13 Cain said to the LORD, "My punishment is more than I can bear. 14 Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me." 15 But the LORD said to him, "Not so [a]; anyone who kills Cain will suffer vengeance seven times over." Then the LORD put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him. 16 So Cain went out from the LORD's presence and lived in the land of Nod, east of Eden. This implies that there were others outside of the Adam and Eve family If Adam and Eve were the first on earth wouldn't the other people be related anyway? Adam and Eve were not the first humans on earth. They were the first genetically engineered "new and improved" humans. The engineers (Or creator God) took the primitive "pre-humans" living on the earth and engineered their DNA and made improvements on them. Why do you suppose they have not found the missing link in the line of privative humans to homo sapiens? I know, it does not say this in the Bible (in so many words) because who back then would understand DNA etc. These advanced scientists were viewed as Gods. JB What do you base that belief on? Genesis is an extremely abridged and customized version of creation. There are earlier sources - the Enuma Elish, for example. |
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2tbsp all natural or organic honey (regular commercial honey will give you a sore throat. i.e "Sue Bee") mixed with 1tbsp of apple cider vinegar, as needed. Cool mist vaporizer always helps (don't use tap water....it has too much chlorine and fluoride in it)...Use distilled or natural spring.
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Old Games
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Everyone's favorite: Keep Away
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because the first ten ammendments are the bill of RIGHTS they are not just amendments Yes...they are "just amendments" Oh..and good job on correcting your own misspells. No, they are not "just amendments". Read the "Preamble to the Bill of Rights". These amendments are set apart and excepted from any further modification or repeal. They comprise specific "declaratory and restrictive clauses", "in Order to prevent Misconstruction or Abuse of its Powers" by the federal government. |
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"The Last Days"
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In ~4.5 billion years, how many times do you think this planet has shaken most of us off like a bad case of fleas?
How many "Bibles" have there been? How many Apocalypses? Saviors? 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Recorded Human History: (scale 1:10,000yrs) >- We do nothing but travel from one "End of Days" to the next, over, and over, and over again. |
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Ok, Ok, I admit it...My photo is not me...It's actually of the well-known Hungarian chef who is now also a professional world champion gerbil breeder. I sincerely apologise for using his celebrity status for my own selfish devices.
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Attraction Experiments
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If you think about things, you notice them. There is nothing magical about them. When I was pregnant, I saw pregnant people everywhere. When I am hungry, I see food everywhere. Is that magic? There is no such thing as magic. I have never claimed that any of this is magic. It all pure science. Science that cannot be proven, but science just the same. JB "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." A.C. Clarke Love your work JB! |
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Funs with Guns
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The opinions of one man.. or 10 men.. do not make a law in this country. The opinions of men written in journals or books are not law. Not our Constitution. Agreed.. These men were brilliant beyond their time. Some of them might have believed in a free and armed state... They may not have as well... Either way? What is written in the Constitution and Bill of Rights is law. It was agreed upon by many with differing approaches to the same goal. It was not a document that was written and signed. It was deliberated and discussed at length.. Until such time that a compromise was met and then ratified by representatives of the people. Then it had to go before the Senate.. and completely rehashed again... In that.. What George Washington wrote in his Journal? Or Thomas Jefferson, Alexander Hamilton wrote in theirs? Only gives us their opinion.. Not the bodies opinion. Not the will of the people or the States the representatives resided in. Although the journals are of great historic value and offer insight on what individuals were thinking? They are not law. In the grand scheme of things? They matter just a bit more then my opinion or yours. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ By the way... Lordling.. I did find a legal referance to the case. I downloaded it and it will take some time to study. Thanks. All that you say is true, but since our system of laws is interpretive by nature, and so many years have passed, encompassing dramatic cultural changes (including the obvious etymological evolution of our language), these documents are indispensable in recapturing the original intent of the drafters of the Constitution. You cannot interpret correctly that which you no longer have the basis for understanding. Not only was the 2nd Amendment one of the most debated, but likely also the most passionately argued. Many of the new government's equally new appointees were vehemently against the right to bear arms, for the reasons (among others) that you have stated. This makes it even more apparent how great the debt is that we owe to those who championed this specific right, literally fighting for it "tooth & nail". As I have said before, in other threads related to this topic, the government exercises power at our pleasure. "We the people" instituted the government, and we can dissolve it. I am not advocating anarchy, but rather the observation that the only thing that makes any law valid is the people's willingness to conform to it. If a law is somehow passed that is disdained by the overwhelming majority of the People, then it is not a lawful edict, despite it's support by your "duly elected representative(s)". A government which no longer serves the will of the People is a government which has outlived it's usefulness. Natural Law trumps any law imposed by any government. "The opinions of one man.. or 10 men do not make law in this country."? I suppose that's true, unless you happen to be GW Bush, or the US Supreme Court (9 justices). |
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The "regulated" argument has been beaten to death long ago. The meaning (which is longer used) was well-equipped, and trained in military discipline, as in calling troops "regulars", as opposed to "conscripts" or "volunteers".
The basis behind the 2nd Amendment is that all men, 16-60, were automatically members of the "militia", and therefore were held personally responsible for their own military discipline, training and readiness for war. This is why the 2nd Amendment says it in such an ipso facto manner, "A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.". Also note that "State" is considered to refer to "a condition of existence", as in "State of The Union", or at the most liberal interpretation "The Whole Country". The confusing misinterpretation caused by Yasky's "Comma Controversy" is also easily defeated by reviewing the actual copies of the 2nd Amendment which were ratified and then certified by the individual states. The parchment copy on display in the Library of Congress (which has the extra comma added between "Militia" and "being") was never signed by anyone, and is not a certified document. Without this extra comma, the intent of the declaration is made even more clear. Finally.. a direct answer that makes some sense. Thank-you. I already know the meaning of 'state'. I still have my doubts though.. considering that the Constitution and Bill of Rights was written by the elite class of the time... was all inclusive. I highly doubt that the land owners of the time would have enjoyed the possibility of the working class and poor becoming organized and armed. Even if you look at some of the laws passed just 20 to 50 years after the Bill of Rights was ratified...Concerning concealed weapons and wearing sidearms in public... Many of those, stood unchallanged. By the way lording.. I come up with nothing, searching any and all variables of 'Comma Controversy' and 'Yasky's' Is it possible to point me to some evidence of this? My apologies - I left an "s" out of his name. It's a reference to a brief filed with the US Court of Appeals, Fifth Circuit, by David Yassky (as amicus curiae) of Brooklyn Law School, in the case of US v. Emerson. |
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hi M'Lord!!!! Well met, m'Lady! |
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Now seriously, does anyone really, truely, honestly, believe that our constitution was intended to just arm a government regulated militia? Listen to those whose signatures are on the constitution. Then by whom? The amendment does use the word regulated, does it not? Who is to govern other then the Government. Who is to be in charge of the agenda of said militias? We've had a bit of experience around here in the Northwest on this. For instance.. Take a look at this site. http://www.aryan-nations.org/about.htm The Constitution of Oregon State manages to say it in such a way that is substantially different then the Federal Constitution. It says: Section 27. Right to bear arms; military subordinate to civil power. The people shall have the right to bear arms for the defence [sic] of themselves, and the State, but the Military shall be kept in strict subordination to the civil power[.] How come they failed to word the Federal Constitution like that? The "regulated" argument has been beaten to death long ago. The meaning (which is longer used) was well-equipped, and trained in military discipline, as in calling troops "regulars", as opposed to "conscripts" or "volunteers". The basis behind the 2nd Amendment is that all men, 16-60, were automatically members of the "militia", and therefore were held personally responsible for their own military discipline, training and readiness for war. This is why the 2nd Amendment says it in such an ipso facto manner, "A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.". Also note that "State" is considered to refer to "a condition of existence", as in "State of The Union", or at the most liberal interpretation "The Whole Country". The confusing misinterpretation caused by Yasky's "Comma Controversy" is also easily defeated by reviewing the actual copies of the 2nd Amendment which were ratified and then certified by the individual states. The parchment copy on display in the Library of Congress (which has the extra comma added between "Militia" and "being") was never signed by anyone, and is not a certified document. Without this extra comma, the intent of the declaration is made even more clear. |
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Oh, there's no mystery involved; a government will always strive to interpret a freedom of the people in the most restrictive terms possible - the more archaic the language used, the easier it is for them to redefine what was "originally intended". It is merely the instinct of self-preservation in action.
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if it has internet access she should be able to get on site and do it herself Not if the screen is as crappy as mine is. |
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Kind of hard to argue with constitutional facts, our forefathers and the harsh reality of life....we have a right to bear arms.... Lets define the word right..... inconformity with the rules which ought to regulate human action, in conformity with duty, truth an justice or will of God. The opposite of wrong, a just claim, legal or other claim; a perrogative, privelege belonging to one as a member of a state, society or community, authority and legal power To be in the right, not to be in the wrong, the absolute right as opposed to be in the wrong. All of which come from the Webster's Dictionary published in 1942. And current publications have not changed these definitions of the word right. The word has not lost its meaning from the days when the constitution was written but everyone thinks they can change the meaning that our forefathers intended the word to mean.... Just like many try to change Gods words written by the Disciples...to support their own beliefs, desires and ways they choose to live their life....... I believe that, in this case, that definition is incorrectly applied. A "right" in matters of jurisprudence and law, is: The legal or moral entitlement to do or refrain from doing something or to obtain or refrain from obtaining an action, thing or recognition in civil society. (Contrast with "privilege", denoting some peculiar benefit or advantage, some right or immunity, not enjoyed by the world at large.) Privileges are granted by governing authorities. Rights are inherent, by the Grace of God (Natural Law). |
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I especially like this one: Congress has no power to disarm the militia. Their swords and every terrible implement of the soldier are the birthright of Americans. The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments but where, I trust in God, it will always remain, in the hands of the people. Tench Coxe |
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I need help bad to get my picture from my phone to my profile without a computer? Can it be done? If your phone has internet access, you should be able to email them to the site admins. |
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that could be the problem. I once tried to copy a dvd movie that had something like that on there. The rule of thumb: If it has Starforce, don't buy it or use it. Period. Here is a website that will walk you through removing it. http://www.glop.org/starforce/remove.php If the driver has been installed, it's there and running forever, until it's uninstalled. Even when it's not needed...even when there is no disc in the tray, it's running. Would it prevent my disk drives from opening when I push the open button? I suppose it could, in theory, but I've seen no reports of this type of behavior....Other possible culprits are hardware (Pioneers tend to be buggy in this manner), and Windows security policies, which can be configured in such a way so that if you insert removable media it is cached in your profile. If you log off, and another user with equal/weaker permissions logs on, they will be unable to access that media (including ejection). It can also be configured so that media cannot be ejected if the desktop is locked under any profile. As StarForce modifies the ACL for the drive, it could be a security interaction problem. |
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Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
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Funs with Guns
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Lordling
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When I was 7 years old, my father took me out into the yard, handed me a double-barreled 10ga shotgun, went through basic operation & safety, then told me to shoot a cottonwood tree. I complied, and about 5 minutes later, I woke up with a healthy respect for firearms. Not fear...respect. This is what is lacking in civil society today. Who shall we blame? The government? Well, yes, and no. We (as a society) were so worried about quelling barbarous and violent behavior, that we allowed...nay, demanded, that the government control firearms. This courtship & desire for nanny government has come back to bite us in the a$$.
Another reflection that I've always found grimly amusing is that it is primarily the "Liberals" who advocate gun control. They, who supposedly embrace the philosophy that individual freedom is of paramount importance. This is an undeniable proof that "Liberals" are nothing of the sort; they are Socialists (Loyalists) who advocate boundless free choice with no intrinsic moral or true civic responsibility. A modern "Liberal" platform advocates that we utilize the government and it's resources to shore up the decaying foundation of human society. What they don't seem to realize is, that is precisely what has brought us to the point where we now find ourselves. Incidentally, "Liberals" are nothing new. During the birth of the 1st American Revolution, there were many who balked at insurrection - who had vested interests in the British government retaining control of the colonies - who shunned violence of any kind, as un-Christian and barbaric - who "just didn't want to get involved" - who feared reprisals by the Crown. It wasn't much better during the 2nd American Revolution, but we won on a technicality. What I'm afraid of is, not that we might lose the 3rd one, but that we won't have the collective guts (nor the means) to fight it at all. |
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