singling out blacks, is only hampering the police in doing there job in making sure 9 year old little girls can do their homework and at the very least, grow up into adulthood... if it's a black on black crime, why would police be hassling white people? are white people going to know if tyronne shot someone? no, they are going to interview/question the people that were around the crime... and if a thug decides he's being harrased by the police and pulls a gun out, guess whats going to happen?

there's racists in every color, but that doesn't mean everyone is a racist...

You won't argue a self defeating argument? False.
Anyone calling any particular cop or cops as a whole racist had NOTHING to do with that 9 year old girls death which for the 10th time wasn't intended or even known by the shooter. That's a red herring, a logical fallacy.
Nobody is complaining about being questioned as a witness to a crime. Pointless.
The scenario you created didn't occur. What did happen was several unarmed blacks were shot dead by SOME police officers, some for no reason at all without using their
Taxpayer funded training
Taxpayer funded pepper spray
Taxpayer funded tazer
Taxpayer funded club or
Taxpayer funded non lethal shots which they are trained to do.
They are also trained to step out of the way if someone is coming towards them unarmed.

Black police are not shooting white 'suspects' on sight.
Questioning when police commit crimes and enforce laws with racial bias does more to help good cops who are doing their jobs well. When police kill people on camera like Eric Garner who was begging for his life, having those officers stay employed even in another precinct hurts good cops who know how to write a ticket. If Garner had been ticketed or even arrested for the minor nonviolent crime he committed, no one would be angry about it. Millions of AMERICANS would never had known his name. Samuel Dubose if given a ticketed for his minor moving violation, would have had to pay fees and fines that would help Cincinnati City and university police do their jobs. Its not just Baltimore, Ferguson, L.A., NYC, these things are happening everywhere. The difference now from 20 years ago is there are more cameras recording what's going on and more people have access to more media almost constantly. It stands to reason that more people are going to know about the gross injustices, more people are going to be talking about them, more people are going to be angered by what they see.
Criminals are expected to commit crimes, including murder. Police know this before they work their first shift. They know their job is dangerous and often deadly.
Civilians, unarmed American citizens, either not committing crimes or crimes minor enough to not be a jailable offense should not be killed by police.


happens a lot more than the media will tell you...
http://www.youngcons.com/unarmed-white-man-was-killed-by-a-black-cop-look-how-the-media-responds/

http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/black-cop-kills-white-man-media-hide-race/

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/aug/21/michael-medved/talk-show-host-police-kill-more-whites-blacks/

http://www.texasgopvote.com/issues/restore-families/justice-james-black-cop-shoots-unarmed-white-veteran-orange-tx-over-racial-slur-0057061

a simple search will get you thousands of hits of black cops killing white men... we just don't see it as a child would, meaning the cops have their job to do, while a majority of thugs see it as they wanna do what they want, when they want, however they want without following any laws...

there's a reason why the media doesn't show these killings, and i already told you why....



4, well actually 3.
youngcons... Sounds offputting, but looks to be the closest you
have to proving a point. You depend on young cons to prove a point.

The second link is actually a sentence. A sentence anyone who understands the concept of media knows would hold no merit. The media doesn't hide things involving crime unless there is a gag order. Gag orders are not A construct of the media, they are a control measure over the media to keep them from compromising an investigation. More often than not the media aids investigations. Otherwise every citizen would have to go to their local precinct or agency 3 times a day or more to know who the police are looking for.

The talkshow topic is irrelevant because it is not simple math. It's proportion.
3/10*a=
3/10*b=
If (a) represents the white population which we know for a fact is much larger than the black population (b) + the rest of the minority groups then we know that statement has to be false. This is also invalid because all whites killed by police were not A. racially profiled B. unarmed C. killed for a minor and in many cases non jailable offense if any and D. at least one or all of A B and C + killed by black police.

The third is supposedly a man killed by a black officer over use of a racial slur.
... this doesn't help your argument much at all.
Besides the fact that black PEOPLE don't all break laws or break all laws, that still doesn't give police regardless of their color the right to kill them. That's not childish, that the law.

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Sun 08/30/15 08:21 PM

I won't subscribe to hate crimes. A crime is a crime....period

That is a good way to look at it. It's a noble thought, but in the pursuit of actual justice motive is important.
As it was pointed out earlier in this thread when one is taxed without being represented and the punishments do not fit the crimes you don't have justice.
We all know know that crooked cops exist.
- As with any other part of society SOME will be criminals.
- SOME, not all, but SOME will be racist.
- - Of those subsets, some will disproportionately mete out mock 'justice'.
- - -A smaller subcategory of the above will act on an urge with lethality. (1)

A separate group of officers will forget the years of training and
several nonlethal types protection they have before they draw aim and fire their guns, sometimes several times, sometimes when there was never a threat in the first place, sometimes killing their target. (2)

Wouldn't it be a problem towards police protecting the public if any of these real activities occured regularly?
Wouldn't good cops be more safe if these things were not allowed to go unchecked, especially when people are watching it happen. Don't police tell citizens that see crime to come forward? We want police to do that too.
When people find out that (1) and (2) are as common as they are we as a NATION should be upset. What happened to this deputy IS NOT how to show our anger. This SINGLE act by a SINGLE criminal solves nothing.

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Sun 08/30/15 07:33 PM


How did the thread turn into a racist thing.
A cop was killed by a coward that had an agenda

Nothing has been proven in the media..
IF so please provide the links to support this

I have seen nothing about this Police Officer that even suggests he was a Racist of any type..

The coward that killed him I have heard speculation of media hype but I have seen nothing to be proven.

Please provide the links of that also





whats proof? what kind of proof would satisfy you? do you think they are going to let the gunman talk to the media? only thing you will hear is what the cops tell us he said. everyone keeps calling him a coward, no, he's a diseased hater, nothing more... calling him a coward is just to pleasant of a term for him...

Didn't 20/20 do an exclusive interview of Darren Wilson?

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Sun 08/30/15 07:25 PM






death is sweeter than continued life under tyranny

ISNT THAT THE SELLING POINT OF THE CHERISHED 2nd AMENDMENT?

has the constitution caused assassins throughout history to kill politicians?


"tyranny" doesn't mean you can do whatever you like and not get hassled by the cops...


when people are breaking the law, they should expect to get hassled by the police...

so your definition of tyranny doesn't apply here...
It's obvious that tyranny is in reference to injustice. Its also obviouse he is reffering to the many killings by police of unarmed people, while rarely prosecuted. Rarely prosecuted is indeed tyranny because it fall under injustice.

Tamir Rice was a kid playing with a toy, police shoot and kill him and not even reprimanded. Thats what people are protesting. Not the shooting of criminals. Really quite simple.


how quickly you change your tune.... read back on some of your posts about how most everyone you've cried about was a 2 time felon... and not once did you have anything to say about the innocents like the 9 year shot by another black, while doing her homework...

it really is that simple, you wanna throw your racist views around, while completely ignoring the real problem, which is the crimes committed by these thugs against the real innocents, and then call cops racist...

people with that attitude is the problem, not the police...

Police as a whole are not racist, racists in some cases are police.
Black people are not racist as a whole.
White people are not racist as a whole.
Just so that's clear.

The PERSON pictured above is not in a gilley suit. He's not wearing camouflage. The high contrast outfit much like the high contrast billboard is very visible. He's also walking upright
nothing sneaky about his captured posture which indicates that he is not afraid to be seen. So the PERSON pictured above APPEARS to be determined to be seen committing murder. Premeditated cold blooded REvenge which is A RADICAL motive for HIM. While he may have approached from behind the deputy, the deputy WAS armed. The deputy in this case was doing nothing wrong and had no reason to be targeted unless the investigation and or trial divulges an ulterior motive.

This was A SINGLE criminal act by A SINGLE RADICAL CRIMINAL. This IS NOT the view or belief of black PEOPLE as A WHOLE.


i won't argue with that, the whole point i'm trying to make is blacks kill more blacks than any other group in the US right now...
calling cops racist, or saying they are singling out blacks, is only hampering the police in doing there job in making sure 9 year old little girls can do their homework and at the very least, grow up into adulthood... if it's a black on black crime, why would police be hassling white people? are white people going to know if tyronne shot someone? no, they are going to interview/question the people that were around the crime... and if a thug decides he's being harrased by the police and pulls a gun out, guess whats going to happen?

there's racists in every color, but that doesn't mean everyone is a racist...

You won't argue a self defeating argument? False.
Anyone calling any particular cop or cops as a whole racist had NOTHING to do with that 9 year old girls death which for the 10th time wasn't intended or even known by the shooter. That's a red herring, a logical fallacy.
Nobody is complaining about being questioned as a witness to a crime. Pointless.
The scenario you created didn't occur. What did happen was several unarmed blacks were shot dead by SOME police officers, some for no reason at all without using their
Taxpayer funded training
Taxpayer funded pepper spray
Taxpayer funded tazer
Taxpayer funded club or
Taxpayer funded non lethal shots which they are trained to do.
They are also trained to step out of the way if someone is coming towards them unarmed.

Black police are not shooting white 'suspects' on sight.
Questioning when police commit crimes and enforce laws with racial bias does more to help good cops who are doing their jobs well. When police kill people on camera like Eric Garner who was begging for his life, having those officers stay employed even in another precinct hurts good cops who know how to write a ticket. If Garner had been ticketed or even arrested for the minor nonviolent crime he committed, no one would be angry about it. Millions of AMERICANS would never had known his name. Samuel Dubose if given a ticketed for his minor moving violation, would have had to pay fees and fines that would help Cincinnati City and university police do their jobs. Its not just Baltimore, Ferguson, L.A., NYC, these things are happening everywhere. The difference now from 20 years ago is there are more cameras recording what's going on and more people have access to more media almost constantly. It stands to reason that more people are going to know about the gross injustices, more people are going to be talking about them, more people are going to be angered by what they see.
Criminals are expected to commit crimes, including murder. Police know this before they work their first shift. They know their job is dangerous and often deadly.
Civilians, unarmed American citizens, either not committing crimes or crimes minor enough to not be a jailable offense should not be killed by police.


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Sun 08/30/15 03:07 PM




death is sweeter than continued life under tyranny

ISNT THAT THE SELLING POINT OF THE CHERISHED 2nd AMENDMENT?

has the constitution caused assassins throughout history to kill politicians?


"tyranny" doesn't mean you can do whatever you like and not get hassled by the cops...


when people are breaking the law, they should expect to get hassled by the police...

so your definition of tyranny doesn't apply here...
It's obvious that tyranny is in reference to injustice. Its also obviouse he is reffering to the many killings by police of unarmed people, while rarely prosecuted. Rarely prosecuted is indeed tyranny because it fall under injustice.

Tamir Rice was a kid playing with a toy, police shoot and kill him and not even reprimanded. Thats what people are protesting. Not the shooting of criminals. Really quite simple.


how quickly you change your tune.... read back on some of your posts about how most everyone you've cried about was a 2 time felon... and not once did you have anything to say about the innocents like the 9 year shot by another black, while doing her homework...

it really is that simple, you wanna throw your racist views around, while completely ignoring the real problem, which is the crimes committed by these thugs against the real innocents, and then call cops racist...

people with that attitude is the problem, not the police...

Police as a whole are not racist, racists in some cases are police.
Black people are not racist as a whole.
White people are not racist as a whole.
Just so that's clear.

The PERSON pictured above is not in a gilley suit. He's not wearing camouflage. The high contrast outfit much like the high contrast billboard is very visible. He's also walking upright
nothing sneaky about his captured posture which indicates that he is not afraid to be seen. So the PERSON pictured above APPEARS to be determined to be seen committing murder. Premeditated cold blooded REvenge which is A RADICAL motive for HIM. While he may have approached from behind the deputy, the deputy WAS armed. The deputy in this case was doing nothing wrong and had no reason to be targeted unless the investigation and or trial divulges an ulterior motive.

This was A SINGLE criminal act by A SINGLE RADICAL CRIMINAL. This IS NOT the view or belief of black PEOPLE as A WHOLE.

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Sat 08/29/15 09:37 PM

Lol..

But, I don't know how someone could spin out of this?.. I really don't. I suppose some will try to say that someone else used their e-mail account.. but I wouldn't buy that line.

I read where 2 people committed suicide because of this.. so the ramifications are huge. I also read where there were only 3 zip codes in all of America that did NOT have a member registered... only 3!

I have noticed that cougarlife.com has been advertising pretty heavily on some unexpected channels, I'm guessing the majority of real paying members on Ashely Madison were men.
Shameless diversion IMO but if it weren't remotely profitable they wouldn't be in business.

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Sat 08/29/15 06:29 PM

North Korea Has a Meth Problem





Oh, slaphead you're North Korean, I thought I detected an accent I just couldn't place it. That explains a lot.

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Sat 08/29/15 04:16 PM
Does this qualify for the death penalty?

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Sat 08/29/15 01:19 PM
R.I.P. Deputy Goforth, prayers and condolences to the family and friends. This is unacceptable and inexcusable. Hopefully the RADICAL group behind this is dismantled and imprisoned for conspiring and as accomplices to this murder.

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Sat 08/29/15 12:51 PM
Isn't it a crime to pay chaotes to smuggle someone over the border? Is it not also a crime to cross the border illegaly? 4 down 11-30 million to go.