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MICHAEL TARM Associated Press
WATCH: Inside the Manhunt for the Fox Lake Cop Killers CHICAGO — The killing of a veteran police officer north of Chicago is the latest in a string of recent law enforcement deaths. Lt. Charles Joseph Gliniewicz' death on Tuesday triggered a manhunt for three suspects around the small Illinois community where the 52-year-old officer worked. A look at some of the latest slayings and data on other officer killings: ——— HOW MANY OFFICERS HAVE DIED? Gliniewicz was the eighth law enforcement officer shot and killed in the U.S. in the last month and the fourth in 10 days, according to the Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund, which tracks officers' deaths so their names can be enshrined on a Washington, D.C., memorial. Steve Groeninger, a spokesman for the group, said four fatal shootings in recent days is a higher rate than usual. ——— IS THAT AN INCREASE? No. Shooting deaths of officers are actually down 13 percent compared with the same January-to-September period in 2014. There were 30 shootings last year and 26 this year. Those figures include state and local officers, as well as federal agents. The figures also include two accidental shootings, Groeninger said. Suicides are not included. Deaths have declined through the decades. The average number of officer shooting deaths for the first six months of each year — which is how the memorial fund gauges trends — was 62 through the 1970s. The worst half-year period over the past five decades was in 1973, when 84 officers were shot and killed in the first six months alone. Through the early 2000s, the six-month average fell to 29. More than 20,500 names are inscribed in marble on the memorial in Washington. They include officers killed in attacks and in accidents from 1791 through 2015. ——— WHERE WERE THE OTHER RECENT KILLINGS? Darren Goforth was shot and killed Aug. 28 in suburban Houston as the Harris County deputy stopped to put gas in his patrol car. Henry Nelson, an officer in Sunset, Louisiana, was shot and killed Aug. 26 while responding to a domestic-violence call. Louisiana State trooper Steven J. Vincent died Aug. 14 after being shot in the head while assisting a motorist. ——— DO THE NUMBERS INDICATE ANYTHING? Groeninger cautioned that it was too soon to say if officer deaths are trending up. "The data doesn't say that yet," he said. He also said there is no clearly identifiable pattern in the killings and no conclusions to draw for now, other than "there are people out there who intend to harm police officers for whatever reason." ——— HOW MANY OFFICERS HAVE BEEN SPECIFICALLY TARGETED? During the last 12 months, six officers appear to have been targeted specifically because they worked in law enforcement, according to the memorial fund. That includes the Texas deputy, as well as two New York City officers who were shot and killed in December as they sat in their patrol car. Elsewhere, an officer for the Housing Authority of New Orleans was fatally shot in his patrol car on May 24. In California, a San Jose Police Department officer was killed March 24 responding to a call that a man was threatening to kill himself. A Pennsylvania State Police officer was shot and killed on Sept. 14, 2014, outside a police barracks by someone wielding a rifle. ——— WHAT AGENCIES DID THE SLAIN OFFICERS WORK FOR? City police account for the largest number of officers killed in shootings. Out of the 26 officers killed nationwide so far this year, 17 were on city forces, four were with the county and three with the state. One federal agent and one tribal officer were also killed, according to the memorial fund. |
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Deaths have declined through the decades. The average number of officer shooting deaths for the first SIX MONTHS of each year — which is how the memorial fund gauges trends was 62 through the 1970s. Interesting statistics. Thank you for sharing GC. The Ostrich Society will surely ignore it though. |
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good luck getting the information past the epidemic of tunnelvision,,
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Read somewhere that Police applications and recruiting are way down.
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Police face recruiting shortage due to war on cops By Edmund DeMarche September 7, 2015 California Highway Patrol Officer J. Nelson stands outside the office of Gov. Jerry Brown as protestors shouting "black lives matter" block the hallway, demanding passage of an anti-racial profiling, bill on Sept. 2. Photo: AP Police departments face a recruiting shortage amid a growing anti-cop mood that some fear has taken the pride out of peacekeeping and put targets on the backs of the men and women in blue. Open calls for the killing of police have been followed by assassinations, including last week’s murder in Texas of a Harris County sheriff’s deputy. Instead of dialing back the incendiary rhetoric, groups including “Black Lives Matter” have instead doubled down at demonstrations with chants of “Pigs in a blanket, fry ’em like bacon.” Public safety officials fear the net effect has been to demonize police, and diminish the job. “It’s a lot harder to sell now,” Jeff Roorda, business manager of the St. Louis Police Officers Association and former state representative, told FoxNews.com. “This is a very real phenomenon.” Roorda’s colleagues witnessed the fierce, anti-police rioting that followed the police shooting last year of Michael Brown in nearby Ferguson, Missouri. Even though a grand jury and a federal Justice Department inquiry did not fault Ferguson Police Officer Darren Wilson, debunked claims that the cop killed Brown as he held his hands up and begged for his life have animated the Black Lives Matter movement as it spread around the nation. Roorda, who spoke in defense of police in the aftermath of the Ferguson shooting, said protesters took to Twitter to promote a #KillRoorda hashtag. “You no longer just have to worry about your life while in uniform,” he said. “Now you have to be worried about the well-being of your family,” he said. Roorda said the new academy class continues to be delayed and the police force loses about double the amount of officers per year than in the past. Knowing police face public scorn or career-ending legal battles even if they acted properly has convinced many prospective cops to abandon their dreams of patrolling America’s streets. “I saw all this anti-cop propaganda and I was like, ‘Who needs this?’” said Antonio, a New Yorker who asked that only his first name be used. The 32-year-old had applied and been accepted into the NYPD academy, but withdrew his candidacy amid the cop-bashing climate sweeping the country. “Black Lives Matter” protesters march in Los Angeles on Aug. 11. Photo: Reuters Even top police brass understand why the shield has lost its shine. “Right now, policing is not the most attractive occupation that they could probably get into,” Philadelphia Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey told CBS. Recruitment nationally is “way down,” said Jonathan Thompson, executive director of the National Sheriff’s Association. He said some sheriffs around the country say the number of applications has fallen by as much as 50 percent. While blatant calls for killing cops are unusual, the job has always been dangerous. The National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund, which monitors the number of police officers killed in the line of duty, tabulated 48 police officers around the nation were killed by gunfire in 2014. So far this year, 26 law enforcement officers have been shot to death on duty, putting the nation on track for a 19 percent decrease. But these numbers do not identify police officers intentionally targeted for the mere fact that they wear a badge. Police in Texas believe that may have been the sole motivation for the murder Friday night of Harris County Sheriff’s Officer Darren Goforth at a gas station in a Houston suburb. The suspect in that case, Shannon Jaruay Miles, allegedly came up behind Goforth as he pumped gas and shot the officer 15 times. Harris County Deputy Darren Goforth Photo: EPA In December 2014, New York City Police Officers Wenjian Liu and his partner Rafael Ramos were killed in an ambush while sitting inside their patrol car on a Brooklyn streetcorner. “No warning, no provocation,” Police Commissioner William Bratton said at the time. “They were quite simply assassinated, targeted for their uniform.” The gunman reportedly announced online that he was planning to shoot two “pigs” to avenge the death of Eric Garner, a Staten Island man who died after being put in a chokehold by police who were arresting him for selling loose cigarettes. “I’m putting wings on pigs today. They take 1 of ours, let’s take 2 of theirs,” Ismaaiyl Brinsley wrote on an Instagram account. Brinsley killed himself on a subway platform as police closed in on him. There is currently a massive manhunt in Fox Lake, Ill., after a police officer was shot and killed while pursuing a group of men. Lt. Charles Joseph Gliniewicz, known affectionately as “GI Joe” was giving chase to three men on foot. In addition to the Brown and Garner cases, the anti-police sentiment has been fueled by the April death in police custody of Freddie Gray in Baltimore and the fatal shooting, also in April, of Walter Scott in South Carolina. Six Baltimore police officers face charges in the death of Gray, who died of injuries suffered while being transported in a police van. North Charleston Police Officer Michael Slager has been charged with murder in Scott’s shooting. Galvanized by the deaths, Black Lives Matter has sought to bring attention to the issue of police brutality with protests around the nation. “What’s more uncomfortable, shouting, stopping freeways and interrupting speeches — or being murdered by police and having your body left in the street for more than four hours, or turning up dead in a jail cell after a traffic stop?” the group posted on Facebook. ‘WE’RE SITTING DUCKS. WE’RE IN THESE UNIFORMS, BRIGHTLY COLORED CARS AND THERE’S NOTHING WE CAN DO.’ - Sgt. Delroy Burton, DC Police Union Some law enforcement officials believe President Obama has fanned the flames by not denouncing the movement more unequivocally, although he did personally call the widow of Goforth and has condemned violence against police. “President Obama has breathed life into this ugly movement,” Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke told “Fox & Friends.” “And it is time now for good, law-abiding Americans to rise up. We now have to counter this slime, this filth coming out of these cop haters.” Sgt. Delroy Burton, chairman of the DC Police Union in Washington, compared the current treatment of police to veterans returning from the Vietnam War. “We have to fight the bad guys, and the policymakers go unnoticed,” he said. Burton, who was born in Jamaica and is a former U.S. Marine, said his police force is about 131 officers understaffed and has seen nearly 600 officers resign in the past 19 months — a number he said is unheard of. “We’re sitting ducks,” he said. “We’re in these uniforms, brightly colored cars and there’s nothing we can do. And the vast majority supports this loud vocal minority. |
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DO THE NUMBERS INDICATE ANYTHING?
Groeninger cautioned that it was too soon to say if officer deaths are trending up. "The data doesn't say that yet," he said. He also said there is no clearly identifiable pattern in the killings and no conclusions to draw for now, other than "there are people out there who intend to harm police officers for whatever reason." HOW MANY OFFICERS HAVE BEEN SPECIFICALLY TARGETED? During the last 12 months, six officers appear to have been targeted specifically because they worked in law enforcement, according to the memorial fund. That includes the Texas deputy, as well as two New York City officers who were shot and killed in December as they sat in their patrol car. http://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2015/09/02/a-look-at-recent-law-enforcement-deaths-across-the-us/ ------------------------------------ Cop killed last week. September 3, 2015 http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/03/us/illinois-police-officer-shot/ 14 hours ago( same case) http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/coroner-illinois-police-officer-killed-single-gunshot-33643293/ |
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ABC news Police face recruiting shortage due to war on cops By Edmund DeMarche September 7, 2015 California Highway Patrol Officer J. Nelson stands outside the office of Gov. Jerry Brown as protestors shouting "black lives matter" block the hallway, demanding passage of an anti-racial profiling, bill on Sept. 2. Photo: AP Police departments face a recruiting shortage amid a growing anti-cop mood that some fear has taken the pride out of peacekeeping and put targets on the backs of the men and women in blue. Open calls for the killing of police have been followed by assassinations, including last week’s murder in Texas of a Harris County sheriff’s deputy. Instead of dialing back the incendiary rhetoric, groups including “Black Lives Matter” have instead doubled down at demonstrations with chants of “Pigs in a blanket, fry ’em like bacon.” Public safety officials fear the net effect has been to demonize police, and diminish the job. “It’s a lot harder to sell now,” Jeff Roorda, business manager of the St. Louis Police Officers Association and former state representative, told FoxNews.com. “This is a very real phenomenon.” Roorda’s colleagues witnessed the fierce, anti-police rioting that followed the police shooting last year of Michael Brown in nearby Ferguson, Missouri. Even though a grand jury and a federal Justice Department inquiry did not fault Ferguson Police Officer Darren Wilson, debunked claims that the cop killed Brown as he held his hands up and begged for his life have animated the Black Lives Matter movement as it spread around the nation. Roorda, who spoke in defense of police in the aftermath of the Ferguson shooting, said protesters took to Twitter to promote a #KillRoorda hashtag. “You no longer just have to worry about your life while in uniform,” he said. “Now you have to be worried about the well-being of your family,” he said. Roorda said the new academy class continues to be delayed and the police force loses about double the amount of officers per year than in the past. Knowing police face public scorn or career-ending legal battles even if they acted properly has convinced many prospective cops to abandon their dreams of patrolling America’s streets. “I saw all this anti-cop propaganda and I was like, ‘Who needs this?’” said Antonio, a New Yorker who asked that only his first name be used. The 32-year-old had applied and been accepted into the NYPD academy, but withdrew his candidacy amid the cop-bashing climate sweeping the country. “Black Lives Matter” protesters march in Los Angeles on Aug. 11. Photo: Reuters Even top police brass understand why the shield has lost its shine. “Right now, policing is not the most attractive occupation that they could probably get into,” Philadelphia Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey told CBS. Recruitment nationally is “way down,” said Jonathan Thompson, executive director of the National Sheriff’s Association. He said some sheriffs around the country say the number of applications has fallen by as much as 50 percent. While blatant calls for killing cops are unusual, the job has always been dangerous. The National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund, which monitors the number of police officers killed in the line of duty, tabulated 48 police officers around the nation were killed by gunfire in 2014. So far this year, 26 law enforcement officers have been shot to death on duty, putting the nation on track for a 19 percent decrease. But these numbers do not identify police officers intentionally targeted for the mere fact that they wear a badge. Police in Texas believe that may have been the sole motivation for the murder Friday night of Harris County Sheriff’s Officer Darren Goforth at a gas station in a Houston suburb. The suspect in that case, Shannon Jaruay Miles, allegedly came up behind Goforth as he pumped gas and shot the officer 15 times. Harris County Deputy Darren Goforth Photo: EPA In December 2014, New York City Police Officers Wenjian Liu and his partner Rafael Ramos were killed in an ambush while sitting inside their patrol car on a Brooklyn streetcorner. “No warning, no provocation,” Police Commissioner William Bratton said at the time. “They were quite simply assassinated, targeted for their uniform.” The gunman reportedly announced online that he was planning to shoot two “pigs” to avenge the death of Eric Garner, a Staten Island man who died after being put in a chokehold by police who were arresting him for selling loose cigarettes. “I’m putting wings on pigs today. They take 1 of ours, let’s take 2 of theirs,” Ismaaiyl Brinsley wrote on an Instagram account. Brinsley killed himself on a subway platform as police closed in on him. There is currently a massive manhunt in Fox Lake, Ill., after a police officer was shot and killed while pursuing a group of men. Lt. Charles Joseph Gliniewicz, known affectionately as “GI Joe” was giving chase to three men on foot. In addition to the Brown and Garner cases, the anti-police sentiment has been fueled by the April death in police custody of Freddie Gray in Baltimore and the fatal shooting, also in April, of Walter Scott in South Carolina. Six Baltimore police officers face charges in the death of Gray, who died of injuries suffered while being transported in a police van. North Charleston Police Officer Michael Slager has been charged with murder in Scott’s shooting. Galvanized by the deaths, Black Lives Matter has sought to bring attention to the issue of police brutality with protests around the nation. “What’s more uncomfortable, shouting, stopping freeways and interrupting speeches — or being murdered by police and having your body left in the street for more than four hours, or turning up dead in a jail cell after a traffic stop?” the group posted on Facebook. ‘WE’RE SITTING DUCKS. WE’RE IN THESE UNIFORMS, BRIGHTLY COLORED CARS AND THERE’S NOTHING WE CAN DO.’ - Sgt. Delroy Burton, DC Police Union Some law enforcement officials believe President Obama has fanned the flames by not denouncing the movement more unequivocally, although he did personally call the widow of Goforth and has condemned violence against police. “President Obama has breathed life into this ugly movement,” Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke told “Fox & Friends.” “And it is time now for good, law-abiding Americans to rise up. We now have to counter this slime, this filth coming out of these cop haters.” Sgt. Delroy Burton, chairman of the DC Police Union in Washington, compared the current treatment of police to veterans returning from the Vietnam War. “We have to fight the bad guys, and the policymakers go unnoticed,” he said. Burton, who was born in Jamaica and is a former U.S. Marine, said his police force is about 131 officers understaffed and has seen nearly 600 officers resign in the past 19 months — a number he said is unheard of. “We’re sitting ducks,” he said. “We’re in these uniforms, brightly colored cars and there’s nothing we can do. And the vast majority supports this loud vocal minority. Let's point out the FACT that the 30SECOND 1 time 1 place chant (no actual crimes were committed at that rally) happened BEFORE the shooting of Harris County Sheriffs Deputy Goforth, since his OWN sheriff referenced the chant at the initial press conference on the day of the shooting. The BLM Movement did not instruct that rally to use that chant AFTER the shooting, the rally used the chant for 30 SECONDS 1 time BEFORE the shooting. The BLM Movement did not instruct the rally to use that chant at all. Goforths murder has NOTHING to do with the BLM movement. The shooter of the 2 officers in New York had NOTHING to do with the BLM movement. That was premeditated murder planned and carried out by 1 man. Lt. Gliniewicz death (officially since the Fox Lake coroner has not ruled out suicide or released any details about the 1 devastating gunshot wound) has NOTHING to do with the BLM movement. |
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ABC news Police face recruiting shortage due to war on cops By Edmund DeMarche September 7, 2015 California Highway Patrol Officer J. Nelson stands outside the office of Gov. Jerry Brown as protestors shouting "black lives matter" block the hallway, demanding passage of an anti-racial profiling, bill on Sept. 2. Photo: AP Police departments face a recruiting shortage amid a growing anti-cop mood that some fear has taken the pride out of peacekeeping and put targets on the backs of the men and women in blue. Open calls for the killing of police have been followed by assassinations, including last week’s murder in Texas of a Harris County sheriff’s deputy. Instead of dialing back the incendiary rhetoric, groups including “Black Lives Matter” have instead doubled down at demonstrations with chants of “Pigs in a blanket, fry ’em like bacon.” Public safety officials fear the net effect has been to demonize police, and diminish the job. “It’s a lot harder to sell now,” Jeff Roorda, business manager of the St. Louis Police Officers Association and former state representative, told FoxNews.com. “This is a very real phenomenon.” Roorda’s colleagues witnessed the fierce, anti-police rioting that followed the police shooting last year of Michael Brown in nearby Ferguson, Missouri. Even though a grand jury and a federal Justice Department inquiry did not fault Ferguson Police Officer Darren Wilson, debunked claims that the cop killed Brown as he held his hands up and begged for his life have animated the Black Lives Matter movement as it spread around the nation. Roorda, who spoke in defense of police in the aftermath of the Ferguson shooting, said protesters took to Twitter to promote a #KillRoorda hashtag. “You no longer just have to worry about your life while in uniform,” he said. “Now you have to be worried about the well-being of your family,” he said. Roorda said the new academy class continues to be delayed and the police force loses about double the amount of officers per year than in the past. Knowing police face public scorn or career-ending legal battles even if they acted properly has convinced many prospective cops to abandon their dreams of patrolling America’s streets. “I saw all this anti-cop propaganda and I was like, ‘Who needs this?’” said Antonio, a New Yorker who asked that only his first name be used. The 32-year-old had applied and been accepted into the NYPD academy, but withdrew his candidacy amid the cop-bashing climate sweeping the country. “Black Lives Matter” protesters march in Los Angeles on Aug. 11. Photo: Reuters Even top police brass understand why the shield has lost its shine. “Right now, policing is not the most attractive occupation that they could probably get into,” Philadelphia Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey told CBS. Recruitment nationally is “way down,” said Jonathan Thompson, executive director of the National Sheriff’s Association. He said some sheriffs around the country say the number of applications has fallen by as much as 50 percent. While blatant calls for killing cops are unusual, the job has always been dangerous. The National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund, which monitors the number of police officers killed in the line of duty, tabulated 48 police officers around the nation were killed by gunfire in 2014. So far this year, 26 law enforcement officers have been shot to death on duty, putting the nation on track for a 19 percent decrease. But these numbers do not identify police officers intentionally targeted for the mere fact that they wear a badge. Police in Texas believe that may have been the sole motivation for the murder Friday night of Harris County Sheriff’s Officer Darren Goforth at a gas station in a Houston suburb. The suspect in that case, Shannon Jaruay Miles, allegedly came up behind Goforth as he pumped gas and shot the officer 15 times. Harris County Deputy Darren Goforth Photo: EPA In December 2014, New York City Police Officers Wenjian Liu and his partner Rafael Ramos were killed in an ambush while sitting inside their patrol car on a Brooklyn streetcorner. “No warning, no provocation,” Police Commissioner William Bratton said at the time. “They were quite simply assassinated, targeted for their uniform.” The gunman reportedly announced online that he was planning to shoot two “pigs” to avenge the death of Eric Garner, a Staten Island man who died after being put in a chokehold by police who were arresting him for selling loose cigarettes. “I’m putting wings on pigs today. They take 1 of ours, let’s take 2 of theirs,” Ismaaiyl Brinsley wrote on an Instagram account. Brinsley killed himself on a subway platform as police closed in on him. There is currently a massive manhunt in Fox Lake, Ill., after a police officer was shot and killed while pursuing a group of men. Lt. Charles Joseph Gliniewicz, known affectionately as “GI Joe” was giving chase to three men on foot. In addition to the Brown and Garner cases, the anti-police sentiment has been fueled by the April death in police custody of Freddie Gray in Baltimore and the fatal shooting, also in April, of Walter Scott in South Carolina. Six Baltimore police officers face charges in the death of Gray, who died of injuries suffered while being transported in a police van. North Charleston Police Officer Michael Slager has been charged with murder in Scott’s shooting. Galvanized by the deaths, Black Lives Matter has sought to bring attention to the issue of police brutality with protests around the nation. “What’s more uncomfortable, shouting, stopping freeways and interrupting speeches — or being murdered by police and having your body left in the street for more than four hours, or turning up dead in a jail cell after a traffic stop?” the group posted on Facebook. ‘WE’RE SITTING DUCKS. WE’RE IN THESE UNIFORMS, BRIGHTLY COLORED CARS AND THERE’S NOTHING WE CAN DO.’ - Sgt. Delroy Burton, DC Police Union Some law enforcement officials believe President Obama has fanned the flames by not denouncing the movement more unequivocally, although he did personally call the widow of Goforth and has condemned violence against police. “President Obama has breathed life into this ugly movement,” Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke told “Fox & Friends.” “And it is time now for good, law-abiding Americans to rise up. We now have to counter this slime, this filth coming out of these cop haters.” Sgt. Delroy Burton, chairman of the DC Police Union in Washington, compared the current treatment of police to veterans returning from the Vietnam War. “We have to fight the bad guys, and the policymakers go unnoticed,” he said. Burton, who was born in Jamaica and is a former U.S. Marine, said his police force is about 131 officers understaffed and has seen nearly 600 officers resign in the past 19 months — a number he said is unheard of. “We’re sitting ducks,” he said. “We’re in these uniforms, brightly colored cars and there’s nothing we can do. And the vast majority supports this loud vocal minority. Let's point out the FACT that the 30SECOND 1 time 1 place chant (no actual crimes were committed at that rally) happened BEFORE the shooting of Harris County Sheriffs Deputy Goforth, since his OWN sheriff referenced the chant at the initial press conference on the day of the shooting. The BLM Movement did not instruct that rally to use that chant AFTER the shooting, the rally used the chant for 30 SECONDS 1 time BEFORE the shooting. The BLM Movement did not instruct the rally to use that chant at all. Goforths murder has NOTHING to do with the BLM movement. The shooter of the 2 officers in New York had NOTHING to do with the BLM movement. That was premeditated murder planned and carried out by 1 man. Lt. Gliniewicz death (officially since the Fox Lake coroner has not ruled out suicide or released any details about the 1 devastating gunshot wound) has NOTHING to do with the BLM movement. Ummm... Goforth died on August 28th. http://www.legacy.com/funerals/claire-brothers-houston/obituary.aspx?pid=175731915 The march and chant were August 29th.. The group's protest came hours after suburban Houston officer Darren Goforth was gunned down. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3217754/Black-Lives-Matter-backs-pigs-blanket-fry-em-like-bacon-chant-Minnesota.html So the premise of your entire post is ......... wrong |
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Germannchocolate, how many people are needed to start a 'hategroup'?
If they used a forum to spout their hate, would that count? Or are they simply conspiracy theorists? |
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Germannchocolate, how many people are needed to start a 'hategroup'? If they used a forum to spout their hate, would that count? Or are they simply conspiracy theorists? The same number it takes to start a "misinformation" campaign and at least one apologist to back their false claims. |
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Germannchocolate, how many people are needed to start a 'hategroup'? If they used a forum to spout their hate, would that count? Or are they simply conspiracy theorists? The same number it takes to start a "misinformation" campaign and at least one apologist to back their false claims. Oh, how I agree with your statement.... Well said. |
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Germannchocolate, how many people are needed to start a 'hategroup'? If they used a forum to spout their hate, would that count? Or are they simply conspiracy theorists? The same number it takes to start a "misinformation" campaign and at least one apologist to back their false claims. Daily mail. co UK as in across the pond as in United Kingdom Consider the source. If "the protest came hours after the Harris County Sheriffs Deputy was gunned down", how could it have happened on a different day? |
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Protest began August 29th 11a.m.
Sat Aug 29, 2015 | 3:04 PM EDT Black Lives Matter marches on Minnesota State Fair By Marisa Helms ST PAUL, Minn. (Reuters) - Several hundred protesters from the Black Lives Matter movement marched to the Minnesota State Fair on Saturday to bring attention to race issues ranging from policing to underrepresentation of minorities at one of the nation's biggest state fairs. The mixed-race crowd, including senior citizens and children, chanted slogans along the 1-1/2 mile route and briefly lay down on a bridge south of the fairgrounds. "There's a cliche that Minnesota is nice to everyone, but that's not the case for people of color," said 51-year-old marcher Tim, who did not want to give his last name because event organizers said they had received death threats. "As a white person I want to be vocal about that ... This (protest march) is a small inconvenience to state fair traffic compared to what people of color experience every day," he said. Fairgoers stopped to take photos of the marchers, organized by Black Lives St. Paul. "We're disturbed on a day-to-day basis. We don't mind disturbing the status quo for one day," said Trahern Crews, 40, an event organizer who is running for a seat on the St. Paul City Council. Black Lives Matter, a decentralized national movement against racism in policing and the justice system, gained momentum last year during protests over police killings of unarmed black men. The group also pressures 2016 presidential hopefuls to address issues such as mass incarcerations of African Americans. St. Paul police put on extra staff for the march, which grew louder as it neared the entrance of the fair, which attracts up to 1.8 million visitors over its 12-day run each summer. On Friday, Minnesota Governor Mark Dayton said that while he understood the interest of the demonstrators, taking their protest to the fair is "inappropriate." The demonstration is expected to stay outside the fairgrounds due to a state restriction. Rashad Turner, organizer of Black Lives St. Paul on Friday reminded protesters to remain peaceful. "Our opponents will claim victory if they push someone over the line. I don't know about you, but let's not give them the satisfaction." (Editing by Fiona Ortiz and W Simon) |
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 From the Minnesota Star Tribune Does this look like an angry black mob? |
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Germannchocolate, how many people are needed to start a 'hategroup'? If they used a forum to spout their hate, would that count? Or are they simply conspiracy theorists? The same number it takes to start a "misinformation" campaign and at least one apologist to back their false claims. I'm human it is eentirely possible for me to make a mistake. The protest took place between the original press conference and the 1 on 1 interview with the Harris County Sheriff. This means that it was IMPOSSIBLE for Miles to have seen it or use it as a MOTIVATING FACTOR in the MURDER, consciously or subconsciously, There is a difference between an op ed and a 1 on 1 interview where someone is respectful of your situation and affords you the opportunity on National tv to answer the questions of your critics by name. That's pretty rare this day and age. I have no idea what is wrong with Miles but being found mentally incompetent to stand trial in Travis County and the court ordered 6 month State mental hospitalization means they should have a very good idea of his mental condition/illnessess. To answer the lady's question, I would start by asking the people of Minnesota that joined the rally through Facebook invitations. Then I'd check the number of invited people that are actually members of the movement. Then I'd check to see which of them actually attended/participated. Then I would check to see who 'crashed the party'. Find those answers and you'll have your misinformation campaign. |
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