>> hate-mongering divisional
>> just plain racist

Come on, have seen others calling people stupid, etc, that IS NOT what I mean, it is the really hurtful I am talking of. If you (IMO) call someone a racist, etc, is is just as low down as
using the n word.

I know I haven't been on here long, and I enjoy the 'debate' but only by being respectful. I wouldn't lower myself to calling someone a name.
You all are here on this site to find dates??
How do you think it looks to a prospective one whey they see you being so mean?? (not speaking to anyone in particular, but the negative, insulting people, when politics isn't about hate or names, it is about a difference of opinion. Period.)Peace, BB


http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20081016/pl_bloomberg/awdhvdjndnts_1

to clear up Joe the plumber's stand/ and what O's
tax plan will do to the average self employed....copy---]

In Wurzelbacher's case, the lien indicated that the notice was sent to a previous address in Toledo.

Under Obama's proposal, Wurzelbacher would face about $900 more in taxes if he netted $280,000 of income from his new business, said Gerald Prante, a senior economist at the Tax Foundation, a Washington research group that is examining both candidates' plans. ``His average tax burden, the final bill he pays to the IRS isn't going to go up much if he's just making $280,000 a year,'' Prante said. He would face higher marginal tax costs to expand the business beyond that, he said.
---- end copy--- yeah, he owes past taxes - guess that's why he's so concerned..... and guess what?
When the costs of the business' goes up, so does the cost of the service or product. Not a free ride, just passed onto you and perhaps drive some business out of biz as well. NOT a good idea.
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They raised money for charity,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AljrFHhSF28

They can laugh it up and get along, why the heck
can't we?
The only ones calling anyone hateful names is those trying to defend Obama... gezzse, get a life. No need for taking things down to
personnal, we don't.

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Peace, BB

Yea, ur right about the D (not **** :(. Typing from my laptop balanced is bit ruff, take shortcuts that's all.

BTW, did anyone see this video about the 'shares of pie?"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9d4teSWV

--copy-The Obamas are complaining to America because they cannot pay for their children's piano lessons on their half a million dollar income.

Michelle Obama is a socialist and painfully arrogant

FACT:Obama donated less than 1% to charity while the Clintons donated 10%.
---end--

Hey, I heard a good joke tonight,--copy--
"There was a scare in Washington when a man climbed over the White House wall and was arrested. This marks the first time person has gotten into the White House unlawfully since President Bush." -David Letterman
smile, BB

Thanks for posting the whole thing, my post was getting kind of long so I snipped it.
Hillary, Bush, McCain, almost all voted for this, Obama did not. I can't get behind him at all when he supports partial birth abortions, and late term
abortions even. AND when he was a senator, his wife wrote a letter to raise money at a $150.00 a dinner plate, to raise money to STOP - fight bills that would do away with late term abortions. One of the most horrific ways to kill a baby. Google it..... McCain suggested that Obama had stepped to the political fringe by failing to take a position on a late-term abortion ban when he served in the Illinois Senate and for opposing a measure that would provide medical attention to a child born of a failed abortion.--end--two different kinds if inhumane ways to snuff a life - that has grown FOR MANY MONTHS or full term!!. If he had just said it's a woman's right to choice - weeks, not months - then there would not be sure an uproar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRswgN-Wf6g

"Barack Obama dodged the question on where life begins at the Faith Forum with Rick Warren. - O answers "question of when life begins, is above my pay grade" --FLIP!! BB

opps, double post. deleted

I never voted for Bush (I'm an Independent) and HATE what he has gotten away with. Yes, ur right, they never should've gotten away with being able to get that bailout passed so quick, with so much.

BTW I was going to vote for Hillary, but when they got this other D in, I studied things a whole lot more, and changed to McCain! Cheers, BB

hi tng, as I mentioned,

I went to your ref's site at http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citizenship.html--- copy----
August 29, 2008
Q: Does Barack Obama have Kenyan citizenship?
The Rocky Mountain News has reported (below) that Barack Obama "Holds both American and Kenyan (since 1963) citizenship." Is this true?--

AND it IS outdated. ALOT has happened since Aug. 29th.
The October Surprise

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs

more info--copy--
NOTE: We only had 36 hours to produce this video, so it doesn't have the usual Illuminati polish. However, it reveals the single greatest threat to Obama's campaign.

In "October Surprise", Molotov Mitchell interviews the plaintiff in a stunning federal case against Barack Obama. The case is nothing short of electrifying, but the mainstream media is doing its best to keep Americans in the dark. Let's get the word out! Pass this video on to everyone you know.

If Obama's innocent, then why isn't he cooperating with the court?--end--
Peace, BB

http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/president/31082739.html?page=2&c=y

---copy--THE FACTS: The tax credit offered by McCain is more generous for the vast majority of people than the current tax break, which they would lose, according to the Tax Policy Center. Now, people don't pay taxes on the health benefits they get from work. Obama's statement gives the impression that $5,000 is all that workers will be getting to help them pay for a health plan, but that's just what the federal government will provide. Economists say most employers would still contribute to their workers' health insurance. The Lewin Group, a health care consulting firm, found that by taxing health benefits but providing a tax credit, the average family would come out $1,411 ahead.

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McCAIN: "Sen. Obama is spending unprecedented amounts of money in negative attack ads on me."

THE FACTS: Obama is spending unprecedented amounts of money on ads, period — negative or otherwise. Obama is outspending McCain and the Republican Party by more than 2-to-1 in presidential ads. At one point in August, 90 percent of the ads Obama was airing were against McCain. The study by the Wisconsin Advertising Project found that about 34 percent of Obama's ads are now negative.

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OBAMA: "If it sounds incredible that I would vote to withhold lifesaving treatment from an infant, that's because it's not true."

THE FACTS: As a state senator, Obama opposed three legislative efforts, in 2001, 2002 and 2003, to give legal protections to any aborted fetus that showed signs of life. The 2003 measure was virtually identical to a bill President Bush signed into law in 2002 — a bill that passed before Obama was in the U.S. Senate, but one that Obama said he would have supported. The state of Illinois already had a law to protect aborted fetuses born alive and considered able to survive
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OBAMA: "We can cut the average family's premium by $2,500 a year."

THE FACTS: If that sounds like a straight-ahead promise to lower health insurance premiums, it isn't. Obama hopes that by spending $50 billion over five years on electronic medical records and by improving access to pr oven disease management programs, among other steps, consumers will end up saving money. He uses an optimistic analysis to suggest cost reductions in national health care spending could amount to the equivalent of $2,500 for a family of four. Many economists are skeptical those savings can be achieved, but even if they are, it's not a certainty that every dollar would be passed on to consumers in the form of lower premiums.--end copy--

There is a whole lot more, pls check it out..
Glad U asked!! (One last thing, then I will get off my soapbox (grin) I sure do hope THEY do an investigation on O's INTERNET contributions, 2 million suspiciously. Whew, BB

Your site's outdated,,,--copy--Update, August 26: We received responses to some of our questions from the Hawaii Department of Health.-- end--last update and ALOT has happened since then!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0Ti-gkJiXc&feature=user

Regards, BB

No- with a pair of quality head phones(bose) it's semi clear that a guy in the audience yells terrorist 13 seconds in and the media has been passing it off as kill him. It's not even close to kill him. Now I'm not defending the terrorist comment, the guy is nut but it is clearly not kill him. ---- there are now fake videos dubbed over on ytube, saying kill him. But, there was one reporter that I read, who had said if there were any kill words, it was when McCain was speaking of Ayers (then shout, so it was about doing him.)
You took it to Muslim, it was terrorist shouted.

But, pls look at this video, and see where it goes when peacefully marched in Ny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQalRPQ8stI

(If you can't get Utube, it is--copy--
ThePeoplesCube.com presents: A Pro-McCain march on the Upper West Side in Manhattan on Sunday, September 21, 2008. A group of McCain-Palin supporters dare to march through the Upper West Side - infidels in the liberal Mecca. Local "progressives" boo, jeer, and flip fingers at them with a rage they never display even to this country's enemies. We would like them to take a look at themselves in this video and maybe learn a few things about the human condition that the academia has obviously left out.
(If U can see it tho, pls do, enlightling), BB

Hi ya templter :) Nice to 'meet' U.

BTW National Geographic just did a report, (Off topic, sorry) out of cigarettes, alcohol and ecstasy, it is cigarettes that kills the most!!
---- back on topic---
O's birth certificate problem is NOT over/clear

http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/stop-obama-constitutional-crisis/

You can sign the Petition here --copy--

A lawsuit has been filed with the Pennsylvania Eastern District Court requiring Mr. Obama to produce documents to prove he is constitutionally qualified to run for President. So far Mr. Obama has refused to produce the documents and is trying to fight the court order to produce the documents. Any American should be able to prove citizenship in less than a day. Why can't Mr. Obama?

Here is a link to the actual court documents - http://news.justia.com/cases/featured/Pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/
A constitutional crisis will rip our country apart. If this is not cleared up now we will have a crisis. If you care at all about America you must call for Mr. Obama to produce the documents and prove that he is eligible to be President.

Please call on Mr. Obama to produce the documents to prove his constitutional qualifications.

Thank you, --end-- (me too BB)

U missed the point. The Harlem group didn't have the right facts, and then only voted O because of his race.

Yes, I would vote for a black person, no problem. But I am an informed person, and that is why I am not voting for O.

Race does play a part however, to many. And the 'race card' is used on Obama's side (link 1 example)- have not heard it al all on McCains. -----copy--- Murtha's apology came after the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette posted a story on its Web site Wednesday that quotes the veteran Democratic congressman as saying, "no question that western Pennsylvania is a racist area," and predicting that those attitudes could cost the Illinois senator on Election Day.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/16/murtha.racism.apology/index.html

AND, do we have proof of a slanted news reporting from the biggest ones?? Yep,

--copy-- the 30 or so reporters and crew were walking back to their buses to join the McCain motorcade when hundreds of townspeople started yelling.

"Stop lying! You are all liars! Tell the truth!" one woman yelled from the front of the pack.

The crowd was not menacing or threatening, but was clearly angry.

"You're telling lies! Stop the lies!" one man yelled. Asked why the crowd was so angry, Linda J. Green of Mequon, Wisc., said: "I'm thinking the press is very biased."

"I think the press is very liberal and very slanted against the McCain-Palin ticket. Would you ask a man if his kids were being taken care of while he's out campaigning?"

http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/trail-times/2008/Sep/05/small-town-residents-boo-media-mccain/

Peace, BB

“In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ”

~ George Orwell
I saw aw the interview on CNN. His half brother is living in what amounts to a glorified refrigerator box... on about a dollar a day. O could have easy sent him money, years ago, nope. And when interviewed, his half-brother said O was a muslim. Not that fact,(in it's self, IF he was born in the US) but the fact O has to lie to cover it up is WRONG (so in this case, is BAD).

---quote--
“No self-respecting woman should
wish or work for the success of a
party that ignores her"
— Susan B. Anthony-- So yeah, we got lots of women too along with the average man (Joe Six pack) and small biz owners (Joe the Plumber).

That's right. The reporter gave McCain's details, and asked the people if hey were going to vote for Obama, based on that.

They said yes! Not on the details, even going as far as to say, "you like Obama's running mate, do You think Sarah Palin will make a good V.P. That's why you're going to vote for Obama?
Yes, they said! Please listen to the tape.
It's not voting for him because they like his Uganda, or such, because all given out was McCains!

Sad..... BB

>>A tape API an Afrian paper claims to have.. No voice just read??? Picked up by a right wing radio show..Hmmm Lets here and see the proof, if not just more bs..Im sure your fox station would be all over it by now..HMMM Tell you what, come on down on the 4th and I will buy you a beer..Aways a gracious winner!!! ---end copy---

Let's see if we can all get along. I haven't called anyone any hateful names, and want to cover something - think I can disagree without
getting called some names?? Hummm, let's see....

90% of the mainstream media are pushing for an Obama presidency. IT'S painfully OBVIOUS! Are you for real?

If O isn't Muslim, he has the name, wore the clothes, has 80% relitives who are, and he went to Kenya to 'rally' for his cousin, Raila Odinga…. Odinga is from the socialist Orange Democratic Movement. He was educated in communist East Germany. Odinga, who calls Obama a cousin from his same tribe, has Christians slaughtered who oppose the Orange Revolutionary Party. Obama campaigned for this tyrant Prime Minister of Kenya in Kenya as recently as December 2007. This despite Odinga’s signing an agreement in August 2007 with the National Muslim Leaders Forum to institute Islamic Law. Obama violated the Logan Act in campaigning for this renown foreign terrorist and should be punished. (Lots of people think he is, just hasn't been honest, it will come to be found, one way or the other.)
------ he isn't for firearms, and the
NRA back him (see this video - smile)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZQIXUZV2s
--- and this man has no reason to lie....copy

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Sammy Korir made history by running the 2nd fastest marathon in 2hrs and 4:056 min. in Berlin.
He now lives in Norway in asylum, because of the brutal regime in Kenya that Barack Obama helped to install by assisting his cousin Reile Odingo in raising a million dollars and also campaigning with him and assisting Odingo in his campaign marketing strategy.
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So, can we still be friends?? BB

Didn't say anything wrong w/Harlem..===copy==

Although I imagine most conservatives aren't fans of radio shock jock Howard Stern, the following must-see video (must-hear audio, really!) exposes the dirty little secret about why so many folks are supporting Barack Obama (hint -- it has NOTHING to do with his policy positions, h/t Larwyn) ----- They went into the crowd, asked why people were voting for O, giving options of
'agenda' and runing mate, but gave all of McCains agenda and S.P instead, and no one even noticed, they just said, yeah, that's why I am voting for Obama!!
THIS IS HILLARIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOO
It is unbelievable and so sad! BB

recorded.
Who Won Last Presidential Debate?
Obama

12% (712 votes)
McCain

88% (5016 votes)
Total votes: 5728

http://newsbusters.org/polls/who-won-last-presidential-debate-25277

Guess it depends on where you're looking.

And guess what? S. P is going to be on Sat. Nite Live 0 really she is, will show them boys and girls a thing or two !! smile, BB

Ps. Hummm, let's see, we got Joe/six pack and now
Joe the plumber (Laughing!)

Yep, u're right.

And others fail to 'get it' the b/cert on the website was proved FALSE! Google it for crying out loud!

And sit back and listen to the shocking news

http://frontpage.americandaughter.com/index.php

click onto M. O video, the phone call is read to you, and hear about "whitey" and MORE!

And this is not funny stuff, no one is laughing, watch the other video
Watch this video of the conflict in Kenya months back. Odinga and Obama are Luo. Odinga and his American counterpart and strategist Obama both campaigned on this canard of “change”. Obama campaigned for Odinga. Adam pointed out that Obama been in Nairobi politicking more recently than he’s been to Iraq. Why now does Obama pretend he doesn’t know him?

Listen as the Luo calls itself the “Taliban” in the video. It’s graphic, it’s gruesome but it is who Obama supported. Watch the whole thing, particularly the Luos burning church, raping women, and hacking a man to death….



Obama’s bias for his fellow Luo was so blatant that a Kenya government spokesman denounced Obama during his visit as Raila’s “stooge.”
------wake up, period. BB

(look at the whole site, sick, and O is exposed again here, and here, and here..........)

Obama's mentors/advisors/idols/politic al backers

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78041

a free press for the free people

Sweetie, U could be the one to post junk on the comments, anyone can!!

BUT, check it out (smile)

http://www.gallup.com/poll/111211/Gallup-Daily-Obama-49-McCain-43.aspx?version=print

O is dropping in points (grin). BB

---copy--- This article confirms what I, Philip J. Berg, Esquire, have been arguing for months for all of the citizens of the United States that Obama is “not” qualified to be President of the United States, as required by our U.S. Constitution!

Our U.S. Constitution states that the “qualifications” for President are: 1) be thirty-five [35] years of age; 2) live in the United States for fourteen [14] years; and 3) be a “natural born” citizen. Obama fulfills the 1st two “qualifications,” but fails in the 3rd.

If Obama’s wife, Michelle’s version is correct, she confirms what I alleged, that Obama was either “adopted” or “acknowledged” by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro. Mrs. Obama states Obama was “adopted.”

The adoption means that when Obama returned to the United States, if he came through U.S. Immigration, Obama would only be “naturalized” and therefore ineligible to be President. If Obama did not go through U.S. Immigration, he would be an illegal alien and therefore not only be ineligible to be President, but also ineligible to be U.S. Senator from Illinois and subject to deportation.

Thank you - Michelle Obama !

You're kidding about the spot, hummmm

How about

http://www.americasright.com/

"The truth is, we're 20 days away from Election Day and even such a fundamental fact about where Barack Obama was born remains in doubt, and his campaign has done nothing about it," Corsi said. "This problem should not require a Harvard Law degree to solve. This matter should not require an FBI investigation to sort out. We've got a man running for president who is conducting one of the most monumental cover-ups about, of all things, his own identity."
(to name a few :( )
Read it all in one place... BB