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U.S. direct spending on the war in Iraq already has surpassed the upper bound of Lindsey's upper bound, and most economists attribute billions more in indirect costs to the war effort. Even if the U.S. exits Iraq within another three years, total direct and indirect costs to U.S. taxpayers will likely by more than $400 billion, and one estimate puts the total economic impact at up to $2 trillion. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11880954/ so one estimate puts the total up to 2 trillion...which implies the others are lower than 2 trillion...I thought your thread stated the number was 3 trillion...sounds like there's a little contradiction here...don't you agree? they say total...but you say it all depends...I go with them and as I said the numbers are all juggled to say what they want them to say....face the music madman....your thread is a total disaster for all across this forum... 
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Joseph Stiglitz, a Nobel Prize-winning economist and self-described opponent of the war, puts the final figure at a staggering $1 trillion to $2 trillion, including $500 billion for the war and occupation and up to $300 billion in future health care costs for wounded troops. Additional costs include a negative impact from the rising cost of oil and added interest on the national debt. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11880954/page/2/ madman...now I am even more confused....this Stiglitz is the same Stiglitz who in the op article that the cost was 3 trillion?..so how come in this article he puts the final figure at $1 trillion to $2 trillion....why the contradiction..?? 
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U.S. direct spending on the war in Iraq already has surpassed the upper bound of Lindsey's upper bound, and most economists attribute billions more in indirect costs to the war effort. Even if the U.S. exits Iraq within another three years, total direct and indirect costs to U.S. taxpayers will likely by more than $400 billion, and one estimate puts the total economic impact at up to $2 trillion. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11880954/ so one estimate puts the total up to 2 trillion...which implies the others are lower than 2 trillion...I thought your thread stated the number was 3 trillion...sounds like there's a little contradiction here...don't you agree? madamn...can I get an answer to this one.... |
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U.S. direct spending on the war in Iraq already has surpassed the upper bound of Lindsey's upper bound, and most economists attribute billions more in indirect costs to the war effort. Even if the U.S. exits Iraq within another three years, total direct and indirect costs to U.S. taxpayers will likely by more than $400 billion, and one estimate puts the total economic impact at up to $2 trillion. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11880954/ so one estimate puts the total up to 2 trillion...which implies the others are lower than 2 trillion...I thought your thread stated the number was 3 trillion...sounds like there's a little contradiction here...don't you agree? |
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oh so it is a fact then..I'll be glad to read the link to those facts...
where are your links? t's funny. i find when someone lacks a point and feels threatened, they often duck out. which really, is what you do all the time |
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and you know this to be a fact?...
do you pay attention to the economy or do you just go around harping on people for ctrl+c while screaming rhetoric? oh so it is a fact then..I'll be glad to read the link to those facts... |
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I find the men to be credible and the statements accurate. to find the true cost of the war you need to factor in the interest on the money we borrowed to wage it. that interest will need to be paid untill it is paid off........what part of economics do you not understand?
you find the men to be credible?...Joseph Stiglitz and Linda Bilmes...I think Linda is a woman... and even if they were both men yopu finding them credible is laughable.....what credentials do you have for that finding to have any credibility? and what part of economics do you understand? |
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Edited by
northrn_yanke
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Thu 03/06/08 04:06 PM
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thank you toasted.I'm afraid i am not as knowledgable as most in this section so I appreciate answers to my questions.thanx again. one thing you have to keep in mind is the wizardry of accountants...two opposing sides using the same numbers will come out with totally different results, you can't believe either side...until the numbers are audited... |
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why don't you contribute to the conversation? why even post if you're just going to say "YOU COPPIED AND PASTED!! HOW DARE YOU!!??!" you mean like you are huh.... ok..we all know number can be juggled to say just about whatever you want....this is from a left wing liberal group so of course the numbers are going to be twisted in the liberals favor.. you'll agree with me that during Clinton's term there was no war going on....so where is the 3 trillion dollars from his term? what facts are you talking about?...if you beleive those numbers to be facts you're farther gone than I thought....
those number are according to who...your not that lame to think that numbers can't be juggled to suit your purpose huh...oh and have these numbers been verified by an audit? You do know what an audit is.... |
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maybe not but i was taught that historically the US economy goes up during war time..why is this war different?For the record I am anti-war.
this war is different because of the way the economy was handled. our government knowingly encuranged spending and the building of debt. they thought in short term, not long term. and you know this to be a fact?...
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Edited by
northrn_yanke
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Thu 03/06/08 03:58 PM
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with all those nuclear missles we have I cant imagine anyone actualy atacking america and starting armageden. That may be appealing to the right wing christian sect but the rest of the world doesnt think its such a good idea have you forgotten 9/11....and while we are on that subject what do your accountants say on the cost of 9/11?.... |
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why don't you contribute to the conversation? why even post if you're just going to say "YOU COPPIED AND PASTED!! HOW DARE YOU!!??!" you mean like you are huh.... ok..we all know number can be juggled to say just about whatever you want....this is from a left wing liberal group so of course the numbers are going to be twisted in the liberals favor.. you'll agree with me that during Clinton's term there was no war going on....so where is the 3 trillion dollars from his term? what facts are you talking about?...if you beleive those numbers to be facts you're farther gone than I thought....
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Topic:
Regime change
Edited by
northrn_yanke
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Thu 03/06/08 03:48 PM
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you are not a ...... small penised little man like others may think.
i guess not!! did you see the size of that sombrero
the addad!cktome operation was successful... 
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why don't you contribute to the conversation? why even post if you're just going to say "YOU COPPIED AND PASTED!! HOW DARE YOU!!??!" you mean like you are huh.... ok..we all know number can be juggled to say just about whatever you want....this is from a left wing liberal group so of course the numbers are going to be twisted in the liberals favor.. you'll agree with me that during Clinton's term there was no war going on....so where is the 3 trillion dollars from his term? |
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Topic:
Some good news america!
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madman...have you been drinking?...
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Topic:
Regime change
Edited by
northrn_yanke
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Thu 03/06/08 03:38 PM
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another one of madman's golden finds...hot from the presses of the world renowned The Smirking Chimp...
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Do they not use surge shut off valves so if a pipe does break the gas is shut off.... Much of our infrastructure here is pretty antiquated. I remember a gas line explosion up in Washington State in the 90's that laid waste to a pretty large area. Our bridges are failing... Our power grid overwhelmed... Fail safes ignored. New technology passed by. Yesterdays explosion, unfortunately, is par for the course. up here we have a problem with the waterlines..they break in cold weather and the mechanical shut off valves half the time don't work...the infrastructure in a lot of the major cities have passed their life expectancy but the cost to replace is so high the cities can't afford it so they just keep making repairs as needed |
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I don't believe they do Yankee. The only place I have seen that type of valve is the internal valve on Propane Tank Trailers. we used them on fuel lines and oil lines on aircraft....one of the valves even made it onto one of my cars.. 
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I would much rather have someone like McCain with experiences than Obama who has no knowledge of the military and would have to blindly rely on someone else to tell him what to do...
Bush does that now as he has no knowledge since he sisestepped military service. actually Bush completed his military service...the liberals started that rumor about Bush... http://www.factcheck.org/new_evidence_supports_bush_military_service_mostly.html here is a link for you.We are kinda ,sorta both right
I saw that link too...I have to think that Bush probably did finish his military service...it's not like he was looking to be president at some time so the records were not that important to him. I wonder what other records from others who served with him would look like. |
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