Are you not voting then? Or who would you suggest we look at?
Thanks, BB

Last time I was there..10 hrs, so complaining about people in Canada spend 4 hrs with their universal care is nothing. And Obamas plan is not the universal care they have in Canada..Its putting people on plans already in place..BIG DIFF..I know you know this already Winx..


T- U missed part of the news??? --copy posted prior --the Commonwealth Fund found that 57% of Canadians reported waiting 4 weeks or more to see a specialist; and a WHOPPING 22 months for an MRI---- --copy

with Obama’s health-care plan, or social health-care as I may call it, everything will go in the wrong direction. I don’t want the government-which can not control job promotion/creation and rising oil prices-to run and mandate how to provide me with health-care…
Look at France for example… they have social health-care that covers everyone, what’s wrong with that you ask?? well only that it would take up to 6 months to schedule your vital surgery meanwhile it wouldn’t take more than 3 weeks in U.S. With social health-care the quality is bound to significantly go down.
To all you democrats out there….. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS FREE LUNCH!
Personally I dont think I should pay more money for Joe who lives down the street, who is obese, a smoker, and is a total wreck (his choice). I agree with McCain that Americans should have the ultimate decision on which health-care plan they should have. Another thing… universal health care would put sooo many people out of jobs.. insurance companies would crash because their purpose would completely be demolished.. think of all the people who would loose their jobs.

Democrats tend to think and act from flee of passion… I am totally with you dems on every American having no trouble obtaining something that they could afford and should be eligible to.. health care.. but you have to think of the consequences that will follow.. more debt maybe?? 9 trillion already, now lets go a little further!! Give me a break.. in the long run McCain’s plan will work a lot better and i by far more realistic than Obama’s

http://health-insurance-carriers.com/blog/health-care-john-mccain-vs-barack-obama/

---so France is bad too. U want to wait how many MONTHS for (perhaps life-threatning) an appointment?? BB

PS, drawbacks, all of them///sick around the world--copy

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundtheworld/countries/

If U visited the site, U'd see first, they hired an atty, then they write open letter to Mrs. O. so she could state truth, so not all (ill-relevant)of it released. Then they waited (one week gone by from start, not all that long)few days, then they say, fox news was chosen to air this. Will be anxious to see this come to pass (rather than not) as too much cover-up about his 'right' to run as Pres. has happened. BB

BTW, do U work for O's camp? Straight forward details on health care show huge diff between debit - and coverage. O's is not the best by a long shot.

Nope, none of them mine, have nothing to do w/them.



But, pls keep ONE more open to visit, about O's birth/adoption --copy--

Michelle Obama tapes’ imminent release approaching: API in a serious negotiation with FOX NEWS on the best way forward

http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/shocking-development-mrs-obama-decides-enough-is-enough-my-husband-was-born-in-hawaii-and-adopted-by-his-step-father-does-that-make-him-unpatriotic-she-asks-on-a-direct-telephone-to-api/


Obama tapes: I am 100% positive this is real and it will be released to Fox news network and become public in short order.
Posted by africanpress on October 22, 2008

http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/22/obama-tapes-i-am-100-positive-this-is-real-and-it-will-be-released-to-fox-news-network-and-become-public-in-short-order/

I spoke with Mr. Korir as well. I convinced him to let me hear a snippet of the recording and from the little bit I did, I would say with 100% certainty that it is Michelle Obama’s voice. Please be patient. Mr Korir would not lie. He has been a colleague of mine for fifteen years. I would trust him with my life.

---humm, tomorrow or Thurs should tell much, BB

I understand O's healthcare plan IS going to cost us MORE than McCains!

http://www.cnbc.com/id/27298310
The Big Tax Picture: Over $1 Trillion


AP
Barack Obama
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Tax Policy Center has calculated that the refundable tax credit and John McCain's overall health plan will increase the deficit by $1.3 trillion over the next ten years, while Barack Obama's plan providing subsidized access through an insurance exchange will boost the deficit by roughly $1.6 trillion in the next decade.

McCain’s plan, analysts say would cost less over time, because the tax credit would likely be indexed to inflation, while medical costs are likely to grow more quickly. --snip--
McCain's plan puts the combined savings at about $85 Billion, while Obama puts the savings at just over $90 billion, according to calculations from the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget.

But even with those calculations, the Committee puts the budget impact of McCain's policies starting off at a $17 billion deficit in the first year, while the Obama plan would start off $65 billion in the red.


---end c--

So, q answered, BB

edited, sorry T, we must've been posting at the same time.

sorry, meant undoubtably - must've changed it w/spell-ck(smile, show some of that love)BB

health care--- see
http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/19ba2f1c-c03f-4ac2-8cd5-5cf2edb527cf.htm

get the true facts, not lies (yes, half trueths are LIES!)---copy--Barack Obama And Joe Biden Have Consistently Lied To Americans About John McCain's Plan. Their claims have failed every fact-check - from CBS to the Washington Post. John McCain is not going to raise taxes on middle class families. Barack Obama and Joe Biden are the only ones in this race that plan to raise taxes. --snip--OBAMA FICTION
John McCain Will Tax Health Care Benefits For The First Time And Will Be the Largest Middle Class Tax Increase In History.

THE FACTS
This Obama charge is a blatant mischaracterization of the McCain Health Plan. It only focuses on the fact that the value of the employer provided insurance will now show up as additional income for the employees – what he fails to mention – is that John McCain’s generous refundable tax credit ($5,000 for families and $2,500 for individuals) will not only shield millions of families from a tax increase but will actually give them MORE dollars to invest in their health care needs.

The McCain Plan DOES NOT tax:

Premiums paid by families and individuals


Employers for providing health care coverage


Medical expenses like the cost of a procedure or medication


Insurance claims

Approach Supported By Obama’s Own Advisor: This is an approach supported by Barack Obama's own Senior Economic Advisor Jason Furman who wrote that "we could scrap the current deduction altogether and replace it with progressive tax credits that, together with other changes, would ensure that every American has affordable health insurance."

Better Than "Members of Congress": Under the McCain Plan, your employer can provide you with health insurance as good as a "Member of Congress" (approximately $12,000), and you would pay no more in taxes – regardless of your tax bracket. In fact, you would have additional money left over from the McCain tax credit to put in a health savings account.

---end c---get the full facts, visit website above.


Back on topic, it was mentioed M may not qualify to run as Pres as well.....see....


http://www.snopes.com/politics/mccain/citizen.asp

and snopes has updated their website about O's
b/certificte http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp


and McCains med records, summery

http://www.johnmccain.com/mccainrecords/

-----------update-------------breaking news------

http://obamacrimes.com/

lawsuit against Obama & DNC ---end c--

and another website w/details

http://www.americasright.com

pls visit site for full back-up and details, downloads. Thanks, BB

Thanks C, my thoughts exactly, and a short version of what I would say to this person, to show them the importance of voting for McCain.


--copy--

McCain is clearly a Republican, with some conservative positions. He has promised to appoint judges who will interpret the law, not make it. He has promised to make the Bush tax cuts permanent. And he has promised to fight government spending, to veto any bill with earmarks, and to roll back entitlement programs—positions that, these days, it is an act of nostalgia to describe as “Republican.”

--snip-- What is a conservative? Essentially, someone who is temperamentally suspicious of government. That’s why conservatives argue for limited government, economic freedom, low taxes, and fewer regulations. The bumper-sticker version might be: “If in doubt, keep government out.”
--snip-- Meanwhile, Senator Barack Obama has been named the most liberal member of the U.S. Senate by National Journal. and That demonstrates a healthy skepticism of both government’s competence (think Katrina clean-up) and its fuzzy benevolence, which generally involves toying with any activity that begins with the letters A through Z, scolding people for their behavior (and, er, persuading them to change it), or redistributing their wealth.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NTNhYTQ4YTcyYjg3NDcxYThmZmJkODc5OWVmM2I4ZGU=

--end copy-- And if you vote for O, he and his agenda are VERY liberal- BB

I want McCain too, here's part of the reason why
(copying post from another thread)


I agree about debit, but let's look at O's plan, FAR MORE debt and for far longer.....(do we need/want to pay for child day care??)

http://www.realdemocracy.com/no2party.htm

--copy--For instance, consider two sweeping new entitlements that Obama plans to offer for all Americans – universal (but, he insists, “voluntary”) federally-funded pre-school for all children starting at age three, and a low-cost, heavily subsidized federal health insurance plan for every low or middle income American who wants it.

A President Obama would no doubt promote such proposals in his first year in office and a compliant, heavily-Democratic Congress would approve them promptly—perhaps making the benefits even more generous. This means that before the next election, tens of millions (probably hundreds of millions) of American families will take advantage of “free” pre-kindergarten education (and day care), as well as cheap, subsidized (to the tune of at least $160 billion per year) health insurance. The chances of ever taking away such goodies are nil --- Presidents may come and go, but entitlements are forever. New government give-aways may accomplish nothing constructive but they’re all but impossible to eliminate once they’re up and running.
--snip--Obama’s new entitlements will similarly survive all attempts to eliminate them. If he becomes President we’ll be permanently stuck not just with federal pre-school and a subsidized health insurance guarantee (Obama described it as a “right” in the last debate), but with a $4,000 annual check (a so-called “refundable tax credit”) to all “non-wealthy” college students, a doubling of the Peace Corps, vast increases in AmeriCorps, new billions for “National Service,” a tripling of the foreign aid budget (a specific Obama promise) and much, much more. For those who believe it’s easy to reduce or erase such spending in future administrations, consider the example of Bill Clinton’s cherished “service program” AmeriCorps (which pays its “volunteers” close to $30,000 a year). Gingrich, George W. Bush and countless other conservatives recognize that this is a wasteful, crooked, outrageous effort to use taxpayer money to fund leftist activism, but even when the GOP controlled all levers of government they made no progress in slaughtering the monster.
Aside from the ongoing growth of government and the waste of public money, other changes brought about by President Obama will prove to be unalterable and devastating: in his first year, he will authorize gays serving openly in the military, and hasten the national imposition of homosexual marriage (he’s pledged to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act).

He will also get the chance to appoint at least two, and perhaps as many as four new justices to the Supreme Court of the United States. All legal observers expect Obama’s nominees to embrace an even more activist, leftist view of the Constitution and legal system than Clinton’s appointees, Breyer and Ginzburg. The damage from the remaking of the court could prove incalculable. There is also no chancesof impeaching any Supreme Court Justice (short of a credible murder or rape charge) even if Republicans re-take control in some future Congress. The GOP (led by Jerry Ford as House Minority Leader) tried to gain traction for impeachment efforts to counteract the wildly destructive excesses of the Warren Court but got absolutely nowhere and managed, mostly, to embarrass themselves.
(ARE U READING THIS??)

Finally, and perhaps most fatally, a President Obama will radically revamp our already broken immigration system and permanently remake the country, politically and demographically.

Most conservatives passionately opposed the sweeping immigration reform promoted in 2007 by President Bush, Senator McCain (and, it must be noted, a majority of Republican members of the US Senate) because it granted a complicated path to legalization for some of the millions of illegal immigrants who are already here. Those concerned citizens who celebrated “victory” last year with the collapse of the immigration compromise should prepare themselves for a much more liberal, forgiving reform under Obama (and his supportive Congress) that will make legalization far easier, and will include far more of the illegals as future voters and citizens

If the government hands out goodies to various constituencies, those segments of the population will continue to support the idea of enriching themselves with other people’s money.

That’s the biggest threat of an Obama presidency: the creation of vast new groups of dependent Americans who will comprise an unassailable new coalition that will enjoy iron control of our politics for a generation or more. If you start with newly legalized immigrant voters (with as many as 10 million new Democrats totally beholden to Obama and company) and then add the beneficiaries of government pre-school, the new nursery school teachers, the recipients and administrators of federal health insurance, federal college grants, the businesses who’ll enjoy the $150 billion in promised subsidies for “alternative energy,” the companies and employees of the vast increases in “infra-structure” spending (lots more bridges to nowhere), the non-tax payers who will suddenly receive a $1,000 per household check (under the guise of “refundable tax credit,” and many, many more. ---end copy---

OUR money, our children's debit, sure hope people see it for what it is - and isn't!! BB

Oh, what you have to say is more important than what I have to say?? NOT and you can't even do it respectfully!

People like you,,,,,,,,

Just so you know, it is not the best thing at all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Canada

==copy--Wait times
One of the major complaints about the Canadian health care system is waiting times, whether for a specialist, major elective surgery, such as hip replacement, or specialized treatments, such as radiation for breast cancer. Studies by the Commonwealth Fund found that 57% of Canadians reported waiting 4 weeks or more to see a specialist; 24% of Canadians waited 4 hours or more in the emergency room.[20]

A March 2, 2004 article in the Canadian Medical Association Journal stated, "Saskatchewan is under fire for having the longest waiting time in the country for a diagnostic MRI — a whopping 22 months." [3] Medical professional shortage
Canada's shortage of medical practitioners causes problems.

---end copy--

In fact, wait times are terrible, and many opt to pay for their own doctor/hosp. visits so they can get GOOD or fast treatment. So, in essence, double paying - once thru the gov. and once again, out of their own pocket. (Else they would die waiting!)
Pls, let's stay on topic, BB

It shouldn't be this way.

Lies, and outspending for ads to push those lies.

Ly-ing king, spread the lies

http://www.overstream.net/view.php?oid=n1ronxelmtin

they even made a cartoon about it. BB

PS> If you think it is okay to lie just to get
elected, you'll fit right in (and really love the above video/cartoon, not take offense at all). I for one, think we deserve more. BB

I want McCain too, here's part of the reason why
(copying post from another thread)


I agree about debit, but let's look at O's plan, FAR MORE debt and for far longer.....(do we need/want to pay for child day care??)

http://www.realdemocracy.com/no2party.htm

--copy--For instance, consider two sweeping new entitlements that Obama plans to offer for all Americans – universal (but, he insists, “voluntary”) federally-funded pre-school for all children starting at age three, and a low-cost, heavily subsidized federal health insurance plan for every low or middle income American who wants it.

A President Obama would no doubt promote such proposals in his first year in office and a compliant, heavily-Democratic Congress would approve them promptly—perhaps making the benefits even more generous. This means that before the next election, tens of millions (probably hundreds of millions) of American families will take advantage of “free” pre-kindergarten education (and day care), as well as cheap, subsidized (to the tune of at least $160 billion per year) health insurance. The chances of ever taking away such goodies are nil --- Presidents may come and go, but entitlements are forever. New government give-aways may accomplish nothing constructive but they’re all but impossible to eliminate once they’re up and running.
--snip--Obama’s new entitlements will similarly survive all attempts to eliminate them. If he becomes President we’ll be permanently stuck not just with federal pre-school and a subsidized health insurance guarantee (Obama described it as a “right” in the last debate), but with a $4,000 annual check (a so-called “refundable tax credit”) to all “non-wealthy” college students, a doubling of the Peace Corps, vast increases in AmeriCorps, new billions for “National Service,” a tripling of the foreign aid budget (a specific Obama promise) and much, much more. For those who believe it’s easy to reduce or erase such spending in future administrations, consider the example of Bill Clinton’s cherished “service program” AmeriCorps (which pays its “volunteers” close to $30,000 a year). Gingrich, George W. Bush and countless other conservatives recognize that this is a wasteful, crooked, outrageous effort to use taxpayer money to fund leftist activism, but even when the GOP controlled all levers of government they made no progress in slaughtering the monster.
Aside from the ongoing growth of government and the waste of public money, other changes brought about by President Obama will prove to be unalterable and devastating: in his first year, he will authorize gays serving openly in the military, and hasten the national imposition of homosexual marriage (he’s pledged to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act).

He will also get the chance to appoint at least two, and perhaps as many as four new justices to the Supreme Court of the United States. All legal observers expect Obama’s nominees to embrace an even more activist, leftist view of the Constitution and legal system than Clinton’s appointees, Breyer and Ginzburg. The damage from the remaking of the court could prove incalculable. There is also no chancesof impeaching any Supreme Court Justice (short of a credible murder or rape charge) even if Republicans re-take control in some future Congress. The GOP (led by Jerry Ford as House Minority Leader) tried to gain traction for impeachment efforts to counteract the wildly destructive excesses of the Warren Court but got absolutely nowhere and managed, mostly, to embarrass themselves.
(ARE U READING THIS??)

Finally, and perhaps most fatally, a President Obama will radically revamp our already broken immigration system and permanently remake the country, politically and demographically.

Most conservatives passionately opposed the sweeping immigration reform promoted in 2007 by President Bush, Senator McCain (and, it must be noted, a majority of Republican members of the US Senate) because it granted a complicated path to legalization for some of the millions of illegal immigrants who are already here. Those concerned citizens who celebrated “victory” last year with the collapse of the immigration compromise should prepare themselves for a much more liberal, forgiving reform under Obama (and his supportive Congress) that will make legalization far easier, and will include far more of the illegals as future voters and citizens

If the government hands out goodies to various constituencies, those segments of the population will continue to support the idea of enriching themselves with other people’s money.

That’s the biggest threat of an Obama presidency: the creation of vast new groups of dependent Americans who will comprise an unassailable new coalition that will enjoy iron control of our politics for a generation or more. If you start with newly legalized immigrant voters (with as many as 10 million new Democrats totally beholden to Obama and company) and then add the beneficiaries of government pre-school, the new nursery school teachers, the recipients and administrators of federal health insurance, federal college grants, the businesses who’ll enjoy the $150 billion in promised subsidies for “alternative energy,” the companies and employees of the vast increases in “infra-structure” spending (lots more bridges to nowhere), the non-tax payers who will suddenly receive a $1,000 per household check (under the guise of “refundable tax credit,” and many, many more. ---end copy---

OUR money, our children's debit, sure hope people see it for what it is - and isn't!! BB

Havent you noticed they all will say anything to get elected. Both sides..So who you believe? Might not be who I believe, isnt it great..Its time to put that behind us..After this election I am gonna push for end of the two party system.. Come on has it ever worked, as has the government ever worked..NOT IN MY LIFE TIME..But maybe we can change our kids life instead of just leaving them pile of debt.


I agree, but let's look at O's plan, FAR MORE debt and for far longer.....(do we need/want to pay for child day care??)

http://www.realdemocracy.com/no2party.htm

--copy--For instance, consider two sweeping new entitlements that Obama plans to offer for all Americans – universal (but, he insists, “voluntary”) federally-funded pre-school for all children starting at age three, and a low-cost, heavily subsidized federal health insurance plan for every low or middle income American who wants it.

A President Obama would no doubt promote such proposals in his first year in office and a compliant, heavily-Democratic Congress would approve them promptly—perhaps making the benefits even more generous. This means that before the next election, tens of millions (probably hundreds of millions) of American families will take advantage of “free” pre-kindergarten education (and day care), as well as cheap, subsidized (to the tune of at least $160 billion per year) health insurance. The chances of ever taking away such goodies are nil --- Presidents may come and go, but entitlements are forever. New government give-aways may accomplish nothing constructive but they’re all but impossible to eliminate once they’re up and running.
--snip--Obama’s new entitlements will similarly survive all attempts to eliminate them. If he becomes President we’ll be permanently stuck not just with federal pre-school and a subsidized health insurance guarantee (Obama described it as a “right” in the last debate), but with a $4,000 annual check (a so-called “refundable tax credit”) to all “non-wealthy” college students, a doubling of the Peace Corps, vast increases in AmeriCorps, new billions for “National Service,” a tripling of the foreign aid budget (a specific Obama promise) and much, much more. For those who believe it’s easy to reduce or erase such spending in future administrations, consider the example of Bill Clinton’s cherished “service program” AmeriCorps (which pays its “volunteers” close to $30,000 a year). Gingrich, George W. Bush and countless other conservatives recognize that this is a wasteful, crooked, outrageous effort to use taxpayer money to fund leftist activism, but even when the GOP controlled all levers of government they made no progress in slaughtering the monster.
Aside from the ongoing growth of government and the waste of public money, other changes brought about by President Obama will prove to be unalterable and devastating: in his first year, he will authorize gays serving openly in the military, and hasten the national imposition of homosexual marriage (he’s pledged to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act).

He will also get the chance to appoint at least two, and perhaps as many as four new justices to the Supreme Court of the United States. All legal observers expect Obama’s nominees to embrace an even more activist, leftist view of the Constitution and legal system than Clinton’s appointees, Breyer and Ginzburg. The damage from the remaking of the court could prove incalculable. There is also no chancesof impeaching any Supreme Court Justice (short of a credible murder or rape charge) even if Republicans re-take control in some future Congress. The GOP (led by Jerry Ford as House Minority Leader) tried to gain traction for impeachment efforts to counteract the wildly destructive excesses of the Warren Court but got absolutely nowhere and managed, mostly, to embarrass themselves.
(ARE U READING THIS??)

Finally, and perhaps most fatally, a President Obama will radically revamp our already broken immigration system and permanently remake the country, politically and demographically.

Most conservatives passionately opposed the sweeping immigration reform promoted in 2007 by President Bush, Senator McCain (and, it must be noted, a majority of Republican members of the US Senate) because it granted a complicated path to legalization for some of the millions of illegal immigrants who are already here. Those concerned citizens who celebrated “victory” last year with the collapse of the immigration compromise should prepare themselves for a much more liberal, forgiving reform under Obama (and his supportive Congress) that will make legalization far easier, and will include far more of the illegals as future voters and citizens

If the government hands out goodies to various constituencies, those segments of the population will continue to support the idea of enriching themselves with other people’s money.

That’s the biggest threat of an Obama presidency: the creation of vast new groups of dependent Americans who will comprise an unassailable new coalition that will enjoy iron control of our politics for a generation or more. If you start with newly legalized immigrant voters (with as many as 10 million new Democrats totally beholden to Obama and company) and then add the beneficiaries of government pre-school, the new nursery school teachers, the recipients and administrators of federal health insurance, federal college grants, the businesses who’ll enjoy the $150 billion in promised subsidies for “alternative energy,” the companies and employees of the vast increases in “infra-structure” spending (lots more bridges to nowhere), the non-tax payers who will suddenly receive a $1,000 per household check (under the guise of “refundable tax credit,” and many, many more. ---end copy---

OUR money, our children's debit, sure hope people see it for what it is - and isn't!! BB

No, no straws. And you, are you proud you do this to someone whom you do not know, had accomplished far more than you ever could, and is risking his life to hold an office, that gives you the right to free (negative and lying, gutter) speech??
I didn't to this to your man,(HIS LOOKS<, could say something, but have choose not to) pls don't do it to mine. BB

I am, none running (or rather, made it this far).

So, the republican way of thinking is far better.
As is the choice of men - women and the agendas they promote.

What kills me, is that J.Biden said he didn't think O had the experience to run as president, and that he "would be honored to run with McCain, I think the country would be better off."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDVUPqoowf8

Thanks for asking, BB

Show me a site that is a news reporting site, that can and does hold merit with what they 'report'.

Like the

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/09/business/09leonhardt.html

--copy--John McCain has never pretended that economics was his big issue, and he has never seemed too tied to any one view. Elected to Congress in 1982 as a war hero, he focused on military issues early in his career, all the while providing a reliable vote for tax cuts.

But as his party moved to the right in
the 1990s, he started drifting to the left. By 2001, he was criticizing the Bush administration’s tax cut as a fiscally irresponsible gift to the affluent “at the expense of middle-class Americans who need tax relief.” As the conservatives at the Club for Growth have gleefully pointed out, he started sounding a lot like Ted Kennedy.

Then, with the 2008 Republican primaries drawing nearer, Mr. McCain tacked back. He now favors extending many tax cuts he once opposed, arguing repeal would amount to a tax increase. On the campaign trail, he sometimes sounds no different from Rudy Giuliani or Mitt Romney.

But Mr. McCain is still different from them. Mr. Giuliani and Mr. Romney are the rightful heirs to President Bush’s economic policy.
--snip-- Mr. McCain is neither a Fair Tax Republican nor a Bush Republican. He is more of an Alan Greenspan Republican. And despite the somewhat tortured history of Mr. McCain’s views, he has managed to sketch out an economic platform for 2008 that represents the very beginnings of a Republican response to middle-class anxiety. Together, he and his rivals present Republican primary voters with a real choice.--snip--When you put it all together, you’re left with a picture of Mr. McCain as someone who cares somewhat more about the deficit than his rivals and is more willing to intervene in the economy. ---end copy--

So please, understand, he isn't another Pres. Bush. As he has stated, and as (if you REALLY look at things - and not from a website like you mentioned, but from a NEWS source) it shows. BB

If you are born here, you are an American, no matter what the nationality of your parents.

If you are born abroad, but at least one of your parents is an American, you'll be considered an American, too (there are some exceptions).

But that isn't what we are speaking of, but what is needed to enter into the presidental race.

Vote for McCain, Schwarzenegger says.
---copy--
The Republican governor said anyone who has been a U.S. citizen for at least 20 years -- as he has -- should "absolutely" be able to seek the presidency. A constitutional amendment proposed by Sen. Orrin Hatch, a Utah Republican, would make that possible. --end copy-- BUT NO, not now.

---copy---
how do you know if you are a Republican? Well, I tell you how. If you believe that government should be accountable to the people, not the people to the government, then you are a Republican.

If you believe a person should be treated as an individual, not as a member of an interest group, then you are a Republican.

If you believe your family knows how to spend your money better than the government does, then you are a Republican.

If you believe our educational system should be held accountable for the progress of our children, then you are a Republican.

If you believe this country, not the United Nations, is the best hope for democracy, then you are a Republican.

And, ladies and gentlemen, if you believe that we must be fierce and relentless and terminate terrorism, then you are a Republican.

Now, there's another way you can tell you're a Republican. You have faith in free enterprise, faith in the resourcefulness of the American people and faith in the U.S. economy. And to those critics who are so pessimistic about our economy, I say: Don't be economic girlie-men.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/31/gop.schwarzenegger.transcript/
--end copy--
later, BB

another post I touched on this, slanted and more. Ok, I was trying to be nice and answer some questions. That is off-topic and I'm done responding to it. Thanks, but no thanks tho, BB

T- while U were answering me, I was editing my last response to U, and had added the other items, so I think I had them all covered.

Hey, who said anything about a need to apologize? I too, do not have a GED or h/s diploma, no sweat no foul, no problem. It doesn't make us any less of a voice, or a vote. Warmest Regards, BB